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@listerlvrr
hiii , im charlie / lis !! i write iwbft fanfiction on ao3 (and occasionally other fandoms)
feel free to dm me, send me asks about anything either here or my other account @catboylister !! i love talking to ppl :3
ive recently transferred all my fics to a new account cos like why not , so here it is !!
cant wait to share more with you guys eeee
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Louise visits Lister in the hospital after the Kent Incident.
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Lister wakes up in the hospital after the river incident.
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
🔞 On typical Tuesday nights, Jimmy and Lister find themselves in either of their rooms, with a shitty romcom playing on TV until they fall asleep. Typical Tuesday nights do not end with Lister on his knees, giving head like his life depends on it, but here is.
hi iwbftblr i am going to yap about when/why i think listers addiction starts because i think about it a lot
cw for disscussions of alcoholism (obviously) but also sa and poverty and basically anything lister goes through at all. bro is living ROUGH
i don't believe that its as simple as hes just got an 'addictive personality' or he has the addiction gene. jimmy himself even says that "before we got famous, lister showed little sign of being into the party lifestyle, beyond being mildly disruptive at school." (pg 79.) so its most likely due to other triggers that his addiction began.
one of the most obvious things that triggers his alcoholism is having access to money after growing up in poverty. also on pg 79 jimmy says "as soon as we started making money, lister's love for the finer things reared its head." growing up in poverty is fucking rough, and lister is still a young teen when they start getting famous, he has no idea how budgeting, savings or credit actually works. its a very typical childish response for him to have. in the scene where they argue in the bathroom lister confirms that he was very close to living on the streets, so of course hes going to be excitable and reckless when he has access to the wild amount of money they get from being famous. and again, lister basically confirms that this wealth is a big trigger for him, drinking and parties for him is just "enjoying having money and being happy." (pg. 141)
as for when that actually starts, isn't the most clear, but you can sort of create a timeline by looking at some of the extra materials like 'the incident on showday' and the wiki pages alice has made !! while the incident doesn't actually have a canon ending, the things we learn about the characters and how the act tells us a little bit more the ark's life pre-iwbft.
starting with 'the incident on showday' lister is 17 and it's very clear that he's already struggling with alcoholism. it's very much passed the 'just social drinking' phase considering he's (very badly) drinking in secret already. also cecily's 'no drinking on show days' rule is already a thing at the point. (this is all on the starting page of the game)
skipping slightly forward, when you get to the part where you're in the supply cupboard with jimmy, and choose to apologise, lister begins to ramble about his alcoholism and reveals quite a bit.
"look, i just... i know this isn't the first time i've done this and i promise... i swear i'll try to sort it out." / "i just... with the drinking... i feel like i can barely control it anymore, i dunno, and i always do it when i don't want to-"
from this we know that lister knows he has an issue, and maybe that he's been trying to deal with it on his own, but it hasn't been working out. either way, at 17, its already an issue that has been going on for a while. which makes me think that it became an addiction when he was either 16 or 17
we know that at these ages he's been through a lot. he was for the first time when he was 16, and i'd say it's implied that it happened again with kevin but thats a whole other conversation. it would have also been around the time that the suitcase incident happened and rowan was ignoring him, so he would've probably felt very lonely, and partied more to try cope with that. these, plus the money are probably the biggest causing factors for his addiction, at least from my interpretation.
also, as for jimmy and rowan not intervening, through iwbft, especially at the start, lister's drinking habits are sort of portrayed as just this quirk of his. though jimmy's attitude towards it gets more serious as the week goes on. jimmy only comes to the realisation that lister is displaying obvious signs of alcoholism for the first time when he finds him in the bathroom. he does attempt to bring this up to lister, but ultimately it is considered and issue for another day, which results in the whole lister almost dying because red flags weren't taken seriously enough thing. again thats probably better for a whole other conversation too.
but anyway, timeline that makes most sense in my head is:
the ark start blowing up + making money -> the record their first album -> lister is assaulted -> album eventually comes out and they're preparing for their first european tour -> lister accidentally outs jimmy -> rowan ignores lister for 2 months, so probably that entire tour -> lister is extremely lonely -> he starts to party more to as a coping mechanism simply because he can -> he learns that if he's ever sad or stressed drinking 'fixes' it -> congrats !! alcoholism achieved !! -> 'the incident on showday' takes place somewhere here
do not try this at home guys
SAW SUPER CUTE ASH AND SHORTER ART AND STARTED ROLLING AROUND MY BED THINKING OF ROOSTER IN THE BANANA FISH AU OHHHHYM GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD YOU GUYS OHMYGOD
anyway bf au rooster where rowan shows lister how to ride a motorbike after juvie. and rowan is there for him when lister leaves the mansion and helps him get his footing and looks out for him like a brother. ignoring the fact that im going to put them through an extremely tragic ending and kill them both because thats justs how it is guys im so sorry.
also jimmy and rowan in this au hehehehehe. like the meet in such a different way and they havent know eachother very long but rowan is still willing to do anything to keep jimmy safe and take care of him. they can't really explain it but they feel like if they knew eachother in another life theyd 100% be best friends (they are)
what’s ur opinion on louise?
i feel like i havent spoken abt her in a while an my thoughts have changed a lot since i last answered this question.
i feel like she's trying very hard. harder than listers able to comprehend as a kid, because doesn't understand that living as poor as they are isn't normal, because its what he's used to. all he knows is that his mother isn't around a lot and as kid, the obvious answer to him is that she must not like him and thinks he's a bad kid. and that continues into his teen and adulthood for a while. after a while he has an understand that she had to work. she had no choice but to work. it's between taking care of him physically (being able to buy food, clothes, rent, all that) vs being there for him emotionally, which would pretty much result in not being able to afford. yknow. a house.
i feel like if louise is in iana she'd be such an amazing character. i really need her and lister to repair their relationship, it'd help the both of them. but also louise learning abt the hell her son has been through while they had drifted apart would be so heartbreaking for her :(
also i feel like in her teens she was cool as fuck. i think she was big into the goth scene and had amazing music taste + style because of it. but after having lister (and i assume she had him fairly young-ish, like early 20's) she sorta forced herself to grow out of it so she could look after him and try give him the best life she could. i think she thought drums were really cool when she was a teen, but never got into it, so shes super excited when lister begins drumming and will always be his biggest fan sinces she has been since he started :)
lister automatically being distrusting of most adults but not really understanding why, lister wondering how many people at parties have imagined sleeping with him, lister not understanding why people call him 'the pretty one' when he's just as musically talented as rowan and jimmy, lister being scared to turn 18, lister wondering why it's considered 'normal' for people to slut shame him for just existing and being bi, lister beginning to loose his sense of self to his people pleasing habits, lister beginning to hate looking at himself because something is wrong with his reflection but he doesn't know what, lister being so so lonely but being to scared to open up to rowan or jimmy about it, lister making himself get worse until somebody notices he's hurting.
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Lister lays alone, in a river, wondering what life would be like without him.
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rewritten to flow a lot smoother and a bit of a change up to the ending as i wanted it to feel more complete before i post parts two and three :)
do u have any juliet hcs ??
YES !!!!!
- since she likes ariana, i feel like she'd enjoy more pop. bit of a swiftie, and maybe some kpop too. shes a loona girlie in my head. also new jeans
- but i can also see her having a super varies music taste, since she and mac bonded over music a bit. so i can see her liking a bit of radiohead or the cure as well, oh and the cranberries.
- also showtunes. she wuld love heathers, mean girls and legally blonde omg
- she likes the idea of learning the drums, but she never went with it since her parents wouldn't like it
- dorothy makes her tea and toast when shes sad, they also bake and watch movies together a lot. she's always been closer to her grandparents than her parents
- does a lot of retail therapy. if shes sad she'll get herself a little gift to feel better. she also really likes surprising others with gifts !! she always knows exactly what to get too
- she went to an all girls school
- ill be honest im a massive lesbian juliet truther. shes a girl kisser. mac made her realise she doesn't like guys lmao
- she loves animals. even though she;s scared of bugs she hates people who kill them instead of putting them outside.
- she likes to buy herself flowers, especially pink and white roses.
- always types in lower case and uses emojis like >:3 ^_^ :D <3
- after the kent stuff, she ends up deactivating her fan accounts, and just becomes a casual fan. she starts to volunteer places with bliss too
rich kid rowan omondi is so real
he would defo live in one of those 3 storey houses with loft conversions and conservatories and stuff
i feel like his parents worked so hard to give him a nice, happy, and comfy life because they wanted the best for him. i feel like their so lovely and i can't wait to see what his relationship is like with his family in iana
Lister on his birthday sitting on the sofa for hours waiting for Louise to come home but he ends up falling asleep lols
yes but also. lister waiting up late on her birthday after making a cake for her, but she comes home late and by then hes asleep on the couch and the icing on the cake has melted slightly. he's now too old for her to carry him to bed but she cant bring herself to wake him so she puts a pillow under his head and tucks a blanket over him.
lister thinking the way he lives is somewhat normal then he goes over to rowan and jimmy's houses and is like shiii
at rowans he stares at the fridge wondering what his parents must do for a living for it to be so full. pierro always telling him he can eat whatever he wants when hes over, which lister feels is like some sort of trap because how do people actually afford so much food
14, 15, and 27 for the ask game!! :D
14. is there a fic id like turned into a form of visual media?
id say cherry flavoured conversations (a wip that will be a follow up multi chap fic set after cherry flavoured cola) has a good, lengthy plot and would make for a good movie or visual novel. i can't qait to finsih it so i can share it with you guys like i dont want to give away too much but i love it so bad.
15. how do i come up with titles?
im terrible at it so it's mostly just song lyrics. but if not ill just go for something that fits the vibe or literally just what is happening in the 'main' scene, if that makes sense? like in my first fic, it's just rowan and lister talking with the lights of. in cfc, an important part of listers trauma and his triggers is cherry flavoured cola.
27. is there a fic i was ever scared to post?
honestly all of them, but mostly wipe my eyes and cut me off, ir anything to do with similar themes as that fic. i put a lot of myself into my work and it is very theraputic and helpful for me but i often find myself scared of getting hate for writing too much 'cringe venty stuff'one of the main reasons i haven't really been motivated to post anything lately is bevause of that fear, and work that my fics are a bit too dark lol. but also it is ao3 so it's whatever.
What are some video titles you think are on The Ark’s YouTube channel?
OOOO OKAY SO NOT TO SURE ABT JUST TITLES BUT HERES HOW I THINK IT GROWS AND WHAT KINDA CONTENT THEY MAKE THROUGH THE YEARS !!
their early videos are pretty basic, they're just titled "(song name) cover" and you can tell who posted the video based on whether they bothered to capitalise anhthing or not. (lister never uses capitals and often spells things wrong, jimmy is a lowercase lad but can actually spell and format it nice, rowan is pretty basic and Types Like This — Cover, they r so silly)
later they end up figuring out what sort of vibes they're going for and put in the effort to make nice thumbnails and make the channel look consistent by editing their older videos and only keeping the ones they actually like. still a lot of covers, but they start posting more of their original ideas, their own music or creative spin on something existing. around this time something they'd start doing which really builds the community and fandom is posting videos like "Band Practice with The Ark," which is sort of a small vlog of them messing around, their mistakes, jimmys voice cracking and lister tricki g to drum with his feet or rowan pretending to wack him with something. it really starts to show their personalities which is where the fans become more intrested in them as people. im thinking it would grow slightly similar to an ash kabosu style vlog, where they show them just hanging out too. this stops as they start getting recongised in public more.
as they get older a lot of videos are proposed by fort records. they only really post music related content and the occasional tour vlog. they have interviews and other types of videos posted on other channels as a collaboration sort of thing. think like inside or those buzzfeed qna's and of course the ark play with puppies video.
Why do u not like Jimmy- someone who doesn’t particularly like him either
Im not a huge fan of iwbft in general so maybe thats why but I also just can’t take him srsly when he talks abt his anxiety. EVERYTHING is about his anxiety. Makes me think of that Southpark episode where cartman says "I HAVE ANXIETY!!!😖😖😢😢🥺🥺" I wanted to learn more abt his trans journey too and I didn’t get that so.. anyways he’s just a meh character
ehhh, i mean, anxiety is a mental health disorder, like its a mental illness that Does impact huge aspects of his life. plus the book is very much about how fame worses the band boys mental health, of course its going to be mentioned a lot. jimmy has a lot of flaws that make his character so intresting to look into, but i wouldnt say his anxiety is a flaw, but just something he struggles with like so many people do. i am not the biggest fan of him, some of the reasons i dont like him are his biphobic attitudes and not being able to deal with issues (listers alcoholism for example) when they need to be faces to avoid them getting worse.
but like that guy is Not comparable to eric cartman lmao 😭😭
idk if we're sharing our unpopular iwbft opionions during this reread but mine are:
i don't think mac is bad
jimmy is not in love w lister and they wouldn't work out as a couple
confession guys. i actually rlly like mac. hes so stupid. silly stupid english man. so dumb.
we love a boiling hot take. i think Mac is actually somewhat similar to Angel. he isn't perfect but like he is a teenage boy the character development arc is still happening. i hear what ur saying about bicci and u have a point but idk i just really want it to happen it'd be so cute
macs only real crime was liking a girl and wanting to bond with her. lying to her was wrong, but he didnt really mean for it to go too far, like, he even spent tones of money on a concert and meet and greet ticket just to spend some time with her. even if it didnt work out, i think hed really learn and grow from that week. maybe they dont talk as much anymore, but stay mutuals online and sometimes give eachother updates abt how lifes going for them. also im queer coding mac for sillies. for a cheeky bit of fun, perhaps.
