#fwippysays

[highdio]

fwippysays submitted:

Probably been sent to you already, but Miu Miu is also visible in the OP at the 30 second mark

Thanks! Very cool to see her included in the OP.

[ociel-namesuggestions]

This is more of a follow-up to abybweisse's May 28, 2021 submission of "Bardroy 'Bard; Baldroy," but given that we now know that (a) Sebastian first referred to him as "Mr. Baldroy." generally a form of address used with surnames; (b) his son went by "Baldo Jr.," with the Jr. suffix usually based on a shared first name... This is so super-cursed, but I really do think that's as good an indication as any that Baldo's full name is, canonically, "Baldroy Baldroy." It's not even all that unusual if he can trace his family line that far back for surnames to eventually become given names. ....Even so, poor Baldo😔

I’m still taking submissions for Bard/Baldo, since it could just be his son also goes by his last name. (They have the same first name, but neither of them goes by their first name, so it’s “Baldo” and “Baldo Jr”, instead.)

Unless there’s been a translation error about first versus last name (and I doubt it in this case), then Baldroy is his last name:

If @abybweisse is right about any of her name suggestions, terrible or otherwise, god forbid it be this one.

[abybweisse]

I'd be interested in your thoughts on something that isn't adding up for me wrt BDs: Despite being low on blood & "hungry" for a while, Layla was able to infiltrate Athena, fight w Lau, and run full tilt through the woods after being shot through the heart. Polaris fought Agni easily, yet became weak after freaking out & slashing a few drapes, all while having no shortage of blood. Meanwhile R!C collapses into a veiny heap nightly, even as early as Ch115. Do these inconsistencies mean anything?

Inconsistent depiction of these latest bizarre dolls?

I'm not sure there's any real inconsistency here, honestly, it's just that we are only seeing snippets of their activities. Let's look at each of the most advanced bizarre dolls we've witnessed.

1. Layla says she came to the sanatorium to find out why they weren't making their quota. While she's been there, she's quite possibly been secretly getting transfusions; kind of depends on who Al is and whether he has the know-how to help her with the equipment. Maybe she even knows how to load the machine with blood and hook herself up to it. If she's Canopus, her specific blood type supply is indeed low (assuming she doesn't know she can also use Vega blood). If she's (part of) Vega, the blood supply shouldn't be nearly so low (but still affected by ruined blood collection facilities elsewhere), but if Vega really is two people, that effectively cuts the supply in half for each of them. Also, she could have a large "appetite" and never feels satisfied. It's particularly weird that she keeps trying to ingest the blood, despite knowing it can't be used that way. She seems like an advanced bizarre doll at the very verge of resorting back to the mindless version that bites anything that's alive (with a soul). Any moment, she could act like Agares near the end of the Midnight Tea Party scene. Still, despite feeling "hungry", she's got enough blood in her to fight with speed, agility, etc. I'm not sure how physically strong she is, but she might not need to rely on physical strength. Of course, she's bleeding freely now, and I expect that energy to run out as she travels back from Wiltshire to wherever Lord Ciel is currently stationed (might still be Phantomhive Manor, on the outskirts or just outside of Greater London). If she even makes it back to Lord Ciel, then she might barely have the energy left by then to make a full report.

2. Polaris probably had a transfusion right before being transported to the Phantomhive townhouse in London, so he would have been at or near full energy levels when he fought Agni. By the time we see Polaris making his report about the Yorkshire facility, he's been to Yorkshire, seen the state of the operations there, done who knows what else, and then used whatever transportation to get back to Lord Ciel (apparently at Phantomhive Manor, far away from Yorkshire) to make his report. Then, like you say, during his report he goes into a tantrum of sorts, slashing the curtains and stabbing the floor. That might have just about used up his dwindling reserves of energy, and yet even then, he's not passing out, like Lord Ciel was earlier. He's on the floor, but it's not necessarily because he's out of energy. And he's not the one complaining of too little blood supply, feeling "hungry", or even feeling weak, for that matter. It's Lord Ciel who says Polaris probably needs a transfusion and rest. I mean, Polaris is visibly weakened and panting at this point but not complaining about weakness or hunger.

3. Lord Ciel, formerly going by Lord Sirius, technically has the largest blood supply. But--! Either he doesn't realize he can accept any whole blood for transfusion, or he knows but doesn't want anything accept his own specific blood type. He's either uninformed or an elitist. Either way, Sirius is the rarest blood type, and he's not getting nearly enough blood to keep him going as well or as long as someone like Polaris. However, like Polaris, Lord Ciel was probably given a transfusion just before their trip to encounter Soma and Agni. Take note that Lord Ciel/Sirius backs away (probably back to the carriage) soon after shooting Agni, as Polaris says he will finish up the work. This is probably an early indication that Lord Sirius doesn't have nearly as much energy or stamina as Lord Polaris.

To me, the biggest inconsistency (or just something we don't understand... yet) is how these highly advanced bizarre dolls run out of energy when their blood runs out/gets old/whatever while the bizarre dolls that never received a drop of blood seem to go on and on like the freaking Energizer bunny. Perhaps that's not true, and the event on the Campania just didn't last long enough for those bizarre dolls to wear out and collapse. 🤔

[abybweisse]

You've pointed out how Ronald's been dropping hints that Bard may somehow survive, whether via pass or Ada's aid. If Ron ends up passing him because he's needed to stop UT, I wonder if this isn't the 1st time: That is, was Bard 'invincible' because the Superiors ordered the US Dispatch to keep passing him /specifically/ so he'd be around for this mission? Tbh I'd rather this /Not/ be the case, as it goes against this arc's theme of the will to live coming from within, but could it be possible?

Baldo, the saved one?

I suppose it's possible that he's been saved by "shinigami pass" numerous times, just so he can later help defeat Undertaker... but I highly doubt it.

Like you say, it defeats the idea of Baldo having this ability to live through sheer will and guts.

Also, reapers only have so much information (and might not always share it from branch to branch), and I can't really see some reaper showing up to a battlefield in the US but keeping him alive on the vague idea he might be able to help take down a deserting reaper years later, in a faraway land. Until just recently, the reaper organization wasn't even sure Undertaker was the one they were dealing with. If they had known, the superiors should have told Othello, but he didn't know for sure until he saw him; until then, Othello only had a hunch.

I figure, if he gets saved by shinigami pass, it would probably be the first (and likely only) time.

[abybweisse]

Thanks to @fwippysays for tagging me in this post. Very good eye, as I recognized those trousers from here before I even got to where I had been tagged!! 😂

I mean, where is the difference?

Now, according to this article, the image on the left shows daytime coats from circa 1840. The coat in the middle is a cutaway coat, but that’s apparently (from the differences in fabric amounts) not the type of coat Undertaker is wearing.

Undertaker is wearing the trousers in the middle (no notable differences) and pairing them with what is basically an “M notched” lapel frock coat, like the model on the right in the trio. Also like the model on the right, Undertaker is wearing a double-breasted waistcoat (probably silk or satin) with a contrasting lapel (silk, satin, or possibly velvet), a white button-down dress shirt with a vertically tucked/pleated front and upright collar with folded ends, and a cravat tied in a bow (that might also be a “stock tie”, like the model, just with a more narrow band and larger bow... something else that came into fashion in the 1840’s). To be extra fancy, he’s got a ribbon on his top hat that matches the striped lining of his frock coat.

His shoes are probably the simplest part of the outfit: black low-heeled boots with lacing up the front (that front lacing being something else that appeared in the 1840’s) and somewhat pointed toes.

Another article at the same website breaks down the middle and right-hand models’ outfits a bit further. Too bad they don’t specifically discuss the side-buttoned trousers. However, both articles suggest that even though Undertaker’s trousers are high-waisted and somewhat tight-fitting, he might still be wearing (hidden) suspenders under his waistcoat. Oh, the possibilities! 😍

I will have to do more research to get the details on this type of trouser. The article linked above says it’s hard to find examples of trousers that have remained intact (and that makes sense, as people wore out the seats of them, etc.), but since illustrations from the era have survived, there must be more information about them out there. Just need to do more digging....

This has eventually got to be added to my Undertaker cosplay wardrobe. I now consider it imperative.

[ociel-namesuggestions]

Today’s Terrible Bard Name Suggestion is...

Roy Baldroy

or

Bartholomew Roy "Bart Roy" Baldroy

“Because ‘Roy Bardroy’ is such a horrible dad joke of a name that I can totally see going by only your surname if that was the alternative.”

Submitted by @fwippysays

(Mod UT: Your submission came in right after this one and this one were submitted... but before either was posted. So, I just want people to know they were all simply submitted at about the same time. They are different enough for me to accept all of them. Note: I am automatically using “Baldroy” as the last name because that’s how the licensed English translation spells it. Oh, and congrats 🎊 on what appears to be your first submission!)