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yo I’m gold and apparently I had a tumblr I had no memory of making?? I like good kid, trigun, fullmetal alchemist, and pokemon, and I’m a cat sometimes? I’ll probably post art here whenever I feel like it, otherwise this’ll probably be an inactive page besides interacting with some friends from time to time.

cicada vs cicada spiritual group???

Elaborating on something I was confused about in a previous post but didn’t get into- the difference between CICADA and the Cicada Spiritual Group (or maybe lack of one??)

First thing’s first- why do I actually think they’re separate groups?

• The Cicada Spiritual Group throughout the Neo-to website and the Cicada MV seem to be a well respected part of Neo-to, the festival being a beloved part of Neo-to’s community. • This in contract to CICADA, described on the video game manual style-pull out included with the CWHOS vinyls as “provocateurs and cultists by some, and beacons of hope by others…”

• It’s with this where the crux of my theory lies, that CICADA is the more extreme offshoot of the Cicada Spiritual Group

• I think that Ada is involved with both groups, she’s an important spiritual figure in the Spiritual Group and the leader of CICADA.

• The rhetoric we see on her board in the one shot in Eastside is incredibly anti-tech, with stuff such as “armed boy carries death” and “Metal poison against flesh” when referring to Gentu. This would likely put her and whoever she was working with (which, we know this wasn’t a solo mission due to the Kami Gang notes calling them the Nature Freaks plural) against some of the big tech companies and major forces in Neo-to (PsyRen, RoMA, etc)

• On the flip side, the Cicada Spiritual Group seems fine with these large companies and government bodies, actively working with them for the Cicada Festival.

• It’s here that I think the differences between these groups lie. I think CICADA is a more extreme offshoot of the Spiritual Group, which either sprung up due to:

A: opposition of Spiritual Group allowing RoMA and PsyRen to help with the Festival, seeing the help as going against their traditional ways, a small sector of the Spiritual Group splintered and formed CICADA.

B: We know HIRO’s backfiring threw off the internal clocks of the cicadas still nesting in the ground, perhaps after the October 10th incident the Spiritual Group didn’t want to do anything extreme in response to it while those in CICADA, feelings the Spiritual Group’s response lacking, formed their own splinter group to find the origin of the disturbance and destroy it themselves, leading Ada to the whole “stalking and beating up a teenager” thing

thank you for coming to my ted talk next time I’ll do an in depth dissection of the differences between the Neo-to and Alpha Subnet versions of the Neo-trio/RGB trio/Wall Trio/The Gang/The Kids/whatever the hell you wanna call Rebel, Gentu, and Mimi

#good kid #good kid band #Good kid theories #good kid Ada #this is just my speculation

for my next good kid hot take I don’t like when they (or like any western media for that matter) use the term “anime” or “manga” to describe their work

I’m trying to make this not sound like it’s “erm achsully” weeb thing because I promise it’s not, but every time Good Kid calls there MVs “anime” or their music “anime opening” music I cannot help but cringe. It’s MVs for a Canadian rock band that, while both the animation and music have inspirations in Japanese animation and rock, are very much not Japanese. It’s a very unintentional form of orientalism, and while it is well intentioned, does not set well with me all the time. This extends to the random Japanese text they throw onto their merch and such, but at least with the merch it’s not always just Japanese but a range of a bunch of different non-English languages (Spanish and Dutch come to mind first, but the CWHOS vinyl pull out has a bunch of different ones from all over packed into it.)

Anyways, point is when GK advertises its music as “if (blank) was an anime opening” or “an anime opening for someone who (blank)” and their MVs as “anime” it always puts me a little off.

#good kid #good kid band #hot take maybe?#orientalism strikes again #It’s no doubt an unintentional form of it #But still orientalism.

the-meme-monarch

i forgive ada bc she is an important figure to her community and that community evidently has some unsavory beliefs that she was very likely indoctrinated into. i forgive gentu bc he’s like 15/16 years old and mimi looks to have at least kinda forgiven him herself. i continue to make fun of rebel for his part in all of this because i think it’s funny

goldwashere

Gentu’s a teenager with no adult supervision trying to find his way in a world not made for him, Ada’s a girl who has been born and indoctrinated into some bad belief systems, Rebel is just a Fuckin Chud™️

i cannot be the only one that dislikes Gentu and Mimi’s voices

no shade at LilyPichu (100% shade at CdawgVA tho his one piece opinions are shit from the ass) but neither of them are good fits for the characters they play at all. For Lily, her voice is just flat out too high pitched and overly-cutesy for a character like Mimi and CdawgVA is incapable of playing a teenager for his life. The rest of the casting is pretty good though, especially Ada and Wukong.

#Good kid #good kid gentu #good kid band #good kid mimi #These choices were not it dawg idk what to tell you

fandom good kid hot take but more people need to look at Eastside discussion with a touch more nuance

Something I’ve come to notice within the general GK fandom space is a lack of nuance being brought to Eastside and it’s story, especially in relation to Cicada, and the way people will treat Gentu and Ada both.

getting my opinions on Ada out of the way first, i feel many people- intentionally or not- end up becoming split between those who absolutely do not like Ada and are unwilling to look past Eastside and people who love Ada and excuse what she had done in Eastside, and both these perspectives end up removing a lot of the nuance from her character, especially in relation to Cicada. Cicada is neither meant to excuse nor sweep under the rug Ada’s previous actions, as I think it’s what gives us a glimpse into her ACTUAL self, not what the CICADAS/Cicada Spiritual Group (which, if those two things are the same or separate but overlapping groups I’m not all too sure about?) want her to be. She CAN have a soft music loving side to her, just as she has the side which solo’d the Kami Gang and attacked Gentu. She’s a layered character and viewing her as strictly good or bad strips away the different layers to her as a character as a whole. She is allowed to have done terrible things and you can still like her

For Gentu- I believe a lot of people forget a couple of fundamental things about him as a character.

• This Gentu most likely didn’t have a past as Lancashire, for Neo-to and Gentu-OS are largely unconnected. He didn’t start existing one day, he has an actual past this time around.

• He’s a nearly homeless, largely unsupervised teenager in a world clearly not made for him.

• His past in the Kami Gang along with general attitudes makes it clear he likely had a rough upbringing, not having much for good parental figures before Rebel and Mimi- and even then they cannot constantly be there to watch over him.

• He doesn’t actually get Nomu Kid involved with the Kami Gang, as the boxing ring did seem to be sanctioned as there were other regular people spectating the fights along with an actually ref. As for street art, that’s an unrelated passion of Gentu’s which itself is his way of rebelling against the system which he has found himself trapped in.

• He had just been attacked and kidnapped by the people he considered friends when Ada appeared to take HIRO from him- and he had no clue what was happening. For all he knew, she was here to hurt him too and fight or flight reasonably kicked in and he fought back. • He DOES have a disability- his arm, which Ada does seemingly intentionally destroy, as supported by the “metal poison against flesh” on her cork board, along with her complete lack of regard after she DOES destroy it, instead focusing on destroying HIRO’s memory tape and fighting Mimi. Even if HIRO overclocking it may of contributed to its destruction, you can see a jolt of energy go from her bracelet into his arm before it explodes. (also- this is more debatable but you could probably argue the fact her destroying his arm was a direct reference to the moment in Fullmetal Alchemist when Scar destroys Ed’s automail arm is more evidence of it being intentional but that is neither here nor there.)

Treating Gentu having his prosthetic arm being destroyed and the shit kicked out of him by people who he thought were friends and a woman he does not know as “comeuppance” or “punishment” lowkey sucks ass and shouldn’t be viewed that way.

uhhh this is too long already point is- I’m begging people to please treat Gentu and Ada both with more nuance and Ada not as either a terrible monster or perfect girl who can do no wrong and Gentu not as someone who “had it coming” for shit he’s doing for he is in fact a stupid unsupervised 15 year old and sometimes 15 year olds do fuck up and accidentally get involved in bad shit when left without good adult supervision.

EDIT: clarifying that i think the tumblr side of the fandom is better at seeing some of these things with nuance, this is mostly complaining about the sides of the fandom where people will still argue about Ada and/or Gentu- otherwise here is pretty good on all this. yall get a gold star :D

#Good kid #good kid band #good kid gentu #good kid ada #lowkey crashout post sorry #it makes me sad as hell when people write off these characters as exclusively pure and good or evil and bad and not as actual characters #free my boy Gentu #free my girl Ada too but like with some therapy and community service hours

the-meme-monarch

hey. it’s the good kid characters again

explanation for the first one is just that it’s implied good kid The Band the actual people also exist in-universe and. well they have songs called ‘nomu’ and ‘mimi’s delivery service’. which might be moot bc in the Wall music video they are shown at a good kid concert and they have a set list of songs that either don't exist, Aren't Quite the names of their actual songs, or were placeholder names for then-unreleased songs. and in that same mv rebel is writing the lyrics for ‘rift’ iirc. so neo-to good kid might have entirely different songs. but It’s Joke don't take it too serious. also after drawing that i have (albeit partially external) ‘evidence’ of a possible trans reading on gentu. but i thought leaving it as “[idk what to have him say here]” was funny

anyway the third is that spongebob bit, the fourth is from the snapcube realtime fandub rude mountain, and the last one is a tiktok !

#MIMI SHES SO PRETTY #I LOVE HER #WIFE!!!#trans fem Mimi my beloved