#oncelercest

[grabbersimp]

Remember when people shipped him with himself? Good times.

[straightest-gay-ship-tournament]

Which Gay Ship is Straighter?

Round 4

Curtis x Shiro from Voltron: Legendary Defender

The Onceler X The Greedler from The Lorax

Voting ended onAug 30, 2025

Note: this is based on vibes and is all in good fun. We are not making any statements on the quality of the ships, only whether it has heterosexual vibes, whatever that means to you. Be civil in the notes or you will be banned.

Propaganda under the cut

Propaganda for/against Curtis x Shiro:

It's pretty much the gay version of when shows/movies force a main character (Shiro[white hair/scar]) to get a completely random and underdeveloped love interest (Curtis[brown hair]) solely because the love interest is a different gender from the mc, despite there being absolutely no proper build up to said relationship. So in this case, this relationship has "straight vibes" in the sense that it's very heteronormative in it's structure.

If these two were a male/female pairing it would easily win for the "most forced and boring heteronormative canon couple in the show" award. If you look up Curtis' relationship with Shiro on the wiki, it's literally described as and i quote: "Little is known about the personal relationship between Shiro and Curtis, aside from the two of them getting along quite well, but somewhere along the way the two presumably started dating, and got married a few years later after the war ended." https://voltron.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis

Basically they stood next to each other a few times in the background, never actually have a full on meaningful conversation with each other on screen that was outside of work/their jobs, and then they're shown getting married in the show's epilogue; which comes completely of out nowhere because they literally never have any on screen chemistry/meaningful interactions with each other prior to that.

And keep in mind, this show has 8 seasons, yet Curtis only showed up in the background in season 7 and then is barely shown throughout season 8, and he's mostly not directly interacting with Shiro at all. Plus the only real reason Shiro was paired up with Curtis in the end is because the show runners got backlash from the fandom for killing off Shiro's previous gay partner on screen in season 7 (who also only existed for a few episodes in said season).

So once again, if we're going off the heteronormative variation of "straight vibes", then I think this couple qualifies as a prime example of what the gay version of that looks like.

Propaganda for/against The Onceler X The Greedler:

This has to be the epitome of the forced agressive bad boy/meek soft boy ship. They were so desperate to yaoi this man that they split him in two.

[self-love-tournament]

Call for Submissions: The Self-Love Tournament 🎉👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

Be it alternate universes or freak transporter accidents, a witch's curse or timeline shenanigans, one thing that's fascinated scifi and geek fan culture for ages, especially on this hellsite, has been the prospect of meeting yourself.

And also.

What if you then did the dirty.

To honor this glorious tradition, I'm assembling a tournament that pairs the sexiest of tumblrmen with themselves, and then pits them against each other. We'll determine, once and for all, the selfcest champion.

Automatically included are some of the greats (and my personal favorites). Feel free to include them in submissions so I can curate lists of aliases/start collecting propaganda

The Onceler (from The Lorax movie)

Loki (from Marvel/the Loki tv show)

Ice King (from Adventure Time/Fionna and Cake)

Kira Nerys (from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)

Dave Strider (from Homestuck)

The Doctor (from Doctor Who)

Sans (from Undertale)

England (from Hetalia)

Submissions

I'll try to prioritize characters with more submissions or more impassioned propaganda, so keep that in mind when submitting

Self-Love Tournament Submissions

“This self-love is the instrument of our preservation; it resembles the provision for the perpetuity of mankind: it is necessary, it is dear

+ Ground Rules:

I reserve the right to exclude any characters or fandoms from the bracket (to be fair, the most hated usually get voted off quickly anyway). For example, I decided to exclude a MCYT character, as their player is not comfortable with certain fandom behavior, and there's significant overlap between the character and creator. I'm not here to shame you, but I don't want to amplify something that sexually objectifies a real person beyond their stated boundaries.

Feel free to vote on whatever criteria you see fit! I try to prioritize iconic ✨ examples, ones that have had large impacts on Tumblr history, and any personal blorbos 💖

(NEW 9/20) I did say whatever criteria, but I do feel like I should address hate-voting. I'm not going to forbid it, but I ask that you consider if you really do hate the character/fandom that much. For example, Oncelercest isn't my cup of tea by any means, but man.... you gotta hand it to him.....

I love passionate (and even sometimes violent) propaganda, but do NOT bully anyone or send targeted threats. If it's getting nasty out there, I might use my judgement to adjust this rule, but I hope I won't have to.

Please feel free to spread this submission list! Tagging some of my inspirations: @ao3topshipsbracket @who-do-i-know-this-man @stop-spreading-this-poll @masked-character-competition @bestadaptationtournament @ultimate-anime-tournament @unlikely-adversaries-bracket @top-fictional-unhinged-women @mosthomoeroticenemies @bestfictionaldivorce @controversial-blorbo-bracket @tournament-winners-tournament @the-most-character-i-ever-saw :)

From my end, I really appreciated how @controversial-blorbo-bracket ran their tournament, so I'll try to follow their lead: be open and transparent, give people who are writing propaganda the benefit of the doubt where possible, and try to take passionate takes in stride.

(NEW 9/24) Constructive crit or feedback in good faith is appreciated! I want to make this a space for celebration of fandom

[arorea]

Great! Can't wait till they make a oncelercest themed one! :D

[self-love-tournament]

CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS, TAKE TWO

Hi all! If you follow these tags, you may be interested in the selfcest tournament! Please share the post below to help get the word out! We'd love to have a bit more submissions before we begin the tournament:)

Be it alternate universes or freak transporter accidents, a witch's curse or timeline shenanigans, one thing that's fascinated scifi and gee

thank you to ao3's comprehensive tagging system and filtering for letting me know all the ship names seen here. altho tbh I could have guessed most of them lol

[syntymatitahna]

Ancient greece: "this is the pinnacle of fiction, having a flawed character go on a journey, have an arc, and grow into a better person"

Tumblr: "hold my beer" *makes them fuck*

[janeshepnerd]

does the onceler fandom still exist