Your relationship to Gold and Glory.
I noticed your Free Company has ties to the Gold and Glory FC and their event listings. In that case, you may want to take the time to read this: https://twitter.com/CagiCajagi/status/1373119809471324163 It contains a few allegations to the FCs leaderships practice of trying to police other FCs, such as threatening to ban entire FCs from participating in their events if they do not remove members -they- find problematic, and shady practices like banning people for questioning their authority.
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I am about to say a lot to say nothing and disappoint you, preemptive apologies for not wading into this. Detailed lack of commitment below the cut.
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Good evening everyone, Aedwen/Lepus here. FC lead of Gold and Glory. Please allow me to make one thing clear. Every ban decision from gold and glory, is done by me, and me alone. No one else has authority to ban. Aegir. Is. Not. An. Officer. He is an event coordinator. That means, he coordinates events, and if he needs an officer he goes to me. Now. Second. I believe in respecting an individuals privacy. Anyone who has been in a discord where I banned someone, knows I do not go around throwing the details to the wind to get others rallied against them. If I remove someone, I move on. I recognize, people may have their distastes in being kicked, or removed from a group. It can cause them to be upset. This is a valid feeling to have.
However, there is a limit involved. So I apologize, that today, we are not posting an event info or piece of art. Today, I will be going over some allegations that individuals whom were removed are trying to use against us, and having to provide names and context.
This. Is factually incorrect. The individual in question, is Ashe, leader of the Roses’ FC. Ashe was not banned for not banning Ciri. Ashe was removed from G&G events due to two reasons. 1. Accusations of pedophilic reddit moderation. 2. Her FC failing to abide by the rules set forth when I ruled on the above. For context.
This was the ruling I gave, following those accusations against Ashe which could not be -proven- sufficiently for my liking, or dismissed either. Their FCs participation in any G&G event, was contingent upon the other co-hosts comfort.
We did not need to wait long for this to become an issue. Not long after, I was informed of the repeated actions of one cirina malqir. From the simple observation of the logs, and the talk with ashe, it was determined Cerina was above all else, not healthy to be present in blitzball and she was removed for the safety of other blitzball members.
At this same time, Ashe’s FC was told they could attend an event, but not bring Ashe with. To this, they declared and argued they would bring them anyways. For this reason, I decided G&G would not be doing any events with roses. For that reason, I removed Ashe temporarily to not provide the appearance of us coordinating, and because their accusations were still, again. Not proven without a doubt, or disproven without a doubt.
Ashe was not removed for not kicking Ciri. At the time, Ciri was not in Ashe’s FC. This narrative, is false.
After this, I had assumed, Ashe would wait until after the next season before speaking to me. I was wrong. Amidst busy lives, messages were not responded to where Ashe asked for entrance. When told they would not be allowed in for the season, they chose to sneak in.
You knew this Cagi. You yourself, said there was proper reason given for their removal.
Yes Cagi. You knew someone whom had been banned, and was evading our ban, was in blitzball. You knew what character they were, and you said nothing. As a referee, someone who helped make blitzball happen, you kept quiet.
You knowingly went behind our back and betrayed our trust. That is more than enough reason to remove you.
Again. This is false. No one has ever been banned just because their ‘teams didn’t like them’.
Don Coconero is based off Don Corneo from ff7. We thought the name was not too subtle for it to be missed. Secondly. You are discussing monetarist RP in Ul’dah. No one, is at any time, forced into any RP by G&G. If someone does not like RPing goofy monetarists who fall on their face and take bribes, you are not being forced to do so.
When I remove someone and ban them, I am not required to respond to their every whim Cagi. I work third shift. I work ten hour nights. If I miss and forget something, it happens. But no one is -owed- my time. I make it available out of a belief it is important to communicate. But if you have shown to me, a duplicitous nature, petty dealings, and assholery, I am not required to waste my time.
G&G is not the community. We do not go around demanding people remove others from their events. You were banned from our events. Please stop making it out like we’re trying to witch hunt you.
We chose to grow from that incident, to become pro-active. We terminated that individuals membership when it was clear who they really were. I assumed responsibility for the FC, and have been leading it since. Ashe was removed over concerns, and their behavior. Cirina was removed for her behavior. You were removed for your behavior.
You chose to try to take part in cancel culture, without logs, only words, because you knew the logs are not on your side. You know, your behavior was inappropriate. You willingly knew, you misrepresented events in your post. You waited until blitzball started, to try and cause the most issue within our community.
Please move on with your time in ff14, and find joy in a different group or community. But you are not welcome at anything gold and glory hosts.
- Edit. I was told some logs were squashed. Here is a doc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfqjcfqJE5SncQs9bCyg0fXxC-EnRUQQUuf7kwTqidE/edit?usp=sharing I recommend 150% for reading. They are in the order they appear.
Hey look, more stuff.
I wake up this morning to @for-gold-and-glory pretty much proving the aforementioned points by myself and Cagi yesterday. There’s big talk about doing what’s right by the community and keeping people safe and this or that, but it all boils down to instead keeping people othered and being given a target to bandwagon and look down on, accuracy and evidence be damned.
Aedwen brings up past accusations as a “true” reason for removing me from collaborations and events, but nothing else to provide an accurate image. She could have mentioned how any issues with Reddit came up long after I closed my account. She could have mentioned how despite accusations on Reddit existing in the first place, a long-gone purge of the site provided no actual evidence beyond hearsay. She could have mentioned how she spoke to someone completely removed from the Roses at the time who explained the situation as well and vouched for my own discussion with her. She could have mentioned how Roses and Gold & Glory worked together for the past year or so with no issues and positive interaction. But she didn’t. Because like everyone else involved in this situation, it’s much easier to just paint someone with a certain brush and slander them across the internet.
Aedwen and Gold & Glory are well aware that, though I took part moderating a hentai subreddit aimed at petite women (surprise from the brothel FC owner, I know), I divested myself of the community when it began taking part in questionably legal, potentially-lolicon content and a lack of proper moderation from others. Despite knowing this two years ago, and knowing it now, G&G is clearly content with perpetuating hearsay on its own rather than providing the community with the full picture.
Despite all of this, and despite the consistent “safe for the community” messaging, Gold & Glory is content to perpetuate all of the above while simultaneously also harboring at least one individual in their Blitzball event with a nearly two-decade long history of stalking and harassment, including attacking two previous FC leaders. One of which to the point she encouraged involving law enforcement after speaking with the individual personally. So no, Gold & Glory has no interest in what’s best for the community, and plenty of interest in making sure whoever’s “in” is in, and whoever’s out is, well…
You’re really pathetic, all three of you. Your ban was never made public much less discussed until you began spamming your twitter post across tumblr and in-game.
That’s right, they’re messaging people in game, asking them to check out the twitter post. That’s harassment, by the way.
Last year Ashe showed up at a blitzball party and just stood on the lawn, staring at people. She was asked to leave, as she was making others uncomfortable. And she didn’t, she remained there for hours.
You’ve absolutely flooded Aegir’s DMs with threats and nonsense. And the three of you have snuck into events on alts just to cause havoc.
You’re a stalker and a creep and you should absolutely be ashamed of yourselves. I saw you at the opening ceremony on Friday night. Why come at all? There were plenty of RP events going on at the time that you could have enjoyed. It’s because you’re an absolute creep. Just truly, you’re vile.
As for defending your honor. Any doubt that you were a pedophile left my mind when I read the log Lepus posted last night, in which your own defender, Cagi, says “psychology in context is important, and someone with those desires needs help, not hatred.”
How dare you tell my friends they must help a pedophile. That they are not allowed to curate who they are exposed to online.
I suggest you work on actual self improvement, then maybe people will want to be around you.
Hey look, more stuff. The only reason I’m even replying to this is because, as Bragi Odinson is also a fellow member of @for-gold-and-glory, they continue to show further evidence of their FC’s harassment and unfounded attacks to keep people othered and “outside”.
Last year Ashe showed up at a blitzball party and just stood on the lawn, staring at people. She was asked to leave, as she was making others uncomfortable. And she didn’t, she remained there for hours.
“Last year, Ashe attended a Blitzball rave for her own ex-team, the Koban Crushers, because that’s what teammates and fans do–support their team.” That’s what that was meant to say, right? And yes, I was asked to leave, despite doing nothing but talking with ex-teammates and having a drink. I won’t deny standing outside the house… off the lawn…away from the property, either. To which I proceeded to tab out for the evening. But telling the truth wouldn’t have made me look bad enough, right?
You’ve absolutely flooded Aegir’s DMs with threats and nonsense.
“You’ve absolutely flooded Aegir’s DMs with requests to please get in touch and stop ghosting you”. That was that one, right?
All those “threats”? Yeah, I did message him a lot. Literally months apart.
I saw you at the opening ceremony on Friday night. Why come at all? There were plenty of RP events going on at the time that you could have enjoyed. It’s because you’re an absolute creep. Just truly, you’re vile.
The opening ceremony where I was in gold & blue, and waving glowsticks, and talking to the people beside me, and shouting the Crushers’ slogan in turn with other fans? That opening ceremony? Couldn’t possibly be because I enjoy the event despite your FC’s involvement, and still had fond memories of taking part, and still enjoy Ashe’s old team.
As for whatever Aedwen and Cagi talked about, I have no idea. I’ve never spoken to Cagi about previous slams until this blew up again. I made my point regarding that in my last post.
But again, this isn’t about me, it’s not about “demanding” RP. This about what a clique Gold & Glory has become and how they treat any player somehow deemed “unworthy” of the massive control they have over a large part of the community, and every post in these notes by one of their members is making it clear why Cagi finally reached the end of their rope and why I felt the need to contribute.
I’ve never spoken to you in my life, Bragi, not unless it was on an alt of yours I’m unaware of. But despite this you’ve been content so spend this entire thread being hateful, abusive, and outright lying about people’s behavior to further G&G’s agenda. Thanks for proving our point entirely.
I was on your team, you moron.
@braggaman It’s cool to defend your friends. But don’t stoop, man, don’t stoop.
@ Anyone else. If any folks are even looking at this, Googling their names finds plenty of warnings and other shit posted about Ashe Zahra and Cirina Malqir from different sources. And no, this is not just about Cagi/Eses Fafa or Ashe Zahra, because one of the screenshots is a “Cirina M.” messaging random people about this current call out in game. They can’t claim individuality on this. These three are all together on this table. Review evidence, and draw your own conclusions about how honest their claims here are.
@for-gold-and-glory Y’all do amazing events. Keep up the good work. Stop feeding the trolls. They’re just going to keep coming back and dragging this out. I think Lepus dropped the evidence that was needed already. Cagi helped someone evade a ban and broke trust, Ashe tried to evade a ban that looks like it was initially just for a season and was a dick about it, and Cirina was banned for stirring other shit. Not sure if you know, but you can send tickets to the GMs any time they show up and refuse to leave. Enough complaints from enough players and they’ll get removed from the game. If I make your events, you will have my axe. @ anonymous, Cagi, and Ashe, and whoever Not cool to drag up past shit that has been passed around already to try and excuse your own fault. You’re just using any low blow you can think of. Deflection from you being wrong to something they did wrong does not make you right. Fuck, if I read the logs right, the bans were not even permanent until you kept being dicks. So you being banned is your own fault. And it proves they learned their lesson about disassociating with problem people. I’m not responding again. I used an instant made account because I’m throwing my two cents then I am going to go back to Raiding, RP, making my Blitzball games, and will likely not be opening Tumblr again. You’re free to try to refute me, or you can let it go, stop dragging this out, and move on. For both sides, this isn’t worth the further negativity you’ll get if you keep going.
Peace.