In FRESH FACES, our new series dedicated to rising and student artists, we took some time to sit down with recent graduate and rapper Miles Braxton, known as Milo Case, to discuss his upbringing, music, and what it takes to be a student artist.
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Here’s this semester’s capstone podcast, a discussion among SHHO Content about remembering Lil Peep, Meek Mill, new artists and violence in hip-hop, from beef to tekashi69.
It’s been a minute since the magical night of music that was “A Concert For Charlottesville.” Scott Stadium has emptied, its now exposed field showing no signs of the massive soundstage complex it once harbored. Its stands now deserted, no longer containing crowds of people that call Charlottesville home. Outside the flyers and posters have all come down or blown off, replaced with news of events soon to come.
That night was a showcase of something immensely special, something that not just the people of Charlottesville, but the people of America need more than ever at present. Behind all of its glitz, glamour, and a-list surprise guests, there was a distinctly human compassion. A call for unity, strength, and understanding of those around us, an assurance that things could be okay.
People from all walks of life could find solace in the message and performances of that night. Whether it be in the softly spoken and deeply personal monologues of Dave Matthews and the poetry of Matt Shultz. Or the booming, soulful display of black excellence on the part of The Roots, Brittany Howard, and Bilal. Even the clublike light shows and dancing backers of the evening’s star studded pop performers seemed to take on an effervescent feeling of meaning far beyond the norm. Coming together into a moment of pure energy and togetherness that can’t be easily forgotten.
And yet, this unwavering moment in time has unfortunately passed, the evils of the world which it worked against remain for us to return to. Tragedy, lurching into view on the shoulders of mass violence like the horrifying shootings in Las Vegas. Division, sounding off to the tune of our own national anthem as it seems to drain empathy and compassion from the American people. The United States remains just as much a battleground today as it was during the confusing chaos of the Charlottesville riots.
But though we may not still exist in that moment of unity, it does not mean that we should let it go forgotten. It is important now more than ever that we cling to the ideas and message of that night, not letting its thoughts be so easily swept away. In the face of world which seems to be pulling itself apart, the words and feelings of unity that night invoked should serve as more than a faint memory. They should be a place of solace and inspiration as we tackle everyday struggles of life today. A reminder, that no matter what tragic direction our world may turn to, we as a people are not alone.
CHECK THE RHIME - An Interview with J-Willz, Keese, & Sondai
Our annual local hip-hop showcase, Check the Rhime, is coming up this Tuesday at the Southern. We spoke with the artists, Sondai, Keese, and J-Willz, to see what they’re currently working on, their influences, and how Virginia ties all into it. If you’re not familiar, we also mixed some of our favorite tracks together on our Soundcloud. Check it out:
On current projects
Sondai: I've just been focusing on the follow-up project to my last album, Wallflower. I might make into a mixtape or a short EP. I'm going for a different sound this time around. So far I have about 40 songs laid down which is the easy part, now I just have to decide which ones to put on the tape. It's gonna be pretty dope once it's put together.
Keese: I'm currently working on another EP, no official release yet. But I do have some new videos out and will be releasing a new single soon.
J-Willz: I'm just recording a bunch of music. Me and Trauma Tone are working on a bunch of stuff, I think a Lee Willz 3 will drop soon, more covers for Youtube. Just expect a lot of music, back to back.
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On favorite artists
Keese: My favorite artist now would have to be J. Cole. His music really inspired me to go harder with this music. My favorite all time is Nas.
Sondai: My favorite artist has always been Jay-Z for many reasons. The fact that he was able to walk the line between mainstream appeal while still maintaining his musical integrity is crazy to me especially in his early days. I'm always gonna choose older era rappers over new school rappers though there are exceptions. It's all determined by the mood I'm in honestly. I can go from listening to Wu-Tang then find myself throwing on some Uzi, it all depends how I'm feeling.
J-Willz: I feel like my favorite artist right now is PnB rock, he just got that vibe-to music that I F wit. As far as from different eras, I was listening to Big Pun today... Lil Wayne of course, G-Unit, Ludacris, Jagged Edge, Lupe Fiasco, Bow Wow, Jay-Z... the list goes on. I listened to all the greats coming up.
On Virginia’s sound
J-Willz: I guess it has influenced me to be original, and speak about what I see going on. I think our location pulls from the North as far as lyricism and pulls from the South as far as production. I just took what I heard and made it my own.
Sondai: Well being originally from New York and having my musical roots based there for so long, Virginia added a new perspective for me which in turn influenced the type of music I make, from the beats to the content. It just added another color to the canvas for me.
Keese: It's not a big music scene but it's definitely growing and I'm happy to be apart of it. If we keep going in the direction we're going, eventually something big is gonna happen!
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On influences outside of music
Keese: Michael Jordan is definitely an influence. People only see his accomplishments, but they don't know about his struggle coming up and how he was cut from his high school basketball team. He overcame a lot and now he's considered the greatest player ever, that's definitely inspiring.
J-Willz: I’m influenced by icons, like Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart, Gary Vee… Anybody that’s going hard with their craft, or at least trying and succeeding probably influences me.
Sondai: There's a lot of people outside of music that I would cite as influences. Random people who I have conversations with, friends, people who do what they love to do, who have a passion. Everybody influences everybody in some way.
On what life would be like without music
J-Willz: I would probably be trying to be a dope engineer, recording other artists, mixing and mastering Wayne’s Carter 5 and shit. Or I would be in concert production, making the graphics for big artist screens while they're performing.
Sondai: Regardless if I make a million dollars or if I don’t, I would still do music. Maybe not in the same context, I might switch back over to the poetry side of it, but without any of that I would be a different person. Writing music is like always having somebody to talk to. It's like the paper always listens, there's no judgement.
Keese: I really can't answer that. I couldn't imagine life without making music.
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Check out our playlist on Spotify, featuring sounds from J-Willz, Sondai, and Keese.
The Past, The Present, and Future: The Sound of Nayvadius Wilburn’s Declining Mental State
In a 2011 interview with an Atlanta radio station, rapper Nayvadius “Future” Wilburn was offered a career-defining question by the personality sitting across from him. “When it comes to you, as Future,” radio host B-High began. “What is it you want to bring to the Atlanta music scene that we haven’t already seen before?” The question came in lieu of the fact that despite having a chart-topping single in his writing and feature on rapper YC’s “Racks,” and releasing two mixtapes in the months prior to the interview, Future hadn’t yet completely distinguished himself from Atlanta artists who had the flame of their early careers smothered. “Stadium music, music with melody, something with a whole different feel.” Future replied after a short pause. “I just go off the vibes, it just has to grow with me.”
The idealism of his musical aesthetic being attached with growth as an individual soon set a precedent on the sonic and lyrical trajectory of Nayvadius Wilburn’s music. Life experience served as the most influential aspect of Future’s discography, and negative or positive “vibes” best serve as an indicator for his work’s persona. Future’s music would gradually depart from the utopic “stadium music” aesthetic and seep into a sound that was much more based around raw emotion, not necessarily a sound that was supposed to invoke emotion from a listener, but a sound that was much more telling of Future’s emotional state at the time of a song’s recording. Future’s sudden departure from an artist that meshed elements of cheery pop songs with trap music mirrored his departure from happiness. The subject matter and aesthetic in Future’s projects from 2011 until the present demonstrate the impact of his sudden rise to fame, the onset of a traumatic criminal history, the status of relationships with various women and his children, and the detrimental effects of copious drug usage.
Soon after the release of the mixtape consistently referred to in the interview between Future and B-High, “Dirty Sprite,” Future went on to release a mixtape titled “True Story.” The mixtape would include several of his more notable hits, like “Magic,” “Ain’t No Way Around It,” and “Tony Montana.” Lyrically, the songs are all predicated around a repeating chant based on the title of the song, making use of “economic” verbiage within a limited amount of beat. (Caramanica) This economic usage of lyrics would ensure the probability that these songs would become popular as a result of their simplicity and memorable world structure. With the exception of the choral arrangement on the intro to the mixtape, Future sings the choruses with assistance of a, while still minimal, noticeable dosage of autotune. Autotune had been proven throughout the past decade as an ingredient that could help distinguish one’s music from others, if used correctly. Future’s usage of auto tune throughout his early career took on an innocent appearance, as his voice was mastered a pitch above normal, assuming a lighthearted, radio friendly presence not completely parallel to the subject manner within the mixtapes. Future’s intent to solely separate himself from other rappers, as opposed to complete vulnerability through production and lyricism demonstrated a mental condition that wasn’t plagued by external issues. In comparison to later works, his voice was objectively less garbled, more upbeat, and characterized by the intermittent addition of a singing tone.
Production on Future’s first three mixtapes, including the two that preceded “True Story,” titled “Dirty Sprite” and “1000,” was much far less abrasive than much of the mixtapes circulating around the hip-hop scene, and even farther less abrasive than the mixtapes being released in Atlanta. Tity Boy’s (2Chainz) “Codeine Cowboy,” Alley Boy’s “Definition of F**k S**t,” and Waka Flocka and French Montana’s “Lock Out” were three Atlanta-based mixtapes defined by their abundant usage of 808s and subwoofer-shaking bass. (Richards) Throughout the years 2011 and 2012, Future’s mixtapes made usage of the crooning synthesizers and horns of producers like Mike Will Made-It, Will A Fool, and Zaytoven. The lack of abrasive, harsh production that typically defined Atlanta hip-hop artists during Future’s early career demonstrated a stark contrast between him and other artists. Future’s early work did not include darker, depressive subject matter like his later work. The hybrid formulation of a pop aesthetic with the “trap” lyrical themes would lead to a rapid rise of success for Nayvadius. The first three mixtapes would aid Future in reeling in a major label offer from Epic Records, and much commercial success.
The advent of newfound fame and fortune meshed with upgraded production value on his next project, titled “Streetz Calling.” The first track on the mixtape, “Made Myself a Boss,” used production from Zaytoven that maintained a bubbly and light-hearted tone. Much like the rest of the mixtape, the song uses celebratory anecdotes to remark at the success of his previous projects. “I paid my grandma’s rent/and got my little sister a house,” he urges. “I keep a pocket full of money every time I step out.” While his previous mixtapes fondly reminisced on his days of drug dealing, or combined elements of pop songs with Atlanta trap music, “Streetz Calling” would represent the merriest of work Future would release in the period from 2011 to 2015. The most observable example of this phenomenon would come on the third track of “Streetz Calling,” titled “Same Damn Time.” In a testament to his happiness, Future experimented with a slight departure from the formula that made him so popular: a chorus where his voice was not mastered to a higher pitch. Instead, he barks at the listener in an exaggerated version of his already grizzly voice: “I wear Gucci, I wear Bally, at the same damn time/Selling white, selling mid, at the same damn time.” Much like the subject matter where Future’s song character is that of a drug dealer that buys too much designer clothing, and sells too many drugs, Future was experiencing the byproduct of too much early success. The same departure was observable through the instrumentalism of “Same Damn Time,” which used a drum pattern and bass that typically would be considered too egregious for his earlier work. Future’s dialogue with the listener would assume its most celebratory form in this late 2011 period.
Future grew up in the Kirkwood backstreets of Metro Atlanta, an area that was especially hard hit by the crack epidemic of the 1980s. Many of his aunts and uncles were affected by an addiction to crack cocaine. At the age of seven, Wilburn saw the murder rate in his hometown practically double over a summer. Years later, he was shot in the hand while attempting to sell drugs to make ends meet. (Winegarten) The gradual traumatic effects of this upbringing would creep onto his next project, “Astronaut Status.” Despite attempts to continue to continue the formulaic pop-structure that made him so popular, the influence of a criminal history and traumatic upbringing would influence Future’s sound from 2012 onwards. In a 2012 interview with Rolling Stone, Future stated: “When I was in the streets, I ain’t never think about that, man, f**k tomorrow, n***a, let’s do this s**t today,” he says. “I’m a f****g rock star, dogg. I’m enjoying this s**t, I ain’t trying to remember yesterday.” (Winegarten) His attempt to abandon his history would cause the traumatic sound to be repressed, and only become relatively minimally apparent on “Astronaut Status” in comparison to his later works. While some songs abided by many of the same themes as his earlier work, the lyrical content on “Deeper than the Ocean” and “Itching” represented two notable examples Future’s failure to completely repress the demons of his past. On “Deeper than the Ocean,” Future recites: “My n***a set my n***a up/this game is full of madness,” in memoriam of his status as a dealer in the drug “game.” “Sometimes I want to get inside my Escalade and crash it/my pain is running deeper than the ocean.” The inclusion of suicidal ideations on the song as a result of the stresses of drug dealing was a telling indicator of Future mental state. On “Itching”, Future compares a side-effect of crack withdrawal, itching, to his pursuit of money: “My fingers, they itching, they itching for that paper” he chants. The production on the song is muted, composed of a single lead synth and hi-hat pattern provided by producer Mike Will Made-It. Future’s willingness to draw from his murky past while simultaneously attempting to repress it marked a turning point in his mental state, and therefore the sound of his music.
In January 2013, rumors began circulating that Future was dating artist Ciara. During this time, Future released “FBG: The Movie” in preparation for a then unnamed upcoming album. The mixtape would see a return to the song structure that marked many of his successful early singles, like “B***hes Love Me.” On the song, Future was on chorus duty, reprising his familiar auto tune pitch to talk about the benefits of his sexual prowess, marijuana, and strong alcohol. The coincidence between this return to the pop structure and his relationship with Ciara was evident throughout the entire work. On “Fo Real,” he referred to Ciara: “I met that girl and had to spoil her, cause that girl’s so loyal/I met her when she was a dime and turned her into a quarter.” The note Future sung the lyrics in is higher than the rest of the song. Where the instrumental mostly occupies the tuning note of “B,” Future sings the lines referring to Ciara in a “C to C Sharp” scale, demonstrating his happiness about being with her.
Future’s 2014 album “Honest” would serve as the denouement as the story between Ciara and Future. On the album, tracks “I Won,” “I Be U,” and “I’ll Be Yours” serve as straightforward love songs in reference to Ciara. Future and Ciara were engaged just months earlier, in October 2013. A month before the album’s release, in March 2014, he announced that the two were expecting a baby boy. (MTV News) The restabilization of his mental condition in light of his love for Ciara was directly reflected in the subject manner on “Honest.” The three tracks feature Future singing the entire time, going into great detail about his habit of spoiling Ciara, and the continued commitment to a relationship with her. Future’s vocals were mastered at a high volume, giving the listener an “honest” exposition to Future’s psyche. Unlike previous projects, Future did not make mumbling or garbled language a deliberate part of the odes to Ciara. Instead, clear, elaborate language made up the bulk of the lyrics, marking a departure from the catchiness of his earlier works. Drug innuendos comprised less of all three songs in comparison to the songs on mix tapes past, instead focusing on the characterization of love. Future penned and sung the chorus to a song titled “Loveeee Song,” a song featured on Rihanna’s album, “Unapologetic.” The song paid homage to aforementioned characterization.
In August 2014, just three months after the birth of their son, Ciara and Future broke up. The effect on his music that this had was near immediate. He released three mix tapes within a four-month period from October 2014 to January 2015, titled “Monster,” “Beast Mode,” and “56 Nights.” At this point in his career, Future highlighted his problems via sound with false braggadocio, references to drug usage, and a darker production style. Whereas Honest ended with a glossy testament to love, titled “I’ll Be Yours,” Monster began with a cacophonous Metro Boomin-produced song titled “Radical.” The track begins with a pitched-down sample of an aboriginal didgeridoo, soon followed by the lowest pitched version of Future vocals ever observed in his career. Future’s exposition of anger, pain, and hurt in the months that followed the breakup with his ex-fiancée is apparent in the chant throughout the introductory verse. “Fuck all your attitude, fuck all your gratitude” he begins. In his early work, references to drug usage was only referred to metaphorically or in the pursuit of wordplay, while on the trilogy of mixtapes he released in 2014 and 2015, he goes into explicit detail. “It don’t fuck with my conscience/I’ll serve my auntie that raw,” he recites in a trance-like manner on song “Monster.” The same cocaine addicted auntie that he characterized in an early work and interviews with sympathy is now viewed with hatred, a hatred that runs so deep that he’s willing to sell her crack himself. On the three mixtapes, Future lashes out at the listener (saying that he’ll take their girlfriend on multiple tracks), Ciara, and most apparent, at himself.
Monster served as an initial response to the recent breakup, and track “Throw Away” was the most explicit of those responses. Future creates an interesting narrative as the song only makes reference to stark nihilism, where women only serve as sources of sexual favors, and are as easy to throw away as a “pistol.” Halfway through the song, the beat changes to one much more mellow. “Deep down, I believe you know a monster too.” Future’s bipolar behavior goes from one of hatred to understanding, recalling the multiple times that he did cheat and potentially be the cause of the relationship between him and Ciara ending. “Go on, f**k that n***a, and get it over with,” he instructs her. He wants Ciara to get sex out of her system if that’s what it will take for her to get even with him cheating on her. The song ricochets between a variety of emotions, self-loathing, manipulative, angry, compassionate: an ideal characterization of Future’s deteriorating and nigh-schizophrenic psyche. Future’s vocal volume changes after the beat switch, extenuating upon an impression of a schizophrenic “monster” with no control of his emotions.
The mix tape concludes with “Codeine Crazy,” an ode to his usage of promethazine codeine as a coping mechanism for both the custody loss of his son and his ex-fiancée. The track serves as the most self-aware of Future’s explanations about his depression: “I’m going crazy about it/I’m going codeine crazy/That’s how I’m living it/I’m feeling lovely.” he begins the song. Later, he confesses that “I’m an addict, and I can’t even hide it.” Future comes to a conclusive realization by the end of the mix tape, finding solace in abandoning his mainstream sound and lifestyle in lieu of one that includes a variety of women, drugs, and more visceral musical elements. It is in these factors where Future finds himself most comfortable. The confident nature of his lyrical presentation, ability to switch flows in an effort to garner unique performance, and newfound love for an Atlanta trap style that he attempted to stray away from all demonstrate this phenomenon.
“I can’t change, I was God given/they tried to make me a pop star, and they made a monster.” Future raps on his July 2015 album, “Dirty Sprite 2.” In the months that followed the release of Honest and the breakup with Ciara, Future utilized a grittier sound that marked a complete departure from his pop-friendly works throughout late 2013 and 2014. As opposed to the mixed array of producers used on previous projects, “Dirty Sprite 2,” Future completely depends on the work of young Atlanta producers Metro Boomin, the “808 Mafia” Collective, and Zaytoven. (Epic Records) The album was recorded in Atlanta, produced by producers residing in Atlanta, and mastered in Atlanta, lending credence to Future’s willingness to return to his original sound. Future’s willingness to work with these young producers also cultivated a transformative phase in his sound, considering louder percussions than any of his previous works characterize the beats used on Dirty Sprite 2.
In the investigation of Future’s transformation as an artist in regards to the state of his psyche, it can be noted that there is a methodology to which he abided. In 2011, he stated himself that he wanted to create melodic “stadium music.” In doing so, he subscribed to lyrical content and production styles that were similar to that of most pop songs. The inclusion of his previous life as a drug dealer soon began to reveal underlying thoughts within his subconscious to a small degree within his early mixtapes. However, his relationship with Ciara served as a reason to extend upon this “stadium music” style, beginning to edge into the R&B genre in terms of subject matter. With the abrupt end to their relationship, Future attached that style of “pop” music as a byproduct of his relationship with her. In an attempt to invalidate his failed relationship, Future’s late 2014 and early 2015 discography is marked by a complete reversal on “pop” themes, instead doubling-down on the “monstrous” side of his personality in order to continue his career.
Written by George Adeosun
Photos: Mr. Porter
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Caramanica, Jon. “Intricacy And Economy.” Village Voice. Village Voice, 11 Jan. 2005. Web. 7 Dec. 2015.
Gale, Alex. “The 25 Best Mixtapes of 2011.” Complex. N.p., 25 Dec. 2011. Web. 8 Dec. 2015.
Weingarten, Christopher. “Future: How Hip-Hop’s Paranoid Android Became a Robocroon Superstar.”Rolling Stone. N.p., 15 Apr. 2014. Web. 8 Dec. 2015.
Staff, MTV. “Future and Ciara Get Engaged.” MTV. N.p., 28 Oct. 2013. Web. 7 Dec. 2015.
"People just don't think that hip-hop is that genius, but my legacy is to show people that it is." - 9th Wonder Check out our FULL interview with the Grammy award winning producer, DJ, lecturer, scholar of hip-hop, and overall legend. Thank you: UVA Arts UVA Arts Board
SHHO presents Can I Kick It?: A Local Hip-Hop Showcase on February 9th at 8PM at The Southern Café and Music Hall. Can I Kick It? aims to promote local talent around the area by showcasing amazing artists that are in our own backyard. Tickets on sale now for only $5: bit.ly/SHHOTix
Danny L’z is an up and coming artist in the Charlottesville scene. With numerous SoundCloud releases to date, collaborations with artists in town and across the country, and several music videos to his name on Youtube, Danny is looking to make an impact through his music with his honest take on life in the ‘Ville. Peep his Soundcloud here: https://soundcloud.com/danieljones555
On his origin story
I’ve been recording since I was like 12 or 13. I had met this dude named Jamal out of Maryland and he showed me how to mix and master and record on my own. After messing around for a little and working with what I had, I got my own mic and then I met Finn (who produces for Keese and several other hip hop artists in town). And that’s when we got really serious about this shit. And that was in late 2013, 2014.
On police brutality and what inspires his writing
Just like everything that’s going on, you know what I’m saying? I feel like it’s going to be an important time in history, so when it comes to police brutality and shit, I like to touch base on that in my music. I’m talking about my everyday life and what I’m doing.
On the state of hip-hop in Charlottesville right now
Since last year, it came up a lot. I started doing shows at the Magnolia House. I started off doing shows in front of like fifteen people, and now I’ll be performing in front of close to one hundred fans, so I feel like it’s coming up a lot.
On the relationship between artists in town
I’ve been seeing certain people, linking up and doing different shit. I do a lot of music with Keese, but that’s basically it. But, I fuck with a lot of people in the ‘Ville. There’s a lot of talented people.
On who he’s bumping these days
I’m fucking with Dave East. I’m fucking with a nigga named Levi Carter. And Premo Rice. I’ll be listening to Joey Fatts, if you know who he is. I be listening to a lot of people. Oh yea, I be fucking with Vince Staples too.
Any message for everybody coming out to the Showcase?
Well . . . I’m about to put a show on for y’all tomorrow. Come out and support every artist that’s dope. Come fuck with niggas.
SHHO presents Can I Kick It?: A Local Hip-Hop Showcase on February 9th at 8PM at The Southern Café and Music Hall. Can I Kick It? aims to promote local talent around the area by showcasing amazing artists that are in our own backyard. Tickets on sale now for only $5: bit.ly/SHHOTix
Sondai, formerly known as Junior, is one of the most exciting rappers in the Charlottesville scene. His fans know that his music is unpredictable and constantly changes in style, flow, and content. Highly energetic and clever with his wordplay, Sondai will surely bring the heat.
On his name
So, I used to go by Junior, a lot of people know me as Junior. But you know, I thought about it, and was like that's kind of like a juvenile name -- and that didn't really fit the type of music that I’m doing. You know, as I was growing, that's not the type of music that I still made. And I thought Sondai, you know, to me when I write my music, my mental state is like: a Bible-type, thing for me, it's like a saving thing for me. I write everyday so it's like my diary, you know. I've been writing a verse today for like the past 15 years. So Sondai, you know, it's like a faith type, it's synonymous with faith and you know that's when people practice their faith, whatever that may be, and my faith just happens to be writing.
On his influences
The thing about my music... yo, I just don't stick to any genre. It's like, I listen to, man, if you check my phone right now, if you check my iTunes or whatever, it's full of like rock music. It's mainly old rock. But you know, like hip-hop influences, I have to say it's like Gang Starr, that whole clique right there. I have to say, of course Hov, of course Nas, Yeah... you know you gotta throw ‘em in there. The legends, you know. But definitely people like that, like I take bits and pieces from everybody. There was a point in my life where I was like, yo, I need to find out how this dude do this flow; so I would like stay… like too much of my time to solely, strictly, listening to one album. Like, I listened to Aquemini by Outkast, see how they do the melodies and jaunt. You know, just see how you get the energy and stuff. You know, and then like Guru and like just whole, the witty wordplay, you know, but still influence by, you know, like religious background and stuff like that.
On his approach to making music
So the thing about me is, I'll write. Like it strictly started out, like honestly I started out with the you know, with the just writing in general. Like writing poetry, there wasn't no beat or nothing, so basically I don't force it, you know. I read or I write music, so it's like organic to me, it's whenever I feel it. I get beats from everywhere -- I have this one homie out in Minnesota, he like 15 years old, he produces the majority of my beats. All I gotta tell him is like “yo, it's just gotta have a horn in it.” Just a horn, a sax, a trombone, just something in it, you know that I could rock with. That's all.
On advice for younger artists
The thing is, like I had a manager when I moved back up to New York after high school and I'll never forget, man, he told me, he was like: yo, you gotta sound more like Drake. You know what I'm saying? So like that right there turned me off, ya know, we parted ways. He um so basically yo, just write, don't have anything in your mind like it's always good to like to know your demographic or whoever you're tryna appeal to but like don't ever like say yo I gotta make this type of song. Or I gotta make that type of song. Yo, just write, write whatever you feelin’.
On what separates him from other artists
I write every day so it's like I capture everyday emotions. I capture like I'm not gonna be happy every day, I'm not gonna be sad every day, I'm not gonna be joyful every day, you know? But somedays I will be happy you know but since I write every day I capture every emotion as they come so it's like I have stuff relatable you know I'm not afraid to like to you know like mingle around my demons 'cause at the end of the day everybody has demons. What separates me I think is that I talk about stuff that's like an innate feeling in everybody - like everybody has demons. Some people might be afraid to speak on it cause it's not mainstream appeal or nothing like that but I don't care 'bout none of that.
On what he’s bumping
I'm really rocking with um Mick Jenkins, I'm really rockin with Mick right now. Of course Joey Badass, that Devastated jaunt - I don't care that's still my jam. Hey I don't care what he did that's still my jam! Of course Kendrick, of course Cole, you know like the main, you know the usual suspects. But yeah definitely Mick Jenkins.
On what’s next
I got my album coming out. I'm tryna get it out middle March, early April. It’s called Wallflower, you know and it's basically you know the content is synonymous with my growth as a person in general and my growth as an artist you know. When you think of a wallflower you think of somebody who's you know just on the wall, just taking in every experience, absorbing, and then filtering that out through their own psyche. Their own perception on things, you know. So I'm giving you my perspective of the stuff that I see everyday and the stuff that I feel every day, so that's what that is.
Interview by George Adeosun
Graphic by Eleanor Birle
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