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Consistency is Key. Unfortunately I lost my keys years ago and have been locked out of my house ever since.

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Best hour of my life ever spent on 1am Roblox, compelled to make the fascinating avatars I saw a reality.

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Chat. Fafa is not doing well ngl 😓

Were gonna have to move to a last minute closet cosplay Plan B

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hey its me from art fight uh do you mind if a use the picture you made of Zander as my pfp on here :D it looks wonderful I can't stop looking at it

HELLO OMG YES ABSOLUTELY. IM SO SORRY FOR NOT ANSWERING SOONER. I really gotta check Tumblr more often qwq

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Now it's coming together

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FREAK

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Cosplay plans go crazy

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I LIVE

I return to feed my page an announce I'm obsessed with this freak and WILL be Fafa posting more (you'll see why)

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Newest DNDADS ep spoilers

To think the heart-to-heart he's always wanted from his dad actually being Willy, meaning Willy was more willing to be 'vulnerable' with him then is own dad.

Can this kid go ONE day without catching a Mr.Crocker-F sized L to the dome.

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Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

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I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

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Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

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I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

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Ok you know what, I 100% agree with you and I've been kinda thinking the same way about Hermie's death

Story wise it was devastating but makes sense in the long run, especially because yeah Hermie didn't really have that much going on after goofs besides messing with normal

Tbh I think if Hermie did straight up reject Normal in I think it could go two ways

One would be normal gets upset but gets over it at some point (or at least gets over it on the outside, maybe just add to his pent up emotion problems idk that boys got some emotional issues-)

But I could honestly see his character eventually moving on

or two would be he's dug too deep at this point he feels like he cant move on

Because at first Normal wasn't even really interested in Hermie and it was Hermie who ended up convincing(??) Normal that deep down he was interested and then normal started being more intense to the point that if he was rejected he might have a hard time moving on because, one, he's dug too deep into being committed to having Hermie as his crush/future life partner and two, at this point he is just desperately trying to hold onto any relationship with anyone in the team because he already feels like the others don't really like him

But back to Hermie being killed, I think it was a good move to kill off Hermie- It still is really upsetting, but I understand why he was killed (and I love some good angst in a story) The only part of Hermie being killed that upsets me more is that I heard on tumblr that part of the reason he was killed was because he wasn't Paeden (To which I think means wasn't as liked as Paeden/Paeden was remembered more often then Hermie, idk I don't have patreon and can't listen to the talks-) (But to be fair Paeden did end up playing a bigger role in the story where he was important for the characters to get home, as Hermie was more just a friend tagging along at this point-) But either way it makes me sad that Hermie may have been killed over his likeability as a character, and even though I can understand it, I still feel if that alone was the reason he was killed (I know it wasn't) then I would be very upset-

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I think it's a mix of likability, just cuz I remember the OG dad's would look to see what that vermin was up to every other sentence, and also importance. Paeden had a solid story reason to keep being around even after the 'silly little billy' bit wore off (it never did tbh) Meanwhile Hermie was just a bit from day 1, only story involvement to connect the teens to Goof realm and revive Anthony's true love (scam) The oakworthy was a byproduct, and was the only thing keeping him relevant past Goofs, so him dying for the sake of maintaining the Oakworthy integrity just makes sense Though do keep in mind I'm not up to date on the Teen Talks so there's a chance Anthony at some point just violated our boy with some verbal slaughter but I choose to believe that's not the case and never will be

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yeahh I agree (Also silly Paeden never wears off! I still love him!!)

But yeah, even Hermie's whole canonical creation was to be a joke/bit made by scam likely

It was nice that Hermie did get to stick around for so long (and that his character wasn't just kept as a creepy flasher-)

But I really did enjoy having Hermie with the teens for both the Oakworthy moments (that Anthony said would never work out, but bless Will for never giving up) and also for his silly moments where he would add sassy comments or do drama kid bits that made him very interesting to keep around But even with all that, he was still being forgotten because his bits and sillies were much less frequent then Paeden's and ended up with him being forgotten more often then not I've only seen a few posts where apparently he was compared to Paeden and Anthony saying he didn't like him or something?? Im not fully sure-

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I can understand where the Paeden bits were more enjoyable to keep up on then the suicidal DC drama nerd, especially with the tone and emotions attached to it.

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Yeahhh, silly kid with a funny voice and thinks he's indestructible is much easier to work with then suicidal drama kid-

Also taking into account who the npcs were paired up with, Paeden was another kid being taken care of by the dads like how they would care for any kid, because they clearly had sympathy for him as dads and kinda naturally wanted to keep him safe like how they wanted to keep their own kids safe

But then Hermie was placed with a group of teens as a teen himself where he doesn't need any sort of extra attention or protection because they are all around the same age and each one has their own issue they are wrapped up in, meaning they cant always take the time to focus on Hermie alone

(which would also be very different from how it was done with Paeden, because Hermie isn't a small child being protected by dads, he's a teen hanging out with a group of friends and dealing with teenage drama) Also I'm seeing a lot of tumblr posts theorizing about how Hermie could come back (lots of denial smh, the pain is real-) but I don't think that's ever going to happen honestly-

Especially not after burying him and having a whole moment where everyone gets to say goodbye I feel like the moment that happened it was pretty set in stone that Hermie is dead and there isn't any plan to bring him back- Also I was really worried when they went to henry to ask him to bring Hermie back that we were going to get a Hermie zombie (like when Doug was brought back) and I honestly really didn't want it to go that way-

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I was also thinking about it and I think it would only be used for some narsty shit The thought I had was kinda wild and I'd be insane if I actually heard it happen, which is since Bear'ry saw and knows what happened, and if Bear'ry is still somehow in contact with Willy (doubtful) then maybe Willy would drag out some possessed Hermie zombie to fuck with them? Cuz he's clearly not beyond mentally ruining an actual child for gain, both with Ron, the Kiddads, and Scary So what'd stop the support from supporting his team? Stop the one kid keeping the Doodler grounded because of his connection? Again, doubt it'd ever happen, but also depending on the vibe they go into facing against Willy again there is a world where it could be a thing That would fuck Normal up horribly (me Im Normal) CUZ LIKE Bear'ry can make those homunculus And do some puppeting shit So like, imagine an Evil Hermie that just torments the teens with grief and regret for their actions

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AUGHH I HATW BARRY OAK SO MUCH, I HATE THAT HES HERE AND THAT HES WITH HENRY NOW-

ALSO I HONESTLY DON'T THINK NORMAL COULD HANDLE THAT-

DUDE IS ALREADY GOING THROUGH SO MUCH RIGHT NOW-

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HES WITH BEARY BECAUSE HENRY HAS REGRESSED. HE LOST HIS CHILDHOOD, RUINED HIS CHILDRENS CHILDHOOD, AND HIS CHILDREN DONT WANT TO BE AROUND HIM SO HES GOING BACK TO CONNECT TO HIS 'ROOTS' EVEN THOUGH ITS TOO LATE AND HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO MOVE ON BEVAUSE HE STILL NEVER GOT THE VALITATION HE WANTED SO BADLY NORMAL IS ON THE SAME PATH TO END UP JUST LIKE HENRY HE LOST HIS CHILDHOOD TO CODE PURPLE/THE DOODLER, HES RUINING HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO HIM, AND ALL HE WANTS IS THE VALIDATION FROM HIS DAD THAT HE'LL NEVER GET.

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AUGHHH GODDD THE ANGST IS TOO REAL!! NORMAL OAK IS SO TRAGIC- HE MAKES ME SO UPSET DAWG-

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THE TEENS ARE ALL SLOWLY PROGRESSING TO BE IN THE SAME CYCLE AS THEIR FAMILY LINE, AND NOBODY IS BREAKING THE CYCLE

THE HISTORY BOOKS ON THE SHELF

ARE ALWAYS REPEATING THEIR SEEELVES

Linc - Slowly losing touch with himself and his own emotions because he doesn't know how to process his own grief and the pit that's deepening inside of him. Substituting it with helping his friends. (Grant's the same expect his outlet is Violence.) Which even then Linc is slowly getting more numb to being violent.

Scary - Emotionally detaching herself from her father figure to avoid feeling the pain of rejection and abandonment she's so use to receiving from them, and by the time she comes around to being able to reconcile herself it's too late. (Terry Jr with Ron by distancing himself, both TJ and Ron feeling the flinch reaction to expect pain from getting attached to a father figure.)

Taylor - Prioritizing a lack of conflict over an actual bond, being more friends then family and in the end missing what the other want each other to be there for and unable to get any of that time back. Related to a stranger that you hate for not being there but can't bring yourself to stop loving (the entire close family)

Normal - Losing your childhood to some unforeseen magical event after being robbed of any positive influence due to your 'lackluster' ability to be seen as of 'use.' And despite trying his best to be a breaker beacon of happiness to fill the void he's missing it can't cover the burning anger that keeps the family at arms length of eachother.

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Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[normally-cool]

Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

[emptycup16]

I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

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Ok you know what, I 100% agree with you and I've been kinda thinking the same way about Hermie's death

Story wise it was devastating but makes sense in the long run, especially because yeah Hermie didn't really have that much going on after goofs besides messing with normal

Tbh I think if Hermie did straight up reject Normal in I think it could go two ways

One would be normal gets upset but gets over it at some point (or at least gets over it on the outside, maybe just add to his pent up emotion problems idk that boys got some emotional issues-)

But I could honestly see his character eventually moving on

or two would be he's dug too deep at this point he feels like he cant move on

Because at first Normal wasn't even really interested in Hermie and it was Hermie who ended up convincing(??) Normal that deep down he was interested and then normal started being more intense to the point that if he was rejected he might have a hard time moving on because, one, he's dug too deep into being committed to having Hermie as his crush/future life partner and two, at this point he is just desperately trying to hold onto any relationship with anyone in the team because he already feels like the others don't really like him

But back to Hermie being killed, I think it was a good move to kill off Hermie- It still is really upsetting, but I understand why he was killed (and I love some good angst in a story) The only part of Hermie being killed that upsets me more is that I heard on tumblr that part of the reason he was killed was because he wasn't Paeden (To which I think means wasn't as liked as Paeden/Paeden was remembered more often then Hermie, idk I don't have patreon and can't listen to the talks-) (But to be fair Paeden did end up playing a bigger role in the story where he was important for the characters to get home, as Hermie was more just a friend tagging along at this point-) But either way it makes me sad that Hermie may have been killed over his likeability as a character, and even though I can understand it, I still feel if that alone was the reason he was killed (I know it wasn't) then I would be very upset-

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I think it's a mix of likability, just cuz I remember the OG dad's would look to see what that vermin was up to every other sentence, and also importance. Paeden had a solid story reason to keep being around even after the 'silly little billy' bit wore off (it never did tbh) Meanwhile Hermie was just a bit from day 1, only story involvement to connect the teens to Goof realm and revive Anthony's true love (scam) The oakworthy was a byproduct, and was the only thing keeping him relevant past Goofs, so him dying for the sake of maintaining the Oakworthy integrity just makes sense Though do keep in mind I'm not up to date on the Teen Talks so there's a chance Anthony at some point just violated our boy with some verbal slaughter but I choose to believe that's not the case and never will be

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yeahh I agree (Also silly Paeden never wears off! I still love him!!)

But yeah, even Hermie's whole canonical creation was to be a joke/bit made by scam likely

It was nice that Hermie did get to stick around for so long (and that his character wasn't just kept as a creepy flasher-)

But I really did enjoy having Hermie with the teens for both the Oakworthy moments (that Anthony said would never work out, but bless Will for never giving up) and also for his silly moments where he would add sassy comments or do drama kid bits that made him very interesting to keep around But even with all that, he was still being forgotten because his bits and sillies were much less frequent then Paeden's and ended up with him being forgotten more often then not I've only seen a few posts where apparently he was compared to Paeden and Anthony saying he didn't like him or something?? Im not fully sure-

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I can understand where the Paeden bits were more enjoyable to keep up on then the suicidal DC drama nerd, especially with the tone and emotions attached to it.

[normally-cool]

Yeahhh, silly kid with a funny voice and thinks he's indestructible is much easier to work with then suicidal drama kid-

Also taking into account who the npcs were paired up with, Paeden was another kid being taken care of by the dads like how they would care for any kid, because they clearly had sympathy for him as dads and kinda naturally wanted to keep him safe like how they wanted to keep their own kids safe

But then Hermie was placed with a group of teens as a teen himself where he doesn't need any sort of extra attention or protection because they are all around the same age and each one has their own issue they are wrapped up in, meaning they cant always take the time to focus on Hermie alone

(which would also be very different from how it was done with Paeden, because Hermie isn't a small child being protected by dads, he's a teen hanging out with a group of friends and dealing with teenage drama) Also I'm seeing a lot of tumblr posts theorizing about how Hermie could come back (lots of denial smh, the pain is real-) but I don't think that's ever going to happen honestly-

Especially not after burying him and having a whole moment where everyone gets to say goodbye I feel like the moment that happened it was pretty set in stone that Hermie is dead and there isn't any plan to bring him back- Also I was really worried when they went to henry to ask him to bring Hermie back that we were going to get a Hermie zombie (like when Doug was brought back) and I honestly really didn't want it to go that way-

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I was also thinking about it and I think it would only be used for some narsty shit The thought I had was kinda wild and I'd be insane if I actually heard it happen, which is since Bear'ry saw and knows what happened, and if Bear'ry is still somehow in contact with Willy (doubtful) then maybe Willy would drag out some possessed Hermie zombie to fuck with them? Cuz he's clearly not beyond mentally ruining an actual child for gain, both with Ron, the Kiddads, and Scary So what'd stop the support from supporting his team? Stop the one kid keeping the Doodler grounded because of his connection? Again, doubt it'd ever happen, but also depending on the vibe they go into facing against Willy again there is a world where it could be a thing That would fuck Normal up horribly (me Im Normal) CUZ LIKE Bear'ry can make those homunculus And do some puppeting shit So like, imagine an Evil Hermie that just torments the teens with grief and regret for their actions

[normally-cool]

AUGHH I HATW BARRY OAK SO MUCH, I HATE THAT HES HERE AND THAT HES WITH HENRY NOW-

ALSO I HONESTLY DON'T THINK NORMAL COULD HANDLE THAT-

DUDE IS ALREADY GOING THROUGH SO MUCH RIGHT NOW-

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HES WITH BEARY BECAUSE HENRY HAS REGRESSED. HE LOST HIS CHILDHOOD, RUINED HIS CHILDRENS CHILDHOOD, AND HIS CHILDREN DONT WANT TO BE AROUND HIM SO HES GOING BACK TO CONNECT TO HIS 'ROOTS' EVEN THOUGH ITS TOO LATE AND HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO MOVE ON BEVAUSE HE STILL NEVER GOT THE VALITATION HE WANTED SO BADLY NORMAL IS ON THE SAME PATH TO END UP JUST LIKE HENRY HE LOST HIS CHILDHOOD TO CODE PURPLE/THE DOODLER, HES RUINING HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO HIM, AND ALL HE WANTS IS THE VALIDATION FROM HIS DAD THAT HE'LL NEVER GET.

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Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[normally-cool]

Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

[emptycup16]

I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

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Ok you know what, I 100% agree with you and I've been kinda thinking the same way about Hermie's death

Story wise it was devastating but makes sense in the long run, especially because yeah Hermie didn't really have that much going on after goofs besides messing with normal

Tbh I think if Hermie did straight up reject Normal in I think it could go two ways

One would be normal gets upset but gets over it at some point (or at least gets over it on the outside, maybe just add to his pent up emotion problems idk that boys got some emotional issues-)

But I could honestly see his character eventually moving on

or two would be he's dug too deep at this point he feels like he cant move on

Because at first Normal wasn't even really interested in Hermie and it was Hermie who ended up convincing(??) Normal that deep down he was interested and then normal started being more intense to the point that if he was rejected he might have a hard time moving on because, one, he's dug too deep into being committed to having Hermie as his crush/future life partner and two, at this point he is just desperately trying to hold onto any relationship with anyone in the team because he already feels like the others don't really like him

But back to Hermie being killed, I think it was a good move to kill off Hermie- It still is really upsetting, but I understand why he was killed (and I love some good angst in a story) The only part of Hermie being killed that upsets me more is that I heard on tumblr that part of the reason he was killed was because he wasn't Paeden (To which I think means wasn't as liked as Paeden/Paeden was remembered more often then Hermie, idk I don't have patreon and can't listen to the talks-) (But to be fair Paeden did end up playing a bigger role in the story where he was important for the characters to get home, as Hermie was more just a friend tagging along at this point-) But either way it makes me sad that Hermie may have been killed over his likeability as a character, and even though I can understand it, I still feel if that alone was the reason he was killed (I know it wasn't) then I would be very upset-

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I think it's a mix of likability, just cuz I remember the OG dad's would look to see what that vermin was up to every other sentence, and also importance. Paeden had a solid story reason to keep being around even after the 'silly little billy' bit wore off (it never did tbh) Meanwhile Hermie was just a bit from day 1, only story involvement to connect the teens to Goof realm and revive Anthony's true love (scam) The oakworthy was a byproduct, and was the only thing keeping him relevant past Goofs, so him dying for the sake of maintaining the Oakworthy integrity just makes sense Though do keep in mind I'm not up to date on the Teen Talks so there's a chance Anthony at some point just violated our boy with some verbal slaughter but I choose to believe that's not the case and never will be

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yeahh I agree (Also silly Paeden never wears off! I still love him!!)

But yeah, even Hermie's whole canonical creation was to be a joke/bit made by scam likely

It was nice that Hermie did get to stick around for so long (and that his character wasn't just kept as a creepy flasher-)

But I really did enjoy having Hermie with the teens for both the Oakworthy moments (that Anthony said would never work out, but bless Will for never giving up) and also for his silly moments where he would add sassy comments or do drama kid bits that made him very interesting to keep around But even with all that, he was still being forgotten because his bits and sillies were much less frequent then Paeden's and ended up with him being forgotten more often then not I've only seen a few posts where apparently he was compared to Paeden and Anthony saying he didn't like him or something?? Im not fully sure-

[emptycup16]

I can understand where the Paeden bits were more enjoyable to keep up on then the suicidal DC drama nerd, especially with the tone and emotions attached to it.

[normally-cool]

Yeahhh, silly kid with a funny voice and thinks he's indestructible is much easier to work with then suicidal drama kid-

Also taking into account who the npcs were paired up with, Paeden was another kid being taken care of by the dads like how they would care for any kid, because they clearly had sympathy for him as dads and kinda naturally wanted to keep him safe like how they wanted to keep their own kids safe

But then Hermie was placed with a group of teens as a teen himself where he doesn't need any sort of extra attention or protection because they are all around the same age and each one has their own issue they are wrapped up in, meaning they cant always take the time to focus on Hermie alone

(which would also be very different from how it was done with Paeden, because Hermie isn't a small child being protected by dads, he's a teen hanging out with a group of friends and dealing with teenage drama) Also I'm seeing a lot of tumblr posts theorizing about how Hermie could come back (lots of denial smh, the pain is real-) but I don't think that's ever going to happen honestly-

Especially not after burying him and having a whole moment where everyone gets to say goodbye I feel like the moment that happened it was pretty set in stone that Hermie is dead and there isn't any plan to bring him back- Also I was really worried when they went to henry to ask him to bring Hermie back that we were going to get a Hermie zombie (like when Doug was brought back) and I honestly really didn't want it to go that way-

[emptycup16]

I was also thinking about it and I think it would only be used for some narsty shit The thought I had was kinda wild and I'd be insane if I actually heard it happen, which is since Bear'ry saw and knows what happened, and if Bear'ry is still somehow in contact with Willy (doubtful) then maybe Willy would drag out some possessed Hermie zombie to fuck with them? Cuz he's clearly not beyond mentally ruining an actual child for gain, both with Ron, the Kiddads, and Scary So what'd stop the support from supporting his team? Stop the one kid keeping the Doodler grounded because of his connection? Again, doubt it'd ever happen, but also depending on the vibe they go into facing against Willy again there is a world where it could be a thing That would fuck Normal up horribly (me Im Normal) CUZ LIKE Bear'ry can make those homunculus And do some puppeting shit So like, imagine an Evil Hermie that just torments the teens with grief and regret for their actions

[normally-cool]

Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[normally-cool]

Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

[emptycup16]

I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

[normally-cool]

Ok you know what, I 100% agree with you and I've been kinda thinking the same way about Hermie's death

Story wise it was devastating but makes sense in the long run, especially because yeah Hermie didn't really have that much going on after goofs besides messing with normal

Tbh I think if Hermie did straight up reject Normal in I think it could go two ways

One would be normal gets upset but gets over it at some point (or at least gets over it on the outside, maybe just add to his pent up emotion problems idk that boys got some emotional issues-)

But I could honestly see his character eventually moving on

or two would be he's dug too deep at this point he feels like he cant move on

Because at first Normal wasn't even really interested in Hermie and it was Hermie who ended up convincing(??) Normal that deep down he was interested and then normal started being more intense to the point that if he was rejected he might have a hard time moving on because, one, he's dug too deep into being committed to having Hermie as his crush/future life partner and two, at this point he is just desperately trying to hold onto any relationship with anyone in the team because he already feels like the others don't really like him

But back to Hermie being killed, I think it was a good move to kill off Hermie- It still is really upsetting, but I understand why he was killed (and I love some good angst in a story) The only part of Hermie being killed that upsets me more is that I heard on tumblr that part of the reason he was killed was because he wasn't Paeden (To which I think means wasn't as liked as Paeden/Paeden was remembered more often then Hermie, idk I don't have patreon and can't listen to the talks-) (But to be fair Paeden did end up playing a bigger role in the story where he was important for the characters to get home, as Hermie was more just a friend tagging along at this point-) But either way it makes me sad that Hermie may have been killed over his likeability as a character, and even though I can understand it, I still feel if that alone was the reason he was killed (I know it wasn't) then I would be very upset-

[emptycup16]

I think it's a mix of likability, just cuz I remember the OG dad's would look to see what that vermin was up to every other sentence, and also importance. Paeden had a solid story reason to keep being around even after the 'silly little billy' bit wore off (it never did tbh) Meanwhile Hermie was just a bit from day 1, only story involvement to connect the teens to Goof realm and revive Anthony's true love (scam) The oakworthy was a byproduct, and was the only thing keeping him relevant past Goofs, so him dying for the sake of maintaining the Oakworthy integrity just makes sense Though do keep in mind I'm not up to date on the Teen Talks so there's a chance Anthony at some point just violated our boy with some verbal slaughter but I choose to believe that's not the case and never will be

[normally-cool]

yeahh I agree (Also silly Paeden never wears off! I still love him!!)

But yeah, even Hermie's whole canonical creation was to be a joke/bit made by scam likely

It was nice that Hermie did get to stick around for so long (and that his character wasn't just kept as a creepy flasher-)

But I really did enjoy having Hermie with the teens for both the Oakworthy moments (that Anthony said would never work out, but bless Will for never giving up) and also for his silly moments where he would add sassy comments or do drama kid bits that made him very interesting to keep around But even with all that, he was still being forgotten because his bits and sillies were much less frequent then Paeden's and ended up with him being forgotten more often then not I've only seen a few posts where apparently he was compared to Paeden and Anthony saying he didn't like him or something?? Im not fully sure-

[emptycup16]

I can understand where the Paeden bits were more enjoyable to keep up on then the suicidal DC drama nerd, especially with the tone and emotions attached to it.

[normally-cool]

Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[normally-cool]

Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

[emptycup16]

I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

[normally-cool]

Ok you know what, I 100% agree with you and I've been kinda thinking the same way about Hermie's death

Story wise it was devastating but makes sense in the long run, especially because yeah Hermie didn't really have that much going on after goofs besides messing with normal

Tbh I think if Hermie did straight up reject Normal in I think it could go two ways

One would be normal gets upset but gets over it at some point (or at least gets over it on the outside, maybe just add to his pent up emotion problems idk that boys got some emotional issues-)

But I could honestly see his character eventually moving on

or two would be he's dug too deep at this point he feels like he cant move on

Because at first Normal wasn't even really interested in Hermie and it was Hermie who ended up convincing(??) Normal that deep down he was interested and then normal started being more intense to the point that if he was rejected he might have a hard time moving on because, one, he's dug too deep into being committed to having Hermie as his crush/future life partner and two, at this point he is just desperately trying to hold onto any relationship with anyone in the team because he already feels like the others don't really like him

But back to Hermie being killed, I think it was a good move to kill off Hermie- It still is really upsetting, but I understand why he was killed (and I love some good angst in a story) The only part of Hermie being killed that upsets me more is that I heard on tumblr that part of the reason he was killed was because he wasn't Paeden (To which I think means wasn't as liked as Paeden/Paeden was remembered more often then Hermie, idk I don't have patreon and can't listen to the talks-) (But to be fair Paeden did end up playing a bigger role in the story where he was important for the characters to get home, as Hermie was more just a friend tagging along at this point-) But either way it makes me sad that Hermie may have been killed over his likeability as a character, and even though I can understand it, I still feel if that alone was the reason he was killed (I know it wasn't) then I would be very upset-

[emptycup16]

I think it's a mix of likability, just cuz I remember the OG dad's would look to see what that vermin was up to every other sentence, and also importance. Paeden had a solid story reason to keep being around even after the 'silly little billy' bit wore off (it never did tbh) Meanwhile Hermie was just a bit from day 1, only story involvement to connect the teens to Goof realm and revive Anthony's true love (scam) The oakworthy was a byproduct, and was the only thing keeping him relevant past Goofs, so him dying for the sake of maintaining the Oakworthy integrity just makes sense Though do keep in mind I'm not up to date on the Teen Talks so there's a chance Anthony at some point just violated our boy with some verbal slaughter but I choose to believe that's not the case and never will be

[normally-cool]

Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[normally-cool]

Lost his autism costume, his life (twice), his crush, his rat-stache, and got absolutely destroyed all in one episode :'( LET THIS BOY HAVE HIS AUTISM BACK!! D":

[emptycup16]

I'm gonna hot take rq cuz I've been reflecting

I think Hermie dying like that was best case scenario for how the thread was currently going

NOW HEAR ME OUT

Is it still gutwrenching? Yes BUT Think about it from a story level The Oakworthy relationship is built off of being doomed by the narrative. Hermie was slowly losing charm and relevance with each episode he was being forgotten because they finished with Goof realm stuff so all that would be left is the doomed narrative Right before Normal is about to have his turn to deal with his arc its immediately meaning he has to start handling the Oakworthy situation, and if Hermie was there in the moment it'd be first and that would go 1 of 2 ways Either they get together or they don't, and I mean sure they can drag it out with hrms and hahs but Anthony don't got the patience for that If they get together then Normal gets to go into the Oak arc with a high head and lover on his side? Way out of tone for the shitfest that was planned. If they don't but Hermie still just sticks around cuz Normal can't get over him? Has the right effect I guess? But it's too tense and just sorta bogs stuff They wouldn't just go 'you won't date Normal? Well then L go back home smh' So best case? Dramatic unrequited love where they both knew they loved each other but will never have the chance to say it directly

And that is why Hermie dying was best case scenario for the story. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

[normally-cool]

Did Normal's mascot costume get burned in ep. 46??

(spoilers below btw-)

I know he was wearing it in the start of the episode where they do the Stampler and Close family flashbacks, because at the start when he gets out of the ambulance he took the mascot head off and there was the whole moment about how he was obviously crying inside the costume

And then I think when Taylor got out of the ring but Normal was stuck inside with Abraham Lincoln and the Marine he put the mascot costume head back on to try and be a distraction, only to get the life beaten out of him and burned-

Then at the end it was said that his clothes were incinerated or something (i don't remember the exact phrasing of what happened-)

But does that mean that his teenie costume was also incinerated?

[emptycup16]

I think the costume is gone but the exchange is not being fried to hell from the magma fighting ring

[emptycup16]

I'm coming out from under my rock to let every Hermie fan that listened the new episode something I've been thinking about ever since which is that 'JK by Crywank' is THE theme for the him.

[zanothy]

Hello tumblr uh I never use tumblr but im very new to dndads and my friends are getting me into it

ive taken it upon myself to do stupid recaps of what I remember of the episodes so I can look back and remember it and my friends think it’s funny enough for me to post so here is a recap (from memory) of dndads season 1 episodes 1-10

4 cool dads going to a soccer game, black out and are now in fuckass land, kids are gone, wtf 3 dudes cool fight, GLENN RUNS OVER THEM WITH A CAR, dude is fucking terrified, finds this other guy and now knows where their kids are, find a cool inn and a dragon too I guess, make a deal with a woman I guess, sleep, wake up, ditch, bring dragon with them, kill dragons kid, find dragon other kid, make weird deal or smth idfk, charleston chews, goes to find Henry’s kids, what the fuck they have been taken by the lord of chaos, sex pit, fighting pit, they get naked and fight for the lord of chaos to prove themselves or smth, the lord of chaos is just lark and sparrow, sex pit, they get taken into a dungeon or something, sex pit, they fight in this dungeon or whatever, Henry’s a fucking wolf now, doodler!!!!!!, uhhh snake person or something, oh cool their clothes are back, they also get cool items, bag of beans, HOLY FUCK A PYRAMID????, cern, in a car with the kids, sparrow I think tweaks out oh fuck demon voice, kids gone, panic, dad huddle without cern, lizardboy scales mcstuffin, they go camping, shared group dream with same demon voice, Ron shits himself, drive to find Glenn’s kid in morning, found Glenn’s son, Henry disapproves of Glenn’s parenting style, so does darryl now, glenn son has curse, cool buff woman, drug flowers, SCAM LIKELY?, hotboxed a fucking building with drug flowers, got cool guitar axe thing, Nick didn’t have a curse, battle of the bands thing, really gay stuff happened, the best recital of silent night, Ron throws a pair of pants in the crowd, glenn and Nick dipped, scam likely again, children fighting, 8 year old paeden, anger in a bar because the dads found glenn, talking stick but it’s a bone, Nick tweaks out and also does demon voice thing, what the fuck nick is gone now, only spinach cheese dip, check please!!!!!!,

that is all thank you tumblr, I will update this for each episode I watch but I am also insane and a major procrastinator so this will take a while

here is glenn art if you read all that I love him a lot