Selfish Genetics but No AI
As I said, we went to see Richard Dawkins at the Barbican last night. He was being interviewed by Rowan Hooper, a geneticist, New Scientist writer, and the author of Togetherness.
The reason for the event was the celebration of fifty years since The Selfish Gene was published. The talk, as you might expect, was all about genetics, and the book and its effects over the time. Dawkins is amazingly sharp at 85. He impressed me with just how many names he remembered ā of people, books, and species. It was very impressive.
The most interesting part for me was his explanation of what he calls the āextended phenotypeā (also the title of one of his books), which explains how the things organisms build or do form part of the carrier of their genes. For example birds' nests. They are not part of a birdās body ā its phenotype ā but the better a nest is, the better the birdās chances of survival and the passing on of its genes. Other examples include parasites that affect the behaviour of species they inhabit.
As I sat there in the Barbican Hall, which is more familiar to classical music performances, I wondered if humanityās extended phenotype ā or rather weād need a word that matches phenotype at the species level. ā includes the construction of better concert halls, of culture more generally. Thereās an idea there, Iām sure, but Iād need the brain of a Richard Dawkins to formulate it fully
In the second half there was a Q&A. We had to submit questions using the Slido web app, which removed the ability for āThis is not so much a question as a commentā and other long-winded interruptions, but felt a little disconnected. I submitted a question, but didnāt expect it to be used, as it was a big switch from what the event was about, being about Dawkinsās recent thoughts on āAIā (archive.is link), which I wrote about before. Questions were restricted to 160 characters, which seems shockingly short nowadays. I managed to condense mine down to:
You wrote that you believed AIs are alive. If a computer model of the climate is not the climate, is a computer model of some part of a mind a mind?
Which gets at the question, keeps the analogy, but doesnāt quite express all I wanted.
No matter, it was a very enjoyable event, and thereās no way Dawkins has lost his mind.