Listing arguments I hate hearing as a Gwuncan stan
They look like siblings-No. They do not. They're similar in the things they like (Which 2 things were only presented). It's extremely concerning you're saying that to a canon couple who kissed. Numerous times. Talk about weirdos.
Anyways, learn the difference. And I'm assuming that the people who made those stupid claims either have no siblings or is 6-years-old/
So, me being the generous person I am, I decided to highlight. Because as siblings, there must be some similarities in looks, right? -The hair. Duncan has straight (like his father) and Gwen's is more bushy as shown in the picture. -Eye colour. Duncan's is blue/teal and Gwen's is black. -Nose. I know I'm talking about their nose but if you say they look like siblings, I might as well start pointing out their facial features. Their noses are different. -Proportions. Duncan has an extremely larger torso while Gwen doesn't. -Skin colours. Completely different colours. -Eyebrows. Duncan has a unibrow and Gwen's is triangular-shaped (I'm assuming she filled them in or something). -Their styles. He's punk and she's goth. They're not the same and never will be. If this is your argument, reconsider. It's disgusting and repugnant to say this about a couple willingly.
+Aleheather was similar but you don't see them receiving hate. Those goth couples were practically the same person. Why aren'y they receiving hate?
Double standards, much?
The never loved each other- Buddy.. You don't need to say the words to prove love. Especially if they were in the situation they were in.
To further elaborate, they trust each other. Vulnerability. A key part of a relationship. -Sins (In season 1) -Family (Gwen told Duncan her brother's guitar. The family topic could've surely been delved deeper throughout the series) -Relationships (Gwen knows about the picture of Courtney under Duncan's pillow. Gwen confides in Duncan about Trent.) -Dreams (Gwen told Duncan her dream car. She doesn't just go around telling 'Oh I want a Mustang...') These were hinted. Imagine if we could see the rest of their discussions. Next. Gwen gave Duncan a free exit in the Area 51 episode. She told him he can go back to Courtney if he wants to avoid the drama. Does he go back with her? No. he cuts Gwen off by kissing her and even pops his leg out. Those little parts where they're consoling each other. -In their song Gwen was trying to comfort Duncan. -Duncan when trying to make Gwen feel better in the beach episode in TDA. -In the first episode of TDAS and Gwen was shocked at being a villain, Duncan helps her up and is trying to help her. They worry about each other. -In the horror episode, Duncan was the first one worried about Gwen. -When Gwen was about to trip, Duncan's there to help. -In the episode Gwen was about to get eliminated, Duncan was risking himself to take Gwen's place and even supporting her. -In the Greece episode, Gwen was talking about Duncan and then realising that his team was in the elimination ceremony, she rushed there. There even was that little cheer of hers. -In that same episode, Chris makes a joke if Duncan even made it out alive and Gwen was like the most worried about Duncan. -In the Area 51 episode Gwen was like 'try not get eliminated' and Duncan was like 'you too.'. Later in the day, Gwen was sneaking into the elimination ceremony again to make sure Duncan wasn't eliminated. -The following episode, when Gwen's team lost, Duncan looked worried about her and uttering a tiny 'aw crud'. -In TDAS and Gwen was faced by sharks, you could see that small moment of Duncan being worried over her. Loyalty. Duncan stopped flirting with Heather when he was dating Gwen. But the best part is that they were happy. So fucking happy that no one could be happy for them. They had the biggest haters. But that didn't stop them from pursuing their relationship. Acceptance. They accepted the others' aspects. Neither were trying to change the other because they loved the other for it. You want to know how I know this, because they spent more time getting to know each other and 'boring' rather than arguing and being incredibly inconsistent. There's probably more I can't remember. So, I'll move on.
Their development-
That is what development means. As in how their relationship was formed. As in from strangers. As in from season 1 where it took 3 seasons to get together.
What the fuck do you mean they spawned out of nowhere?
They went from strangers to acquaintances to friends to best friends to something more.
It wasn't rushed. Because if that was the case, you don't see me complaining about Duncney. They kissed on the 13th episode on the first season. That was just a couple weeks and the only thing they knew about each other was the bare minimum. That's why they were so incompatible. Their development was sucked ass.
Or Gwent. They started liking each other at first sight. They got to know each other but their writing was so inconsistent. There were so many times Gwen forgave Trent but a couple episodes later, she was mad at him for the same reason. Their development sucked ass as well.
Meanwhile, Gwen and Duncan had waited 3 seasons. That's practically over a year of getting to know each other (depending if Courtney hadn't guarded Duncan's every move after TDA). 52 weeks. That gives them plenty of time to figure out how the other person is. Gives them time to like their faults.
Why is that so hard to understand?
It wasn't random.
It was friendship. Friendship you wouldn't be complaining about if poor, innocent (Absolutely not) Trent and Courtney weren't heartbreaking.
News flash. This is life. This is how relationships go. How toxic relationships go, alright? Don't downplay other relationships because the one you supported sucked. Get over it because your reasoning doesn't make sense.
Their characters were ruined in TDAS- Everyones' was. It wasn't ruined, it was a realistic approach to how they dealt with hate for two years.
Gwen dealt with it worse. Boyfriend kisser? Death threats? Everyone not trusting her? Why do you think she acted like that?
It wasn't random. Her ignoring Duncan wasn't because she lost feelings for him. She was sick of the hate. In the first episode, you could see her confiding in Duncan (which he did a terrible job in for some apparent reason).
Honestly, it was relatable experience. (Coming from experience. Not relationship or what not but like having people hate your guts and teaming up against you)
Then there was Duncan. The guy did not like Courtney.
I'm not sure how many people have to say this but he did not like Courtney. It's so annoying to hear you fans being like 'aw he liked Courtney. Duncney forever!'.
More like Duncney never.
The guy wasn't himself that season. Everyone was humiliating him for being nice. (Which was a good thing. Good development because of Gwen) + the fact that Gwen wasn't paying attention to him and he lost it. He wanted attention.
In fact, you could see him in the confessions shocked at his realisation that Gwen broke up with him for being nice.
HE SAID MAKE MORE GWUNCAN VIDEOS WHEN THEY BROKE UP.
And you're saying he lost feelings.
He cheated on Courtney- Yes. Duncan did. Numerous times so why point out the one time it was because two friends realised they loved each other?
But he wasn't the only culprit. Courtney also was going to cheat. She was about to kiss Justin in front of her boyfriend.
Neither of the two are victims.
But yes, I get it, they cheated but the relationship with Duncan and Courtney was doomed from the start.
Gwen hate is not tolerated ❌❌
Even if you hate the ship because they cheated but it is quite hypocritical if you hate on another character who kissed someone else while in a relationship. I'll list some people you guys should hate if you hate Gwuncan. -Bridgette and Alejandro (Bridgette cheated on Geoff and kissed Alejandro) -Geoff and Heather (Geoff called Heather the hottest girl in the show in front of Bridgette) -Lindsay and Justin (In TDA, she would allow Justin's flirting and gush over him while having a boyfriend, Tyler) -Lindsay and Alejandro (Same thing but in TDWT and she did this in front of Tyler but with Alejandro) -Lindsay and Trent (Buddy was laying on his lap in TDI and Trent was allowing her and calling her beautiful in front of his girlfriend, Gwen) -Trent and Heather (Trent kissed back to Heather when he was dating Gwen) -Beth and Justin (She had a boyfriend and openly admitted that Justin was better than Brady, and allowed his flirting and flirted back) -Duncan and Heather (Duncan flirted with Heather numerous times in TDI and TDA while dating Courtney) -Courtney and Justin (Courtney was about to kiss Justin willingly in front of her boyfriend, Duncan) -Beth and Harold (Beth kissed Harold while dating Brady) -Leshawna and Harold (She was dating Harold (?) and allowing flirting from Justin and Alejandro) So, I've listed quite a few here and obviously these are the more popular characters like Heather, Alejandro, Justin, Courtney, which barely anyone despise. But a lot of people who like those characters hate Gwen for stealing Courtney's boyfriend.
I just want to state that every couple has a different story. Not every couple is going to be formed from cheating or get back together after cheating hence, why no one likes talking about it. As well as the fact that you guys are the biggest hypocrites.
I will say it, I'm justifying for Duncan's cheating. You wanna know why? Because I'm not to admit the fault in his relationship with Courtney.
He was scared of Courtney
She was always in charge and he never got a say because normally that would end up in him getting kicked in the kiwis.
Don't believe me?
"... Just don't tell Courtney I said that." He stated in the confessions in TDA. This was the Top Dog episode or something. He was scared of her and had no way out. So, he voted her out thinking their relationship was over for good.
No. Once he won the money she happily ran over to him and kissed him so they could 'share' their money. Manipulation, gold digging.
Also, there were many times when Gwen was saying they weren't together when they kissed. Have you thought about that maybe Duncan and Courtney broke-up? More typically before Duncan left. Because Duncan was surely not interested in Courtney in TDWT and Gwen and Duncan have a bond. I guess Courtney took that as a joke.
But obviously people don't listen and she gave up trying to tell that they weren't even together.
If that didn't happen, it's because it's meant to be DRAMA. Okay? Stop hating bc it's pathetic hearing your complaints.
Duncan still loved Courtney- No. He never loved her.
He loved how angry she could get. That was what turned him on. If that's what you call love then you've clearly never been in a relationship because that shouldn't be the reason why you love them.
The guy seemed to genuinely like her in 3 scenes. Other than that, it was over her looks and her anger. Not love.
In TDAS, he didn't love her either.
He wanted attention. That's it. It's canon because I fucking said so.
Also because you've seen how he flirted with Courtney for two seasons (Frankly, too much Duncney 🤮). He's the same person. He could've still flirted with her. Especially since him and Gwen broke-up. That doesn't add up, huh?
He doesn't care about Courtney and Scott's relationship.
Attention. That's the only valid reason because he was definitely going through something and no one was paying attention. If they were, it was about how nice he was. He wanted to be a bad boy, not nice.
Guess who he thought would pay attention to him? Courtney.
Because she's like the loudest person ever and surely would punch him or something. This time, that wasn't the case and it would've made him want it more. It wasn't love, it was desire for attention.
And that triggered Gwen because she was focussed on one task. Make amends with Courtney.
And that was the end of Gwuncan.
Did Gwen lose feelings? I hope not but she was really focussed on winning her friend back that she forgot about her boyfriend.
Did Duncan lose feelings? No. He was confused asf about the break-up and seemed really downhearted in that one confession scene. That was to Gwen. Not Courtney.
It is boring- Says mfs who prefer Duncney and Gwent.
Here's Duncney's cycle: Duncan says something, Courtney gets really annoyed, Duncan gets turned on, they make-out, they argue (and Courtney hits Duncan), repeat. Here's Gwent's cycle: They look at each other and blush, Trent does something bad, Gwen is mad at him, she forgives him, later she is mad at him again, Trent does something again, and repeat.
This went on for a whole season for those couples and you're calling Gwuncan boring. Ykw, whatever. Everyone has an opinion but slandering a ship because it is too bland in outrageous. Just say you don't like it. Stfu.
You're just mad that the ppl of your ship weren't happy for the majority of their relationship. Deal with it.
Gwuncan were happy.
I've already explained TDAS situation so I won't delve into that again.
Also, that is a subjective reason to hate and slander a ship. Not everyone thinks that. That's literally 5th grader type of behaviour of the people who use this to make it seem like Duncney and Gwent are superior. They're not. It's called opinions.
Do you want the writers to hold your hand while you tell them that you don't like Gwuncan because it is too boring? You're not the only person watching the show and definitely not entitled to the show.
They're too similar- Absolutely not.
Rewatch the show if you think that. They're just not polar opposites.
No chemistry- Not every couple is yelling or sucking their tongues deep into the others' throats.
You're acting like they're standing there and like: "Hey, you're goth. Date me." "Ok." Buddy no. They did have chemistry. Their chemistry was just being there for each other. Being comfortable. No pressure, no planning, no pookums.
It's refreshing. Not overstimulating as they could be themselves around each other.
Their chemistry was built up. It wasn't like love at first sight like whatever Gwent was.
There isn't a rule book specifying what specific acts you have to do to 'have chemistry'. It's different. Not everyones' is the same and that's the thing about love. It's unique.
Only done for plot- If that was the case, they would've done like how they made Trent and Heather kiss. No build up or anything needed. (Because we already know Courtney overreacts a lot)
So, why did they build the couple up? Enlighten me.
The ship was definitely used for plot but their connection wouldn't have been like they were if it was only used for the plot.
They ruined the others' former relationship- You can't ruin a relationship when it was already ruined.
I'll start off with Gwent.
In the beach episode, Trent had started acting weird. (9 obsessions and Gwen obsession)
While Gwen was worrying about Trent, Duncan suggested a solution for the 9 thing. He wasn't manipulating or forcing her to believe him or trying to wreck the relationship. He was making a possible solution.
Even Harold was as he backed Duncan up that Trent had been acting like this after he figured Gwen liked Trent.
Where is Harold's hate? Harold was helping as well. But noo, Duncan, the big bad guy is the reason why they broke up. He wanted Gwen all to himself, right?
No. It was a solution which seemed reasonable. It was backed up by Harold and Trent's weirdness around Gwen. It wasn't to ruin it.
You know why this happened, because neither of the two could communicate. Guess where that led them? Breaking up.
Now Duncney.
I really don't understand what you guys mean that Duncney was ruined by Gwen because it was ruined the second Duncan had wandering eyes for other people. (Heather and Gwen)
The cheating (Which may or may not actually have been cheating) was just a way to finally end the couple.
Gwen didn't ruin it when Duncan wasn't even interested in the relationship. He was done with Courtney.
The only reason they got back together in Celebrity Manhunt was for the plot.
I feel like I'm justifying the cheating and I'm not but I also am. This was karma. Courtney's karma for the way she treated Duncan in TDA and TDI. Duncan's karma always returned to him but being beat up by Courtney throughout the seasons.
Mb. I didn't realise how much I've typed. Though, I'm sure there's more arguments but I can't really remember. Tell me if I've missed any.
