any time I see someone outside of tumblr have a take on sammy I have to mentally prepare myself because everyone is a sammy misunderstander and im in enemy territory
OMG YES. OUR GIRL IS A COMPLEX CHARACTER DESERVING OF UNDERSTANDING. enemy territory is rxactly right cuz idc thats my girl.
My brother is a sammy hater and it makes me so mad. Ok, not “hater” but disliker. He liked her in CT tho so maybe thats something.
Ik this was supposed to be a neutral blog lmfao but SAMMY GUTIERREZ DEFENDER TIL I DIE!
The second I say my otp everyone starts getting mad when maybe you guys should like... idk??? Chill????
I ship kenrius, and I really feel like its overhated, I mean I can kinda get the incest point of view,,,, kinda??? But at the same time, Kenji was 15 when they met, he was probably only living there for what? 3-4 years? If both of them are adults when you ship them, whats the harm exactly?? Not to mention ITS A FICTIONAL SHIP?!
What happened to ship and let ship?
Anyway time to get attacked in the comments again let's goooooooo-
Not a kenrius shipper but i am very much with you. This fandom is verryyy over attached to its first three popular ships (yasammy, benji, dinostar) witj the exception of my pookies benrius, but shipping culture is not about strict canon adherence. Its about having fun. I hear it used to be way more lax in the past but now people will literally come after otjers for who they ship? Even if its objectively uncontroversial? Like its not that deep?
LONG rant/explanation below so i added a read more thingy. Your welcome.
I am a brokerlynn defender in spite of the controversial age gap. For some reason, brokerlynn is treated with less disgust that kenrius? Not saying there should be any disgust at all but its like, the problematic age gap ship with a trafficker super villain is okay but not the other one because two guys who arent related called each other brothers a few times? Lmfao make it make sense. NO SHADE TO BROKERLYNN FANS BTW I LOVE YALL. Brooke is an adult and toxic yuri all da way!!! I am just very much a “ship and let ship” person. THESE GUYS ARENT REAL!!
I feel like modern fandom culture really overuses incest allegations to attach disgust to ships they dont like!! I see it with dinostar sometimes. People are like “nooo they have such sibling vibes!”
Addressing the Kenrius allegations:
1. The brother stuff is overblown. They arent actually related
2. They did not grow up together and kenji spent a few years livinh with D’s family at the most. You cant tell me D and Kenj have a canon friendship that is significantly different from Ben & Kenji or Ben & Darius. If anything, they are just canonically “closer” or have spent the most time together considering the whole living together thing.
3. People take the brother thing too literal. Men call their friends brothers all the times. Im AFAB and i sometimes refer to my female friends as “sister” or my male friends as “brother.” Do i actually feel the same way about them that i do my actual brother and sister? NO!!
4. Sometimes, people can be in denial of their feelings. My first boyfriend was someone i had known since the 5th grade and was friends with since middle school. I too said “nahhh i dont like him. Hes like a brother to me!!” Spoiler: we ended up dating for a year. Sometimes, when we have feelings that we dont know what to do with or are sfraid of, we try to overcorrect and go to the other extreme to dismiss any possibility of said feelings.
Im not saying everyone who refers to their friends as analogous to siblings are secretly harboring romantic feelings for them. Im just demonstrating that it is a possibility.
5. The brotjer thing can be comphet. Many people are quick to say bengia can be comphet which is a valid interpretation , but that can apply to kenrius too!!
. YOU, kenrius anon, are valued and i respect you and your ship. Keep doing what youre doing and if you ever experience any hate feel free to come vent about it to me.
Aight thanks for coming to my TED Talk people. Ship and let ship!!!
Raptormoms fans need to stop saying “Raptormoms better” on Brokerlynn posts, and Brokerlynn fans need to stop saying “Brokerlynn better” on Raptormoms posts. Like I see this a lot on tiktok and other platforms, not so much on tumblr but it’s genuinely irritating on both sides of the shippers, and this is coming from someone who loves Raptormoms and despises Brokerlynn. Like can we just stay in our silly shipping bubbles and not create unnecessary shipping wars saying one thing is better than the other? 💔😞 Because they’re both equally toxic and unhealthy like can we not come together for our love for toxic yuri instead 💔💔
I had no idea the two fandoms wree beefing lol. Yeah, long live toxic yuri of all flavors .🥨
we as a fandom need to be more comfortable discussing disability - not just Brooklynn's limb difference, but the fact Yaz's ankle is almost certainly prone to pain/dislocations/subluxations/instability (and all the other joints she ran on when they were injured), Ben's anxiety and paranoia, Ben possibly having shoulder and wrist issues from the pteranodons carrying him away in jwcc (his wood armour could be like a wrist brace), Kenji being very casual about a dislocated shoulder (implying he dislocates them regularly, which could be disabling), and more!! this disabled person is telling you to be comfortable giving your characters physical and mental disabilities, talking about them, learning about them - it'll vastly improve our understanding of the world and make us more tolerant people!
I agree! Lots of interesting things to explore here. 🥨
Sammy's crashout in season 3 was warranted, and I think people hate her too much for it. She's the potentially dangerous character who has hit her limit. She's angry and hurt and not going about things logically. She's bottled up too much and that's going to be important to her arc in season 4.
I am SO WITH YOU. Glad other people agree because i saw that most people were takingn Yaz’s side when the season first came out and blamed the breakup on sammy being “unreasonable.” (“Cant she see brooklyns undercover? They have to HELP her!”)
Its like yeah, brooke is undercover but previously , she had been giving campfam every signal that she wanted to backoff and be left alone. Sammy is someone who feels things very deeply. To realize someone she grieved deeply and painfully faked her death is gonna be HARD!
Plus, samy has already delt with a lot of ppl leaving her (her family.) i dont blame her for being hesitant to chase after brooklyn or simply accept her back like nothing changed. And it was less the fact that Yaz disagreed than it was that she was acting as if Sammy’s POV was irrational and invalid. Her being hesitant to trust at first IS realistic i feel. Its funny because in camp Cretaceous, i bet all of us would bet this scenario was flipped between the girls. (Yas hesitant to trust, sammy desperate to forgive)
Im not sure If this counts as a hot take but One óf the writers blocked me in another platform cause I was Talking about the Ya Sammy breakup and how ooc it was because lowkey the breakup WAS ooc.
Yaz would NOT dismiss sammys feelings and try understanding her cause WHAT WAS S3 EP2-5 BRO
If Soyona was a guy, people would have extreme distaste for Soyolynn as a ship because age-gap relationships and pedophilia in general are unfortunately pretty normalized within lgbtqia media. Had Soyona been a male character, the people who do ship Soyolynn would most likely hate it and refer to the ship as weird, and “jokingly” frame Soyona as someone who “likes little girls”, but because she’s a woman, that for some reason means someone who’s barely 19 is perfectly eligible to date someone pushing 40 all because it’s a ship between a woman and another woman. The only defense people have for Soyolynn is “It’s legal”, but what people tend to forget is legality≠morality. Brooklynn is barely 19, and biologically is still a teenager. The concept of her being with Soyona who is way older than her, has a fully formed prefrontal cortex, canonically knew about Brooklynn since Brooklynn was 13, AND refers to Brooklynn as a child/little girl is not only weird in a sense, but is also predatory.
Eh i have a slightly diff take.
First off id be careful saying that pedophelia is normalized in LGBT media. Obviously youll have your fringe outliers or taboo nonsense but this kinda rhetoric is a conservative dog whistle. Gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume u dont have ill intent.
I agree that im sure the fan response particularly on tumblr would be different if soyona was a guy. It would be negative and seen as toxic and weird and develop the same reputation as similar ships. But its different bc shes a woman and thr ship is wlw. Maybe its because wlw dynamics even with an age gap have less baggage and a historical power dynamic? Does that make the discourse more or less valid? Im not sure bc in either case, the entities in question are fictional.
However, as it is legal - i raise u “ship and let ship.” Ya dont have to like it but its not crossing any severe lines and shipping doesnt have to equal morality. Sometimes people like reading about toxic relationships for the character study of it all. I say let people have their fun, whether its soyolynn or whatever toxic m x f ship people think are quick to hate on. Like reylo. I dont like it but idgaf if the girls are having fun. Thasall. Keep it cute kids.
