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people will listen to SJM say she writes happy endings and that nessian are true mates, that nature got their bond right, and STILL bend over backwards theorizing that cassian will die and nesta will end up with eris. you just have to laugh
ACOTAR propaganda I won’t be falling for
• Rhysand is evil (get a life)
• Nesta is the worst thing to happen to the series (get a life)
• anti inner circle discourse (stop reading the books if you hate the main characters)
• elriel (obvious reasons)
• the Valkyries couldn’t have won the blood rite (they did)
• c-sections aren’t real
• neris. (Stop pissing me off)
Can we actually talk about how 80% of Nesta “fans” would rather Nesta be with man who is canonically racist and misogynistic over her own mate who dedicates his entire career to fighting for Illyrian women’s rights. I’m gatekeeping Nesta atp 😭
Her own mate...who found it funny when she fell from the stairs, didn't react as a mate when Rhys threatened to kill his mate, and actually forced and made her suffer to the hike... mhm...
But Eris is misogynistic to who???
Oh god here they come
Fr. Here they come again!!! They don’t care that Nesta hates Eris. They’d rather her be depressed with Eris than happy and content with Cassian because Cassian holds her accountable for her behaviour and she realised and even appreciated that by the end.
“Cassian made her suffer through that hike” the same way Rhys made Feyre “suffer” at the hands of the weaver. The same way Rowan made Aelin “suffer” by doing pretty much everything she didn’t consent to in HoF. Normal mate behaviour that they forgive other male characters for, especially Rowan, but not Cassian (who didn’t even do anything bad to Nesta the same way Rhys and Rowan did to their mates.)
And I think it’s so funny that they don’t even question Eris’ racism, because he so obviously is, only his misogyny because they believe that slut shaming isn’t misogyny since it was directed at Mor. Like Mor or not, misogyny is still not ok!!!
not to mention that canonically (thus far at leas) eris does NOT defend his mother against the physical abuse she experiences from his father. he is literally Tomas in fae form (aside from the sexual assault)
Everytime someone tells me about the “chemistry” in the neris dance scene I side eye. Like your “fav girl” Nesta was faking how she felt/how she acted while dancing with eris so Rhys’s plan would work and she managed to gaslight 70% of her fans along with eris 💀
this is literally stated over and over and over and over by nesta in her POV in that chapter and the subsequent chapters.
like ship who you want i guess but you’re literally grasping at straws saying they had chemistry and thinking nesta would even entertain the idea of eris as a partner. you’re wrong lol straight up
Thoughts on Nessian on my reread of ACOSF
I’ve seen many people say that they were sad that Cassian didn’t say I love you to Nesta. Despite being a huge romantic, this didn’t even occur to me whilst reading ACOSF for the first time. I’m currently on my third re-read and having a six month gap between reads has yet again allowed me to pick up on nuances and lines from Cassian that really prove my point in not being dissatisfied with this.
To be honest, the phrase that comes to mind is inspired by @vidalinav Nessian series “Nesta’s love is quiet,” but I want to argue that Cassian’s love is quiet, too.
There are so many small gestures and emotions that flash across Cassian’s face during the course of the book which make me realise that Cassian doesn’t have to say I love you in ACOSF—it’s just there, silently lapping in a really, truly beautiful way throughout the story. For example, Cassian’s siphons glint when Nesta mentions that a monster tried to eat her in the library: a subtle nod at the magic leaping at his veins to protect her at any signs of threat. It’s also there in the way his hands shake as he rolls up his leather jacket, terrified she’ll not agree to train with him and will continue to make herself ill. It’s there when Cassian looks down at Nesta when she’s offers a slice of herself, admitting that the training and breathing makes her thoughts less loud, and all he says, this beautiful male, is “ah, me too.”
I’d expected Cassian to be a territorial male when it came to his mate, but to be honest, what we actually see if this great, respectful restraint. Cassian loves Nesta so much he tortures himself by holding back from revealing his true feelings, not once giving in to what he wants because he knows Nesta is not ready. He disappears after the bond snaps into place because he knows it will freak her out—a huge, monumental sacrifice to himself. It’s almost as if Cassian is such a hulking warrior, that he doesn’t need to expend this bravado at being territorial. Not when it comes to Nesta. Not when he knows she won’t like it.
Yes, Cassian isn’t perfect. He snaps and says things that he shouldn’t. Sometimes I’d have liked him to stand up for Nesta (against Amren and Rhys in particular). But Nesta bites at Cassian as well, far more frequently. They speak in the heat of the moment—saying things they don’t mean. I think they both recognise that in each other, especially as the story progresses and we get to the “we’re mates for fuck’s sake.” And that’s my point: both of their love is quiet, underlying even their arguments and when Nesta is driving him away. It’s just there, this never ending stream that’s gentle and loving underneath everything else that is often chaotic and playful and biting. They don’t need huge outpours of prose. They just love one another in a simple way that’s really just beautiful to witness. And that undercurrent is what breaks down Nesta’s icy facade when she finally cries. I’ve seen some people comment that Cassian pressures Nesta into agreeing that they won’t be with anybody else in the Solstice scene, but that’s not it at all. It’s this knowledge that they both have—this ability to read one another from a single glance. That’s what makes them mates. It’s what makes them perfect for each other—finally a worthy opponent.
my hot take as to why the acotar fandom is a shit show is because too many people with english degrees infiltrated and cannot read a book simply to enjoy it, they must pick it apart and analyze it to the point of just tearing it, the characters and the author apart. and gullible people adopted that same mindset.
in simpler terms: too many people take it way, WAY too seriously lol. like this series is meant for entertainment. sarah didn’t write classic literature with underlying themes on morals and society that’s meant as think pieces. y’all do too much and can never just enjoy things. you’re like the cinephiles that cannot just watch a movie for entertainment purposes, you need citizen kane otherwise you’re shitting on everything because it’s not up to your snobbish standards
a handful of people respond to this like “wELL aCTuaLLy mEdiA IS suPpOsEd to Be AnAlyZed!”
if you’re OVER analyzing media to the point where it’s all you do, you break down every little piece and take things out of context and project your own opinions and assumptions onto it when it’s clearly not what was intended at all - what’s the point? who is that fun for?
now me, i can’t count how many shows ive watched since its conception and started to hate due to poor writing and character developments. you know what i did then? i stopped watching and consuming that media, despite how many years i put into enjoying it.
i agree media is more or less subjective and not all consumers of that media take away the same things
but yall do too fucking much with SJM books. you take explicitly stated texts and twist them to fit your own narrative depending on whether you like or hate a character
and i think it’s weird and annoying. but hey if you wanna do that, that’s fine. but most of y’all project it onto other consumers and try to force your ideologies on them…and that’s a problem.
these books were made for entertainment. you can’t argue that. either you’re entertained or not, leave the ones who are entertained alone.
the fandom is intolerable for a reason
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I love all the things you say about Nessian, I agree on every single thing you say and I'm so happy to know that there's someone else that ship them the same way I do. Thanks 😭❤️
This fandom is illiterate.
❤️ i feel the exact same way when i read your posts about them! i really only joined tumblr again after so long to get my nessian fix after finishing the series because i missed them so much…then i looked through their tag thinking ill find cute fanart and fics and i see sooo much hate and i was so confused. i’ll never understand it but im glad to find people who feel the same way i do
i re-read ACOSF every now and again, and each time i get more confused about how anyone can finish this book and think: 1. nessian aren’t endgame; 2. cassian doesn’t love nesta; 3. eris and nesta have chemistry or even a chance at being anything. its a genuine lack of literacy.
as if nesta doesn’t CONSTANTLY say throughout the middle and end of this book how she wants to be with cassian forever. how after she talks about them “making love.”
how every single interaction she has with eris, her thoughts go back to cassian. how she has to force herself to not kill eris when he insults cassian. how at their last meeting where Cassian makes Eris look like a fool, she’s so proud of him and smug and literally turned on.
how eris asks about his offer and she thinks “Not one ounce of affection or longing laced in his words.” read that line again. keep reading it. he didn’t want to marry her for any reason other than to get back at cassian for ruining his betrothal to mor and out of sheer hate for him and spite.
how at the end with Briallyn when cassian is being controlled by her, she thinks: “the weight of him, once so intimate and loving,” L O V I N G.
like it literally says as he’s trying to fight the crowns hold on him as he is ordered to kill her: “Pleading shown in his eyes. Pleading and fear and - and love. Love she did not deserve, had never once deserved, but there it was. Just as it had been there from the instant they’d met.” HES ALWAYS SHOWN HE LOVES HER AND SHE FUCKING KNOWS THIS! THATS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT
then: “Nesta let her mate see the love shining in her face…Nesta had loved Cassian since she’d first laid eyes on him. Had loved him even when she did not want to, even when she had been swallowed by despair and fear and hatred. Had loved him and destroyed herself because she didn’t believe she deserved him, because he was all that was good, and brave, and kind, and she loved him, she loved him, she loved him”
“Cassian’s arm shook, and Nesta braced herself for the blow, showing him her forgiveness, her unending, unbreakable love for him” wait, what’s that? UNENDING and UNBREAKABLE? interesting. then right after this, cassian breaks free of the crowns hold of his own free will and chooses to kill himself instead of being forced to kill his mate. he literally broke mind control from the dread trove
but i’m supposed to believe it means something that he doesn’t repeat the words she said to him? i’m supposed to believe they’re gonna break the bond? i’m supposed to believe she’ll end up with eris? give me a break lol.
this is why i don’t think yall actually read these damn books and if you do you just twist it to fit your preconceived negative opinions.
Of Broken Wings and Promises Chapter 2
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Cassian’s head was buzzing.
Wherever he was, it was dark. The fae lights were dim enough to have allowed him to fall asleep on the sticky floor beneath his fingertips. He didn’t want to know what was on that floor.
“Where is he?” asked a familiar voice from across the room.
Silence followed, and the source of the voice sighed. Then, before he could he could open his eyes to see who had woken him up from the wood that dug into his back, and into the sensitive membranes of his wings, the sound of footsteps echoed and two sets of hands hauled him off of the floor.
“Thank you, Marcus.” Rhys’ drawl sounded from right next to his ear, and the male on his other side was silent. Azriel, then. His brothers supported him wholly between them, one of his arms around each of their shoulders, and they walked him out into the chilled, early morning air.
“You never get any lighter, do you, Cass?” Rhys said, grunting under his weight.
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Read the rest on ao3
"You don't even know who your mom is Cassian"
Pulling a "your mama" roast at a fictional character is embarrassing 🩷 and have you EVER thought WHY he didn't even know his mom? His mom that was raped? Worked to death? His mom whose body they threw off a cliff and didn't say anything to Cassian?
Why do people collectively forget Cassian’s mother was raped? Why do people forget he was stolen from his mother and thrown into a war camp? Why do people forget his mother was literally worked to death and killed by her rapists and abusers?
He—just like every character in this series—has trauma, trauma that gets undermined because people remind him as a himbo from him acting goofy as his trauma response.
"...oh but wELL HE KILLED A WHOLE VILLAGE AND DESERVES TO DIE—"
If you truly read the books before sharing your opinions on them you would have known why he killed them—and it wasn't even a whole village. The only people who he killed were the men that RAPED his mom. The women weren't harmed.
Canon Cassian isn't the one who's talking if he's being accused of being an abuser and said to be deserving of death, no it's your victim mentality.
People constantly forget that Cassian has been through just as much trauma as anyone else (and it’s because he hides his feelings with humor) and deserves the right to “act out” on that trauma or have feelings of doubt regarding himself. His lashing out at others was when he slaughtered those men who worked and abused his mother to death, the same men who snatched him out of her arms and threw him to the war camps. Then you have the audacity to make fun of him for being a product of rape-to make fun of his mother for being a victim of rape/abuse-just because you’re pressed Nesta had to get sober 😐…
Here is a link to the interview clip where SJM clears says Hunt is Bryce's endgame for anyone who may need it ....
Please spare Az from people who already have mates !!!!
so many people’s “theories” would be debunked if they actually did research and listened to what the literal author says…but they don’t they act like she’s wrong lol
"It's not about racism!!" Then why are they twisting canon and cutting things out of context to make the poc characters look like abusers/assaulters but will bend over backwards to defend the white characters that are, IN CANON, abusers? Why is amarantha—A WHITE CHARACTER— defended by these people who say that she didn't SA rhys—a poc character? Why do they scream that Tamlin/Eris are better than Rhys/Cassian? They can say that they are poc also but that doesn't mean that they can't be racist of poc. There are plenty of people who are racist of their own race.
!!! exactly lmao. i deleted my post because i do not care enough to go back and forth with them and try to make them see their discrimination.
you can like whatever characters even if they’re canonically bad villains, but if you’re twisting canon to make it seem like the white villains are misunderstood and deserve redemption, and make the poc who are the protagonists of the entire series seem like evil scum with no redeeming qualities , yes it feels fucking racist. and if you get offended by that, that’s your personal problem lol
also as soon as i saw them say rhys and cassian are abusive i laughed out loud and deleted the post because it’s just insane lol i know sjm would laugh seeing that as well
"It's not about racism!!" Then why are they twisting canon and cutting things out of context to make the poc characters look like abusers/assaulters but will bend over backwards to defend the white characters that are, IN CANON, abusers? Why is amarantha—A WHITE CHARACTER— defended by these people who say that she didn't SA rhys—a poc character? Why do they scream that Tamlin/Eris are better than Rhys/Cassian? They can say that they are poc also but that doesn't mean that they can't be racist of poc. There are plenty of people who are racist of their own race.
!!! exactly lmao. i deleted my post because i do not care enough to go back and forth with them and try to make them see their discrimination.
you can like whatever characters even if they’re canonically bad villains, but if you’re twisting canon to make it seem like the white villains are misunderstood and deserve redemption, and make the poc who are the protagonists of the entire series seem like evil scum with no redeeming qualities , yes it feels fucking racist. and if you get offended by that, that’s your personal problem lol
See I may not be mors biggest fan but I will attack the eris stans who demonize her to uplift him
i am convinced that nesta and mor will be good friends by the end of the series, especially if emerge and mor get together. nest and mor are gonna be like aelin and lysandra, hating each other initially then growing into a nice friendship. they’re already amicable by the end of acosf
Y'all are so disgusting.
Ruining the comment section with all your "they're not endgame", "he abused her", "their bond is cursed", "Nesta isn't happy", "in that bonus chapter he stands with Rhys"
THE ACTUAL FREAK?
Can't enjoy a FANART in peace?
You HAVE to LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW STUPID YOU ARE?!?!
I will laugh in ten years when Nessian will still be a couple.
he literally does not side with Rhys in the bonus chapter lmao
Let me say that Eris, a good dancer, isn't able to distract Nesta Archeron from the music. He's not interesting enough to get her attention🤭.
Eris isn't even able to make Nesta react genuinely, without having her faking it. And he didn't even notice that she's faking everything. (He's so looser while she's so good).
Nesta forget the music in the exact moment Cassian gets ready to dance with her. She can only focus on Cassian.
She smiles spontaneously, it came from her heart, she didn't fake the smile that blooms in her face as soon as she starts dancing with her mate.
Cassian may not be the greatest dancer, but his presence alone is enough to warm Nesta's heart, to make her joyful and loved. He's so good that she thinks he is the most beautiful thing in existence, when before she thought it was the music.🥰
Eris dear, you should learn a thing or two from Cassian. Starting from manners...
i’m the biggest neris anti because those fans are insufferable and flat out dumb. nesta HATES that man lol. she literally wants to kill him for being mean to cassian.
i’ve seen people say that dance scene had more chemistry than everything nessian…like? you literally did not read it then. every interaction she has with him in that scene is fake on her part. she’s playing him and she says this in her POV again and again and again and again. but you think it’s real?
he also literally wants to BUY her? how is that romantic? he reminds her of the snobby rich people who turned their backs on the archerons when they lose their wealth. he is closer to Thomas than anyone else, considering he doesn’t do anything to prevent his father from abusing his mother.
it truly is so annoying to see people blatantly ignore canon in favor of their fanfiction and wishes for a couple that does not, and will never, exist. it’s more annoying because they act like they’re correct and talk down to everyone else
people might “it’s not that deep” this but i think it’s concerning the amount of hate feyre has been getting in the last few years.
it used to be really popular to criticize tamlin, now new readers wont allow folks to say fuck tamlin without ten of his annoying fans being like “but rhys did this” “but feyre was mean :(“ “he deserves a redemption arc”
the rise of misogyny and victim blaming in this fandom normalizes this behavior irl. would you see an abused woman who talks back to her abuser, he shows physical violence towards her, and tell her “well you knew he would react that way. why would you provoke him?? YOU’RE THE MANIPULATIVE ONE.”
especially with the rise of alt-right talking points on tiktok, conservatism, and misogyny. you can’t convince me there isn’t a problem with the way people hate on feyre to prop up her abuser.
acotar and acomaf chronicle feyre’s journey through being a lonely girl who falls in love with a man that promises her safety when she’s never known that, and then becomes controlling and wants to hide her from the world and disempower her. it’s not up for debate. it’s not subtle, it’s very on the nose for an abusive relationship. tamlin didn’t just change over night, you were viewing him through feyre’s rose colored glasses.
when i re-read acotar, i was struck by the fact that feyre and tamlin had maybe two serious conversations where they got to know each other before they were in love. feyre has more serious conversations with rhys in acotar and is able to be herself way more with him, and she notes that herself.
it’s scary to see how misogynistic female dominated spaces in book fandoms can really get, especially with misogyny on the rise in young men. does thinking that eris or tamlin are interesting mean you hate women? no, but when you hate on their victims and treat them noticeably more charitable than you do for female characters it does!
it’s crazy because you get so many people who shit on the MAIN characters, the PROTAGONISTS (literally every single one of them: rhys, feyre, nesta, cassian, mor, amren, azriel, elain) these books focus on for the dumbest things and they twist canon to back up their ridiculous takes
but will go to the mat defending secondary characters we know to be antagonists (tamlin and eris) like its fanfiction they make up. its literally fanfiction. but you get impressionable new readers who see this and start to question if they should listen to all of that.
my hot take as to why the acotar fandom is a shit show is because too many people with english degrees infiltrated and cannot read a book simply to enjoy it, they must pick it apart and analyze it to the point of just tearing it, the characters and the author apart. and gullible people adopted that same mindset.
in simpler terms: too many people take it way, WAY too seriously lol. like this series is meant for entertainment. sarah didn’t write classic literature with underlying themes on morals and society that’s meant as think pieces. y’all do too much and can never just enjoy things. you’re like the cinephiles that cannot just watch a movie for entertainment purposes, you need citizen kane otherwise you’re shitting on everything because it’s not up to your snobbish standards
