With the new sh00ting there has been so much misinformation. I want to clear some stuff up so that YOU can know what is right!
1. There were two p3rps, Caleb (Fleck) and Cain (Surface)
2. The people in the call recording the shooting were Otto (damska, a known person in the 🍵🌊🌊 who would post about payton) and Noelle (Calebs girlfriend) They both knew about the attack, Otto even helped with the manifesto (allegedly) so they are most likely both getting investigated
Otto drew the MyMy in this image below. And also drew the Payton Marsey in Calebs incel.is page.
3. (UPDATING THIS SECTION) In a lot of photos of Caleb and Cain it is hard to differentiate between the two, because the case is so early and has happened so recently theres been so many people thinking photos of Caleb are Cain. There are barely any photos of Cain and majority are Caleb.
4. The reason there is no audio in the “livestream” and there probably will never be a version with audio that will be RELEASED, is because Otto was screen recording Noelle showing him the live. Discord mutes audio if you screen record. And Noelle probably had a version with audio but as we know shes probably being investigated and it has been taken in as evidence by the police.
5. Caleb and Cain met online
6. They were not trans, people have been saying this and its just stupid as hellllll to say.
7. The image below was Noelles (Calebs gf) last repost. She also had multiple other reposts of videos about the shooting normally with notes like “Why avery why” (Avery is another name Caleb went by)
8. Caleb apparently called Cain a puppyboy before. LMAOAOAOAOAOA i got this from someone that knew them for 1-2 years.
9. Caleb wore a Spongebob mask posing as Noctulian FreakyBob and hes in some edits of freakybob apparently lol (You can see the mask behind him on the mannequin)
Extra photos i got of them that i dont think many people have (UPDATE: the first two have now been added to wpd with an additional image)
Another image of Caleb (i think)