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camilabilly vs daisybilly discourse actually surprised me at first because when i read the book i thought the point was that feelings are complicated and life is complicated and billy and camila could have a healthy loving relationship and billy and daisy could be insanely good matches for each other as well. and camilabilly were together and daisybilly werent and couldnt and it was just all very sad but its a logical ending. u dont get to love in concrete terms
What are you so afraid of? Do you think that I wasn’t scared? When I held her for the first time and you weren’t even there?
uh, okay. Billy Dunne relapsed and cheated on his wife multiple times. Billy Dunne back to the life he sworn he wouldn't live it. why is that awful as it sounds?
DJATS it's an adaptation and in the book, the original source, Billy Dunne is a recovered addicted in his 70's remembering his rock star days and how those days conflicted with the man he wanted to be. Was him perfect? Jesus, no. That man was garbage. BUT he has the benefit of trying.
Show Billy was stripped of all the grace that made Book Billy complex, becoming a shallow version of himself with no depth, moral or control. Who was Billy Dunne?
Billy Dunne fought relapsing with everything he had. He made pancakes to his daughters (yes he has three, which he chose to have with his wife) and carried his wife to bed. Billy Dunne fell in love with Daisy and burned with her. They created art and chaos together. She was his twin flame and he loved her, completely. He never needed it to kiss her or sleep with her. In fact, that was the main appeal to them: he loved daisy, not her body, as all the others men in her life. Not that he wasn't attracted to her. But it wasn't that to him. He also loved Camila, his wife and soulmate, deeply. He broke her but spend all his days trying to live up to the man he thought she deserved. Camila had faith on him and looked at him seeing more than his mistakes and sins. Because she loved him, he survived and achieved his dreams. Because he loved her, she found strength to forgive.
Billy overcame addiction, which it isn't easy. Billy broke generational trauma and gave his brother a mirror of a man who could be a example of father and husband. Billy loved two women and while yes, it broke all the three of them, he did his best to be there for Camila while trying to show Daisy that she deserved so much better. Camila also shows Daisy underserved kindness. As someone whose people never had faith in, Camila's act of faith saves Daisy Jones.
We all can understand that tv shows were never keen of complex relationships and feelings, specially romantic ones, right? They would never translate the depth of Billy's love for Camila or they would never show the depth of Billy's affection for daisy, or so they thought. So they chose one of those. But in this choice, they actually stoled everything that made Billy Dunne be Billy Dunne. They stoled his strength, his loyalty, his sense of duty and his layered, complex heart.
Billy was egocentric, selfish, rude and cruel as he was in the source material. But that's all he is. Show Billy has no redeemable quality. He humiliate and abuses Camila while put Daisy in a position no woman should ever find herself in it. Hell, show fans can't even talk about Billy outside his relationship with Daisy, because they would have to acknowledge that he's empty. And to think they had Sam Claffin, who would absolutely delivery the most wonderful, heartbreaking, emotional performance while playing such complex, flawed character.
just did the math and if jules was born in the early 70s she was around 25 when camila died/she filmed the documentary so. i'm sad now :(
My DJATS au stuff (Unwritten)
Daisy's love is one-sided,as well as Eddie's.
No cheating at all.
Rumors about Daisy/Billy and Camila/Eddie that are quickly shut down
Billy goes to rehab when Camila's 5-6 months pregnant,so he's there for Julia's birth,but is afraid to pick her up at first and nearly walks out of the delivery room
On the first tour,a groupie forcibly kisses Billy, and he feels guilty about it.
Daisy and Eddie confess their one-sided love for Billy and Camila, respectively,in 1975
Daisy marries Nicky in 1976, quickly divorces him,moves on to Eddie a few months later
Karen and Graham adopt a daughter in 1980
Camila dies in 2007,instead of the 90s
10. Possibly more Camilly smut? I mean, they're literally married. They've canonically had s*x. There's Daisybilly smut,but nothing for Camilly
11. Susana and Maria exist
12. Lisa gets more characterization
Also,in a modern AU,I might give karengraham a biological kid/ maybe have them get married. What do y'all think? (It's fanfic,so it doesn't have to make sense Canon wise.)
GAH OKAY so I’m doing some light healthy re-reading of DJATS and I’ve realized why I’m not the biggest fan of show!Camila/Billy, and it’s honestly because of the fundamental way in which show!Camila’s character has been changed.
book!Camila had faith in Billy, always. She accepted him when he came back from rehab, and was committed to making a family with him, always and forever. I read this line from the book and it totally struck me as a core of book!Camila’s character, her love for Billy and her desire for a family with him, and her total commitment to making that happen for herself and him. Billy cheats, falls into a drug wormhole, misses his daughters birth, and when he comes back, Camila lets it go.
CAMILA: I think you have to have faith in people before they earn it. Otherwise it’s not faith, right?
show!Camila doesn’t do that. She didn’t even say those words, so I get the sense that show!Camila loves her daughter, on some level loves Billy, wants a family… but doesn’t 100% want that family with Billy. (Eddie, on the other hand… *cough cough*).
So, essentially I think it’s easier for me to dive into DaisyBilly and CamilaEddie as opposed to CamilaBilly, because honestly show!Camila doesn’t seem 100% convinced, deep deep down, that she wants Billy all the way.
Show!Billy to Camila: I’ll write you a song if you go out with me
Show!Billy:
Billy Dunne / A Pearl, Mitski
