I'm calling bullshit on this show version of Raymun Fossoway. House Targaryen as a whole, throughout it's 200 years in power, is not significantly more tyrannical than previous royal families in Westeros. Some individual Targ Kings have been, they certainly were more dangerous than anyone else when they had dragons. But monarchy and feudalism have long been the status quo in Westeros. Before the Targs Westeros was made up of numerous kingdoms who fought each other for land and power. Who sometimes massacred each others people, or pushed them into fighting each other. Some rulers were better than others, but they all upheld a system of regular violence and inequality. That is Westerosi tradition.
Targaryens never made slaves of anyone in Westeros. They made the high born their subjects. The people whose treatment is the most comparable to slaves in Westeros are not the conquered high born, it's the peasants (and worse thralls for Ironborn), who as a class have been oppressed by kings, high lords and land owners since as long as there have been kings, high lords and land owners (yes that includes you apple boys).
The Targs took these same traditions on a continent wide scale. Aegon's conquest was brutal, the scale of the war was astronomical, but he doesn't seem to have changed the social or political order as far as the power highborns have over their lands and their peasants. He left most of the same families in charge of their land, the Kings who knelt became Lords Paramount. He converted his family to the Faith and didn't mess with the religious cultures of the land (only Maegor really challenged the church). It's not surprising many high born people like the Fossoways see the Targaryens in the worst light possible, but it doesn't really fit with the history George has written.
George loves writing about Targ history, he has focused on it more than any other house or culture. The dynasty would be much less interesting if they were continuously good or evil. Their kings, queens and other influential members have been competent or incompetent, cruel or benevolent or neglectful, by the political & ethical norms of their world. There have been only a few actually mad Targaryen kings, but many of them end up making terrible decisions based on an overblown sense of self-importance, and their connection to prophecy and the 'higher mysteries' (there may be a 'drama queen' gene involved, as well as literal dragon DNA). This complexity is what makes them fascinating.
@TheMaeMartin: For those who listened to @OffMenuOfficial here is the photo I took of James in Sydney looking like a Prince after enjoying prawns, and here is the little clay man. (x)
Ik you said you wouldn't be posting about the Ethan thing but I just wanted to say - Ethan posting all this content about Giulia and posting about a protest in Rome in her honor (?). . . I don't see how he can be the man claimed in that IG post when he's publicly posting all this stuff in support of Giulia and protests and wanting education for men. Surely if it WAS him in that ig post, he wouldn't be out here liking and posting for Giulia? Or am I just naive?
I'm answering this because it'is not even about Ethan, or any other man at this point, it's about women. I think it's very, very important, now more than ever, to keep in mind that Giulia is not going to be the last, so we need to be extra careful while we wait for the fine day when men evolve and stop acting like primates.
I'm not the kind of person who hates all men, mind you, but it's a fact that women keep on being slaughtered. Appearances are deceptive, we can only trust people we know really well, and even then we could run into the "nice guy" who bakes us f*cking cookies one day, and stabs us the next. So, Anon, to answer your question, trusting a guy just because he posts nice things on Insta you're a bit naive, and if you're a woman, sadly this is not a luxury you have right now. Btw, the reason why I believe those rumors are fake has nothing to do with whatever Ethan shares on his account, but I'm still glad he's helping amplifing the message.
idk if you use twitter/instagram but there’s been hugeeee dramas(?) regarding both thomas and ethan and i love ur opinions so i need ur opinions on the matter
idk about Thomas and I don't love that anon referred to the situation as "drama" since the allegations are very serious. However there is so little credibility and specificity in the situation that I get it. Everything is to the best of my knowledge.
A couple days ago, an instagram user sent serious allegations about Ethan to several Maneskin fans (and we don't know who else). "I know stories related to Ethan that are quite problematic." That sentence is how the user prefaced the concerning details, which I won't be sharing for that very reason. Knowing "stories related to" someone is way too many degrees of separation for any level of credibility. The account was quickly deleted and never disclosed their identity.
Enter a small Italian instagram account which claims to create a safe space to call out abuse by influential figures. The page is less than 3 months old, however the person or people running it are experienced with social media branding. They are organized and eloquent social activists/feminists who are absolutely sure they are doing the right thing here.
The "reports" are just screen shots of DMs that describe allegations. Each set of messages is prefaced by a description of the accused, instead of a name. I don't see how this is effective at anything besides creating a tornado of gossip and avoiding a defamation lawsuit. Two days ago they posted a detailed collection of allegations attributed to "il batterista di una nota rockband italiana." Translation: "the drummer of a well known Italian rock band." The details in the call out are consistent with the dubious messages to fans. So people assumed it was about Ethan, which was very likely the goal of the description.
We can't know if these allegations came from the same user that messaged fans because the call out account keeps their sources anonymous. The fact that they post screen shots does not inspire confidence that the accuracy of their content is being verified. The only step they claim to take is waiting to post a "report" until they receive messages from two victims. This single protocol is inadequate authentication of career ending allegations where Ethan isn't even named. To quell your curiosity, the gist is that this person is volatile and manipulative within his romantic relationships. He notoriously never wears condoms, even if he's entered a safe sex agreement with his partner, never mind the consequences.
I'm not gonna waste time debunking the Twitter account who was using the label "grooming" more liberally than lube on a straight man's sphincter. Trust it was the opposite of credibility. (And use the dictionary definition when accusing someone of a crime ffs!)
So we're left with 3 streaming piles of nothing until @/lauralfonsic likes the call out post. That handle belongs to Laura Alfonsi Castelli, Ethan's ex-girlfriend. (They do still follow each other). Her motivations for liking this post about "the drummer of a well known Italian rock band" seem obvious, but with allegations this serious it's important to acknowledge that we don't actually know.
Credit: @/ilballodivic
Then Damiano's ex Girogia Soleri released a statement that was purposefully nonspecific, but sided with Ethan whom she's known for 6+ years. Her and Laura are friends which makes them being on opposite sides of this strange.
What's even stranger is Giorgia's best friend Federica Fabrizio posting the call out on her story. Not only has Giorgia taken a stance against the call out, she's done it in a way that doesn't lead back to the source. She limited the call out's exposure so that fewer people would see it. Federica did the exact opposite, which is unexpected because her and Giorgia are also partners in social advocacy.
The statement isn't overt, but Federica appears to be taking some responsibility for creating the call out. Its like she's posting a finished project with a clever one-liner to express that she's proud of herself without seeming too boastful. It's improbable, except that the call out account, which self-identifies in social justice and is Italian-speaking, functions with the help of activists.
Buckle up. Federica's next instagram story was this bathroom selfie with a bold caption.
Obviously shit is hitting the fan back in Rome with former members of Maneskin's inner circle, but we have zero facts.
Ultimately, there is no evidence that Ethan is guilty of anything. You've probably noticed I haven't made it simple to find the post or account, which is intentional. Please pontificate less and research more. A person's reputation is fragile. Once broken, the pieces never quite go back together.
…but seriously how do kids afford concert tickets these days??? Lots of young people go to these incredibly expensive concerts and they can’t all have rich parents right?
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