so....................i've read unraveled the other day.................... and then ive re-read it.........and now im in the middle of re-reading it again????
honestly cant promise that im not gonna keep coming back to it until someone would steal my phone and then i'll just log in from the pc lets be real here (¬‿¬ ) but!!! what i wanted to say is that its just such a good fic?? so well written? it has all the right words in just the right order and i can and will argue till late night that it healed part of myself that i had no idea existed. these descriptions of hugs??? gonna stay with me untill the very end (*_ _)人
and drawing something is the least i can do to show just how much your work means, @2btheanswertothequestion (/▿＼ )
"unraveled" became my spiderverse canon since the moment ive finished chapter one and it will stay this way!!! thank you so so much for all the long hours and all the hard work you clearly had put into it!! you're amazing!! ♡
I’m praying that when the movie gets released to Netflix on the 31st (here in America anyway) the atsv and Punkflower fandom will boom again because watching it slowly fade away and die has been killing me
Please writers and artists and fans come back I’m begging you 😭😭😭😭
Okay so I'm angry, feel free to ignore or whatever.
warnings: swearing, terrible grammar, possible spelling mistakes.
white fanfic creators will worship the white / white passing characters and get so fuckin mad when people " mis-characterize " those characters. when in reality others are usually exploring the character as a whole. maybe they're kind in a fic or the 'precious cinnamon roll' gets genuinely mad for a good reason. but that doesn't fit their view of said character and they feel so comfortable yelling at whoever wrote the fic and shitting all over them???
then they want to strip a black character of their blackness and pretend like racism doesn't exist in their little worlds and they make black readers feel so... false? like we don't even actually exist. like they won't even go through the bare minimum of finding new ways to express embarrassment it's ALWAYS blushing. or feeling your face turn red. and someones always playing with y/ns hair??
but god forbid a black writer create a black reader that other people can fuckin enjoy? or express that a BLACK character might feel uncomfortable dating a white person?? or the (black) character and their white significant other will experience the world differently?
and it hurts cause fanfic writers will spend hours up to weeks researching a time period or a fantasy race (elf, dragon, witch, etc) for accuracy but they won't consider it for a black character or reader? thats so sad.
especially when they take offence at black writers only wanting other people of color to interact with their posts. Like you kick us out of the chatacters xreader tag. but the xblack!reader tag is for everyone?
and then the smut. it's always borderline racist. like the character frowned or got angry once and now they're characterized as a toxic, rude, violent person? like if you want rough smut there are so many not-black characters who are word for word what you want. but you instead force those ideas onto the black characters with no evidence!
like they aren't porn-bots for your little kinks. they mean something to those black readers and writers who finally got some representation and now we've gotta scroll through pages of uncomfortable smut to find one fic where the character is sweet... but y/n is white as hell.
like i hardly write because im afraid of white fanfic writers taking my stories as a personal offence. especially with Hobie. since there's always someone in his tag with their "hot take" or actively yelling at a black writer bc we express these feelings.
like just shut up. please. or do some fucking research.
I've read smut where Hobie "doesn't ask for consent" and it makes me feel violated. It makes me feel so disrespected because I see Hobie as an extension of myself. He means so much to me on an emotional and philosophical level. It's so EVIL and high-key racist to mischaracterize him as a rapist! Hobie WOULD NEVER do something like that. He's a protector of the oppressed, including victims of sexual assault.
Some of you smut writers are disgusting and need help! I would hope none of my people are writing him this way. Though I HIGHLY doubt it, speaking from experience.
Hobie: Canonically hates an entire group (cops), says he hates them, has personally killed one, and is openly proud of it and maybe even willing to do it again
People for some reason: Hobie loves everybody. Everyone one. There's no way he can harbor ill will towards someone. He looks past all the superficial stuff. He could never experience negative feelings about the experience of being oppressed - or openly talk negatively about a group of people actively complicit in his oppression. That's impossible, what are you talking about?? Why do you think he's mean? Also he's from a universe where racism and segregation never existed :)
I'm not saying Hobie would hate white people like he hates cops. I'm not saying he wouldn't date a white person - what I'm saying is:
MY SIBLING IN CHRIST, Hobie is a Murderer.
Hobie wears blue laces. He has murdered a cop. Because they were a cop. And he's proud of it.
Hobie is not a pacifist. Hobie doesn't 'just love', because he doesn't love cops.
You think he can hate an entire group of people (cops), and put effort into combatting then -
but you don't think he can hold and entire group in high esteem (black people) and put effort into uplifting them or seeking them out?
And even moreso -
If you like his laces, or find them okay - you are condoning murder. And that's coming from someone who likes them.
You like someone who killed a person based on their profession.
He wasn't looking past that!! And he doesn't want to! You're a cop - enough said bruh
You're fine with him murdering one of his oppressors based on their job, but not him personally choosing to not date his oppressors?
You're implying that actual murder is more acceptable than a black person not dating white people.
It's okay if Hobie does one - but not the other?
You are fine with him killing someone - so long as he experiences attraction towards white people??????
You think him perpetrating violence towards an entire group of people is okay, but not him choosing to not engage with white people romantically?
You're okay when he talks about hating the PM and the pigs and ACAB - but you think the idea of him expressing frustration towards his white oppressors impossible and also wrong of him?
Y'all are okay with writing fics of him being mean to Office Davis because he's a cop and that's okay and funny - but you think him being guarded around white people or romantically unavailable to them based on prior experiences is impossible and bad????
Murder is better than a black person not including you??? Huh???
'killing a man in cold blood and wearing it proudly I can look past, but not asking a white woman out? That's dispicable.'
mfer I'm GOBSMACKED cause at this point what logic are you running on??? What sense are you making???
I think Hobie would date any race (even though I think he'd be very observant and aware before taking on a partner who does not understand racism personally. not against it, but as a trans person - I have to be very keen on if a potential partner has hidden transphobia for my own safety and life, I think the same extends to Hobie and race.)
But the fact that these people are okay with him committing murder but not okay with him not being romantically available to white people goes to show they don't actually care about his characterization.
They don't actually think he loves everybody. They know what the blue laces mean.
They just care about consuming him. And they will twist his narrative any way they want in order to do so.
Even if that's implying that murder is better than racial solidarity.
I'm not saying Hobie would hate white people like he does cops.
What I'm saying is that Hobie
1) experiences direct racism as a dark skinned, natural haired black guy
2) he would be just as vocal about his anti-racism views as he is his anti-police stance.
The same way he holds cops accountable for the oppression they are complacent in and the divide that causes, he would do the same for the white people around him.
If Hobie talking about hating the cops and the Prime Minister in everyday conversation is okay to you, but him venting about disparity between races that has effected his whole life - makes you uncomfortable, question why.
They're both displaying negative views towards an entire group of oppressors, why is one okay to you?
Why is Hobie killing a cop completely plausible and acceptable to you, but him even talking or thinking about white people in a sightly negatively negative, frustrated light because of the trauma he faced - we all face - completely impossible and unacceptable to you?
Because you think cops deserve it and white people don't? Because you think police brutality is a conversation that matters but racism isn't???
As if the two things aren't linked??????
Because Hobie is just a puppet to you, and the idea he is not the Token Perfect Black Guy makes you uncomfortable???
Surprise!!! Hobie is an Angry Black Man. He's the scary black man who kills people!! Rarr be scared Boo!!!
Over in y'all corner like 'my boy wouldn't hurt a fly' meanwhile he in the back taking the lives of many and hospitalizing dozens more
Get comfortable with the fact that Hobie is not some hippie lover boy. If you a cop he don't fuck with you, if you black he's gonna uplift you until his last breath.
If you're willing to shout ACAB, you better be shouting BLM too.
That's it. Imma shut the fuck up about it now. I just had to get that one off my mind
Here Hobie
I can't I can't take him ugghh I wanna see him get belligerent so bad
Me personally, I have no dog in this ⚫vs⚪ xReader fight. I don't simp for Hobie like that cause I'm a PunkFlower shipper. I still stand for black love and solidarity in that sense. Lol
Though I have to question these non- black delulu girlies. Would they even date a guy like Hobie irl? Could they even handle the baggage that comes with him being an oppressed black male murderer? Do they actually find dark skin, big lips, big noses, and natural hair attractive on a man? Would they bring him home to meet their parents? Would they risk losing their support system to date a guy like him?
(For those who have dated or are dating black men, good for you. Move along.)
I think they like the IDEA of Hobie but don't actually care about what he symbolizes and what he stands for. They just fetishize him.
I personally find it unfair when it comes to white girls, how they have loads of variations of white Spidermen to simp for but when we finally get one that is for us they still wanna colonize and take him for themselves.
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would display black solidarity by finding black women in specific attractive.
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would possibly like a partner who could understand his experiences with racism.
- It is not problematic to say he would possibly like a partner who understands how to take care of his hair, or shares the same hair texture.
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would find beauty in features specific to the black race - when we have been told those features are undesirable in every way for centuries.
We gotta talk about how Colorblindness is forced on Black Characters - Hobie in Specific
Y'all - it's time we have a VERY VERY overdue conversation about Hobie Brown and Race.
Because it is a necessary one.
Hobie Brown, The Black!Reader, & Representation -
aka Black people are not Colorblind - and neither is Hobie Brown -
[let Diane hop on the mic right quick Chile]
Stop acting like Black Fictional Characters would be colorblind.
Black people can't be colorblind, because our color is weaponized against us from birth. We HAVE to see race - because we have to protect ourselves and know our own history
So when we decide to make spaces specifically for us - spaces where black people and black women in specific can be desired and uplifted, I don't see why people have a problem with it.
Hobie Brown loves, yes. But he also lives in 1978. Racial segregation was outlawed in his country in 1965.
Hobie Brown loves, but he's also a black guy who grew up under racial segregation and racism. He's a black guy who fights cops.
The Writers made Spiderpunk - The Spiderperson who fights oppressive cops - black for a REASON.
The Writers chose to have a black guy save Miles for a REASON. To uplift black people.
Writers here on Tumblr made Black!Readers black for same reason.
If Black Lives Matter doesn't mean White Lives Don't Matter -
Then 'Hobie Brown finds black chicks especially attractive' DOESN'T mean 'white women are unattractive'. This isn't about y'all.
And even for the people that say Hobie would like ONLY black people - okay??? They can say that - it's a literal headcanon.
It's not true if you don't want it to be. You don't have to believe it.
But seeing Black people be protective of a black character, and making black content for other black fans - and then saying 'what - stop that. that's wrong. break this up so I can join'
BEFORE you question why they do it - NOT COOL.
That's like asking for more Captain America in Black Panther. Like ?????
That's like hearing a Riot Grrrl say 'All the women to the front!!' and going 'Uhh, all genders are equal, why can't the men stand in the front too?'
Like yes, all genders are equal. But also - This isn't about them. It's about representation.
Stop preaching equality when we're asking for representation.
Cause there are dozens, hundreds, of white characters who only have white on-screen romances.
And their fandoms do not write black!readers. They do not care enough to say 'oh the show isn't representing this, let us do it.'
The media nor the fandom represent black women. They are an afterthought, always.
And you never see posts for them like -
'Dean Winchester loves black women. Dean Winchester loves latinas -'
When it's a white character only dating white women, with xReaders that always imply whiteness, y'all never call for diversity. At all.
You wouldn't make this post for Miguel.
But when it's a black character and someone suggests they only date black women, or people begin to write xReaders that imply blackness instead of your default-
Suddenly you care about diversity.
Because the first time, you're not represented.
Because let's be honest. Let's be real. No one is writing Hobie x White!Reader. Barely anyone is writing Hobie x Latina!Reader.
It's the Black!Reader you have a problem with. Let's just say it.
Allow black people to have their space, without unfairly calling for 'diversity'.
(aka the right to access to black safe spaces, comfort characters, and labor)
Hobie is an attractive, educated black guy who fights and protects people from the aggressors we ourselves genuinely fear everyday.
He is a character like we've never had before. He has so much emotional weight to us.
Let us enjoy him as we please. We aren't hurting anyone else.
We're just not catering to you. We don't have to.
If a black person wants to center Hobie's love on Black people, they have the right.
And I'm not saying you can't write him with a race neutral or even a White!Reader. Go ahead and write that if you want but just know-
1) If you want to write him with an explicitly white or non-black reader - you should approach the topic of race. You should approach and mention the cultural differences. Him going through racism. Don't erase that because you think it makes your writing ugly or sad.
And if you don't put it in, your erasing the reality and black experience because you find something wrong or uncomfortable about it.
2) If you want to write a race neutral reader - make sure they're really race neutral. Don't include details about hair texture, hairstyle, or skin color.
3) If you are asking black writers for requests - do not get mad if they make the request Black.
You cannot get mad at a black writer for interjecting their own experience when writing about a black character. You're basically asking them to strip their blackness from their writing so you can enjoy it more.
Why should they have to second guess and dial back their blackness when we're expected to do that everywhere? If they want to take a break, and write Black!Readers they can.
3) Understand that the black people are going to keep their safe spaces. And they're going to keep Hobie in their corner.
Because honestly, and I'm going to put this brazenly:
Hobie Brown as a character - and what he represents - means more to black fans than it does nonblack fans.
Does that mean he doesn't matter to y'all? No, not at all. Hobie absolutely holds real emotional weight and meaning to you on multiple levels.
But please understand, for black people - we connect to Hobie on an emotional, often trauma-fueled front.
One that you'll never understand.
There is a level that we connect with him on that nonblack people can't. As a dark skinned black guy, a black guy with natural hair, an alt black guy,
As a black guy who has canonically faced police brutality on-screen
To you, this screenshot is most likely Hobie flipping the camera off, edgy and punk. It's funny, tongue in check. ACAB and all that.
To us, this screenshot is of Hobie - a low income black guy - being physically restrained by police and refusing to stop even when they're taking his mugshot. It's a black guy openly flipping off the police and fighting them off and refusing to go down no matter how much they beat him and he's winning YES
After so many videos over SO many years of cops doing that to black men and them.. not winning.
And them just dying and us having to watch. And add another name to list.
When you see his laces, you most likely think ACAB.
When we see his laces, we see that he's a black man who took on a cop and lived to tell the tale. Which is a RARITY.
Because many of them lose the battle.
For us, the context and connection are completely different.
Fanfiction may just be a way for you to kiss up on random characters or comfort yourself, but for us - that's not the case.
For us, fanfiction is a way to show our experiences and features in a media and world that has collectively ignored them. Shunned them, called them ugly.
Maybe make a post or send an ask to a creator - and ask what Black!Readers mean for them, why they find it important.
Hobie Brown likes Black Girls.
He finds them beautiful. He likes wide lips and broad noses and kinky hair. He loves melanin, and brown skin in the sunlight, and seeing a them in a silk bonnet in the morning.
He loves not having to explain his culture, sharing coconut oil and shea butter. He likes seeing waist beads. He likes people who speak AAVE, with twang in their talk.
He likes ghetto black girls with the acrylic nails. He likes Stallions 6 foot tall. He likes masc girls. And fem ones. He loves black nonbinary people because we do not have to cosign to colonialist ideas of gender. And he loves him some black men too - a good fade will make him go crazy, he loves men with long locs and pretty smiles.
Hobie Brown finds the beauty in Black People that have been erased and demonized again and again by White Society.
Hobie Brown holds blackness dear. And he wants black people to do well.
Hobie Brown loves Black People. Hobie Brown loves Black Girls.
And that's on, what?
This has been a PSA from Diane Pastors. Y'all stay blessed out there 😌💗
Anyway what y'all wearing to carnival since we going to carnival and cropover and labor day with Hobie and bringing out all the flags. 🇧🇧🇧🇧 I'm bringing him to cropover in Barbados yeah I said it we're all going to carnival with him.
Miles Morales is a popular art streamer on the internet. He switches it up every stream by using different mediums. One stream he'll do digital graffiti art of his viewer's usernames on his iPad. Another stream he'll paint on canvas, or draw in his sketchbook. Occasionally, he'll stream himself doing graffiti art in abandoned buildings or subway tunnels. He's always keeping it fresh and his viewers LOVE it. Especially one viewer, Miles's biggest financial supporter, a user by the name BritAnarchist138. This viewer enjoys teasing and flirting with Miles in the stream chat so Miles is constantly bantering with them. The other viewers find it cute and hilarious.
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Hobie Brown is a musician, the guitarist of the popular British punk band The Spider-Slayers. He enjoys his free time by watching and spoiling a certain rising art streamer.
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Eventually, Miles grows curious of his "secret admirer" and they meet up while Hobie and his band are performing in Brooklyn. Sparks fly, blah blah blah. They secretly start dating.
Now everytime the user BritAnarchist138 appears in Miles's stream chat, he blushes and becomes bashful. The other viewers notices this and tease him for it.
This is just a little punkflower au I had floating my head. I'm not a writer but it would be an honor if punkflower fic writers get inspiration from this. Thank you. (˵•́ω•̀˵)
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