#anti harmony

[rons-amortentia]

Ron will always be the guy people want their Harry, Draco, Snape, dumbledore, dobby and alllll the characters that people ship her with to be. what they write on AO3 after modification of personality, we got that printed in canon books in 85 different languages. Never forget 😌

[tyashj]

aww playing the victim are we? first you came into my properly tagged post arguing with me and name calling me and making comments about my personal life and then blocking me cause I diffused your dumb arguments. Remember even if I disagreed with you I never called you names I was nothing but polite to you but you didn't gave me the same courtesy. Also I didn't delete even one of your comments the replies were unavailable cause you blocked me lol. this is how Tumblr system works. you came into my post spammed into my notifications and I answer you back I become the villain lol? If you don't want hinny notifications maybe next time don't go into properly tagged posts.

I can defend whoever I want I can like whatever ship I want you are no one to tell me. The main post wasn't even about hinny it was calling out the slut shaming of ginny. next time learn some basic courtesy and maybe not try to insult real people over fictional characters.

[hp-confessions]

"Hermione will end up with Harry if Ron wasn't there" dude Harry's type is not Hermione. He like pretty, popular and athletic girls like Ginny and Cho. Harry barely survive being alone with Hermione because she's too bossy for him. They just looked good because of Emma and Daniel

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[toorumlk]

Hey! Do you think there’s any chance they might not make Romione canon in the upcoming HBO series because of the popularity of other pairings and JKR’s somewhat recent statements concerning the ship?

fair warning this is gonna be a long post!

you know anon, i’m not gonna deny that the possibility of romione not being canon in the hbo series doesn’t keep me up at night HOWEVER COMMA-

I believe romione will be safe because i’m placing a lot, if not all, of my faith in the upcoming hbo series being repeatedly described as a "faithful" adaptation of the 7 novels. which we can deduce to mean romione friends to lovers slow burn endgame and all that good stuff (maybe i'll talk about the potential of book romione and the serial tv medium some other time)

and sure, it can all be marketing/pandering/etc. but i find it so hard to feel cynical about hbo because i love LOVE their shows and i'm of the belief that they know how to tell a good ass story (and romione happens to be a good ass romance subplot). i also have such positive feelings about the showrunner Frances Gardiner (consulting prod on succession and also has killing eve under her belt) who JKR chose herself and one of the exec producers of the show who's set to direct of a bunch of episodes Mark Mylod (succession, the menu, tlou, got)!!!! and if you know me at all you'll know that succession is one of the main pillars of my personality and i fucking love that show so bad I would follow anyone who was part of the making of that show off a cliff if they asked me to. and Mark Mylod is a fantastic fucking episodic director who's directed and produced some of the best episodes of television ever, so i know he knows how to tell a good story. and though i'm a lot less familiar with Gardiners' work, she is a female creative who has some of my personal favourite episodes listed in her imdb (chiantishire, living+, tailgate party) who's pitch of the show made joanne give her the job so.... and y'all know im a canon bootlicker and love the books so all i'll say is.. real recognizes real.

so knowing the creative team behind hp series had a direct hand in making my favourite show of all time gets me so excited and giddy!!!!

but here's where my personal theories and speculations start: I really think with this hbo series, JKR is on a mission is create something wholly and newly hers. she was barely involved creatively in the production of the movies until DH pt. 1 and 2 and the movies have almost become an entity of its own that's drifted so far away from her. of course i realize me even just talking sympathetically about JKR is deeply touchy and might piss some people off but as a fellow creative, i feel for her man!! when i think of the best books in the series in my opinion that are filled with the best bits of world building and political commentary, what i find is that GoF was handed to a director who didn't even read the book, OotP was the shortest movie in the franchise despite being the longest book and how it entirely missed the Quibbler plot and all of harry's rage, or HBP that was filled to the brim with *chefs kiss* tom/voldemort lore which was done a complete disservice in the grey and brown sludgy mess that is the HBP movie.

and knowing that JKR now has a strained relationship or had a falling out with most of the top dogs involved in the films like Kloves and Yates (hallelujah what who said that) and Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe means this show has the chance to be a behemoth that’s entirely joanne’s, like the books are. it’ll be free of Kloves' Hermione and harmony (harry x hermione) favouritism or Watson's take on Hermione's character that makes my ass itch or Yate’s complete inability to direct his actors and make non-action scenes have heart, soul and heft. but i also can’t not address the elephant in the room: this section of the discussion is filled with every shade of grey possible because what led to the falling outs was that they all vehemently disagreed with JKR's anti-trans views and good on them they absolutely should! but like.............. i hated kloves' writing and his butchering of ron's character, i think yates is a static and boring director and im not a fan of emma's acting so like... a win is a win? NO IT'S NOT. but IT IS. BUT IT'S SO NOT. but do you see what i'm getting at???

the point i'm trying to make is that joanne is not the same person she was when she was first writing the books or when the movies were being made. I think she's a lot more ruthless and cutthroat now and while i disagree with her methods and condemn her transphobia.... i think this newfound hardness to her will lend itself to making the hbo series the best HP adaptation it can be, I'M SORRY it's absolutely fucked and i acknowledge and abhor her gender critical politics as a queer woman but im also an artist who just wants good, high quality stories to be told 😔😩

and as for the other popular ships and JKR's somewhat recent comments about romione:

I think its safe to say that joanne dgaf about this fandom and what's popular in it anymore LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭 i genuinely respect that she's always stood ten toes down about how draco's not some antihero, bad boy love interest and at best is a cautionary tale on prejudiced bullies, so I don't think that's changing anytime soon. especially considering that the dramione cottage industry that its fans have made is more or less a reactionary "fuck you" to joanne and canon which they do by writing fanfic about crimes against women and making merch and binding physical copies of said fanfics (really showing it to the big baddie transphobic DV survivor by *checks notes* auctioning hermione off as a sex slave) so I doubt she'd ever consider other ship's popularity seriously. as for the possibility of harry and hermione becoming endgame um..... if the show plans to faithfully adapt the books then we'd get harry and hermione’s quintessential sibling dynamic plus we’re already free from Kloves (also i have faith in francesca and mark knowing that harmony are just plain BORING) so i think the chances, again, are low. and if joanne really wants to stick it to her old colleagues, she can go down the route of pushing romione that much harder (and she really wouldn’t have to do much, it’s all in the books already) 😭

as for the comments on romione that she’s made in recent years, i think a lot of it’s been blown out of proportion or have gone through a terrible game of telephone. what she said (paraphrasing here) about ‘wishing she’d handled ron/hermione differently because a lot of what went into them was a wish fulfillment fantasy’ has turned into ‘jk rowling regrets making romione endgame???!!’ which is just *takes a drag from a cigarette* just another tuesday around here. i also would link to two meta posts by @saintsenara on the topic of endgame romione which i wholeheartedly agree with it

all i have to say is that going into making this show i hope joanne remembers that she based ron’s character off of a person in her life she liked when she was younger and who is still a good friend of hers now 😭😔

you guys probably know i’m in animation school which is basically film school in a different font. so i’m quite literally training to one day work in the story department on projects and work alongside writers, directors and producers, so this stuff means a lot to me! she and the creative team behind this upcoming show have the chance to make something really special and i’m finding it hard not to root for them!!!!!

[vaffyu]

Hahaha, to your recent reply, you glorify the way Harry and Ginny were written. Ginny in the books is written as a cheap, stupid flirty girl who wanted to be with Harry. Ginny is not worthy of Harry and never will be. The maximum hinny is suitable for is to fuck a couple of times. This is how these relationships are described in books. Harry/Hermione, Harry/Luna, Harry/Cho relationship would be much more logical than Harry/Ginny. It is you hinny idiotic fans who add the hinny sub-effects, the off-screen development that Harmony or Huna do not need. It's only your personal interpretation that you think is hinted in books, that you confuse with the truth, while you ignore a bunch of other arguments, in non-canonical terms, that make much more sense.

Hahahaha, being blamed of deluded interpretations by Harmony or Huna shippers is hilarious, when Harry literally thought of Ginny as his family in DH, when he prioritized wanting to kill Bellatrix just because she attacked Ginny, when his last thought before dying was Ginny and their first kiss, when he married her and had 3 children with her. All this happened in canon. 🤣

Your message reeks of saltiness. And I get it. Your ships sank, while ours is canon. Hinny are happily married. And so is Hermione, to her actual soulmate, Ron. Just because you're a classist fuck who has some vendetta against the Weasleys doesn't mean that your ship makes sense.

I'll wait for even a SINGLE scene from canon where Harmony and Huna are obvious without any delusional interpretations of the text. 😂

Hinny shippers don't need subtext and interpretations. Or we don't need to make Harry completely OOC to make him fall for Ginny.

Anyhow, perhaps you should spend more time reading or writing about your OTPs than harassing Hinny shippers. We honestly have better things to do. 🙂

[hollowed-theory-hall]

thoughts on harmione as a romantic ship?

Hi 👋

As with all ship stuff, ship whatever, have fun, these are just my own very subjective opinions.

I assume you meant Harmony, as in Harry x Hermione and that's what I'm answering about here. And my subjective opinion is that I don't see it working. Like, I think Harry is gay, but let's say he's bi and explore this possibility.

The reason I'm saying I don't see it is because Harry and Hermione’s friendship feels less close to me than Ron & Harry or Ron & Hermione. Like, this is the pair with the weakest connection in the trio for me. Ron is Harry's best friend and Hermione's best friend, but Harry and Hermione aren't each other's best friends. I mean, there's a reason Harry had to save Ron from the lake and not Hermione in GoF.

Harry and Hermione don't really communicate in the same way and without the troll in first year and the "forged in fire" element of their friendship, Harry would probably dislike Hermione. Like, he does in first year, and I truly think without the troll to give them that push, Harry wouldn't have befriended Hermione.

To me, the part that shows it the most in the books is in book 7 when Ron leaves. In the movies they got cute scenes together, in the books, they're both depressed and barely talk to each other. Ron is the connecting tissue between Harry and Hermione and without him, their friendship is stilted and awkward.

Harry jumped down from his own bed, keeping his eyes averted from Ron’s. Hermione, who was already busy in the kitchen, did not wish Harry good morning, but turned her face away quickly as he went by

[...]

They were spending many evenings in near silence

(DH)

You see it in book 4 as well when Ron leaves for a bit, Harry and Hermione don't get along all that well without Ron in the middle:

“...I only know about them because I’ve been doing O.W.L. practice papers. . . .” “Hermione,” Harry said, through gritted teeth, “will you shut up for a bit, please? I’m trying to concentrate.”

[...]

“Hermione — I need you to help me.” “What d’you think I’ve been trying to do, Harry?” she whispered back, her eyes round with anxiety over the top of the quivering Flutterby Bush she was pruning

(GoF)

I mentioned above that Harry and Hermione don't communicate the same. Well, they don't.

Hermione loves very verbose conversations and arguments like she has with Ron. That's her fun when it comes to conversation. Harry, on the other hand, is more inclined to witty bitty remarks and fewer words. Harry often asks Hermione to shut up or he just tones out Ron and Hermione's banter.

They don't get along with each other's emotions. Like, Hermione forgets how angry Harry is, and when he does get angry at her or anyone, she doesn't know how to handle him at all and outright fears him a little:

“WHO HAD TO GET PAST DRAGONS AND SPHINXES AND EVERY OTHER FOUL THING LAST YEAR? WHO SAW HIM COME BACK? WHO HAD TO ESCAPE FROM HIM? ME!” Ron was standing there with his mouth half-open, clearly stunned and at a loss for anything to say, while Hermione looked on the verge of tears.

(OotP) - and there are more examples of this here.

Harry knows to recognize when Hermione is sad or upset, but he doesn't actually know what to do with it or how to comfort her and just wishes someone else would do it or that she won't mention it so he won't have to comfort her.

She threw herself into a chair, curled up, and started to cry. Harry felt dazed. He stooped, picked up the Horcrux, and placed it around his own neck. He dragged blankets off Ron’s bunk and threw them over Hermione

(DH)

“Oh, hello, Harry,” she said in a brittle voice. “I was just practicing.” “Yeah . . . they’re — er — really good. . . .” said Harry. He had no idea what to say to her. He was just wondering whether there was any chance that she had not noticed Ron, that she had merely left the room because the party was a little too rowdy, when she said, in an unnaturally high-pitched voice, “Ron seems to be enjoying the celebrations.” “Er . . . does he?” said Harry.

(HBP)

And if we go deeper into their personalities, they are antithetical to each other on the basis of their very worldview. Harry doesn't trust in authority. He believes in keeping things to himself and hates orders so much that he is naturally resistant to the imperius curse. Hermione, on the other hand, tends to trust authority more. She's a bootlicker. She likes it when teachers and people she believes have authority over her like her and praise her achievements. While Harry could do with more praise, he doesn't need it the same way because in his mind, just because someone is a teacher and supposedly above him in some hierarchy doesn't mean that they're better or deserving of the position.

(Hermione learns to be a bit more like this later on, but still, in book 7, she's always the one arguing they should listen to Dumbledore's wishes for them when Harry and Ron doubt. More on this here)

I just think that as a couple, they'd annoy each other much more than as friends. Like, it's telling that when they're living just the two of them in a tent for a while, they barely even talk, and when they do, they mostly just upset each other more, so they choose to spend the evenings in mostly silence.

Obviously, you could write anything to be compelling, and I have nothing against anyone who ships Harry nad Hermione togather, but this isn't a pairing I like personally or see happening.

[leaelakey]

Why tf is Harmony growing on me? These two are the definition of platonic and incompatible af. Why do I find them interesting? Why are they so hot?

[hprambles-blog]

Had a discussion on a hp server and thought to drop my thoughts here 🙂‍↕️ (bet you don’t get many non-anon asks)

Thee only way I can see Harmony tent sex happening is if they had a strand of hair from both Ginny and Ron used it as polyjuice and they have the most saddest depressing no passion, intimacy in their life and then it’s not even themselves because it’s literally incest

Thank you have a good day

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