Honestly before s4 i was like, ok m*leven is kinda cute, they are young, exploring their new relationship and stuff like this.
But after s4 omg i was shocked by their relationship, ST showed us clearly that they are toxic for eachother. They can be friends ofc I would adore seeing them as friends, but I’m talking about them being in a romantic relationship only!
The way Mike reacts with her literally having a breakdown is atrocious, while with Will he tries his best for bringing back their friendship because he feels like he lost him fr.
Well who you think Mike love then? He doesn’t even be able to tell her a simple “i love you”. How hard can be with the love of your life? (I’m in a relationship and trust me that “i love you” is literally a daily thing)
Who think m*leven would be endgame is the “delusional” shipper (I’m using byler haters words), surely not Bylers. Irl relationships born also for convenience, they aren’t always real love. I’m one of that people that believes Mike is Gay, not Bi. And watching how truble Will is having with his feelings for Mike, we can clearly suppose Mike is not so different, but instead of keeping everything inside, he hides the “problem” dating a girl. Because is what a boy should do (from society perspective)
Also
St*ncy and Ted with Karen are two big examples of a not good romantic relationship.
Nancy understood that her relationship wasn’t good for her, Mike probably is having more difficulties since well they are in 80s and he already had people accusing him of being gay. But i wanna believe Mike will open his eyes and see who really is the person he loves (romantically).
I trust the Duffers, I don’t think all the mess of S4 about m*leven was casual and that they’ll be in love and happy in s5, leaving Will alone and still in the closet.
C’mon.
Obliviously people can keep thinking what they want about their otps and loving them.
But denying what is true, is not good. Byler can be canon.







