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🥳 How do they cheer their s/o up when they’re down?
As a partner, Arthur is wondrously insightful and observant. It does not need to be spelled out for him to know when something is wrong; he is quite perceptive. In a glance he recognizes sadness, distress, or anguish, and in one stride he will be beside you and give your needs his full attention. If you take to isolating yourself, retreating quietly into the darkness of your thoughts, Arthur will sit beside you in silence and gently seek your hand. With a soft stroke his thumb will sweep over your knuckles, as if to tacitly say “I’m here if you want me to be.” When your hand squeezes his and you find the words to voice your gloom, he listens, eyes solely fixed to you. But if the words never come, if they get stuck in your throat and recede back inside Arthur will start to draw you out of that suffocating shell with his mellow and soft tone of voice—the one he reserves for quiet moments with you.
He begins with a story. Sitting beneath the tree canopy at the edges of camp, the faintness of the moon and stars fades and the world narrows to the spaces between his fingers laced with yours. All becomes forgotten as he tries to relate to your feelings with an experience of his own. Arthur has this deeply thoughtful nature he keeps to himself, but he shares it with you because he feels safe to, and he wants you to feel the same. Whatever you need to be happy he is willing to give.
If talking and being there when you need him is not the solution, Arthur will take you someplace special to get you out of your head. Thoughtful and attentive, he knows what you like to do and what will bring a smile to your face. Be it small gifts, quality time, or words of affirmation, your melancholy moods dissipate before long and are assuaged by Arthur’s persistent dedication to your wellbeing.
🎉 Are they a fan of nicknames? Do they prefer cutesy, traditional or silly ones?
He may look tougher than a hickory, but Arthur’s insides turn into wax when you start using affectionate nicknames for each other. Nothing makes him happier than being sweet on you and he cherishes every chance he gets to. He loves when you call him the traditional ones—my love, dear, and darling—but the overly sentimental ones flood his heart with warmth, too. If you refer to him as your soul, your joy, or the keeper of your heart, his ability to speak flees and all he can do is kiss you in response. Calling him handsome turns him downright bashful with blushing cheeks and a hand on the back of his neck. He learned long ago not to argue with you when you insisted he was, so he no longer tries to refute you.
Arthur calls you his darlin’ more than he refers to you by name. Princess, sweetheart, my beautiful, or, sweet girl, are also some of his favorites. But the one that weakens you the most is the one he uses in the more breathless and tender moments between you:
Angel.
Always a hushed whisper full of awe and adoration, Arthur calls you angel in moments when he is overwhelmed with affection for you. It may only be one word, but the way he says it speaks infinitely more than his thoughts can string into sentences.
All the questions for Sadithur (as discussed!), done. This one’s going largely under a cut because it’s long! Numerous other people requested a single answer, but since I got this one, please go ahead and refer to this for it.
PRE-RELATIONSHIP
How did they first meet?
He came to rob her house for survival supplies, and instead ended up rescuing her from being held prisoner by the men who’d murdered her husband. Not exactly a meet cute.
What was their first impression of each other?
Uhhhh, well. Arthur’s first impression of Sadie was “poor shocked woman who’s had her house broken into, her husband murdered, and been attacked herself by O’Driscolls for the last three days”. And Sadie’s first impression of Arthur is probably “large strange man who was in my house, shot the bastards who broke in, and is clearly a violent man himself, even if he saved me, and I’m not inclined to trust pretty much any man right now, let alone one with a gun.” Not the most promising beginning.
Did any of their friends or family want them to get together?
Hosea definitely hoped for them to become a couple at some point if they survived what was to come, even though he knew at that time neither of them was in a good place for it. Hosea’s very much the cheerleader for his kids being happy, to judge from his trying to get Abigail and John to reconcile, and given I’m sure he knows about Eliza and Isaac, he knows how lonely and traumatized Arthur is, and also sees the remarkable rapport and ease of manner he develops with Sadie. I also think Abigail, who loves both Arthur and Sadie deeply, kind of hoped for it also. She knows how lonely they both are, and sees how they are around each other, and we know she’s definitely a bit of a romantic and a believer in the power of love. I suspect Tilly might have leaned in that direction too, because Tilly’s perceptive AF, and Arthur’s Big Bro.
Who felt romantic feelings first?
Arthur. Understandably so, as his grief for Isaac and Eliza is further in the past than Sadie’s for Jake. It was still only a matter of a couple of months difference, though.
Did either of them try to resist their feelings?
Not so much resisted as restrained. They readily accepted they felt that way, and that the person they felt romantic feelings towards was more than worthy of it. They were just questioning whether it was right and fair to put those feelings on the other person. Both of them had concerns--Arthur felt like he had nothing to offer Sadie and had no right to impose on her like that with his feelings, and Sadie had concerns that Arthur would just be bulldozed into a relationship from just being happy to be wanted, and she was unwilling to hurt him like that.
If you had told one of them that the other would be their soulmate, what would they think?
Almost immediately the two of them click in a profound way and they’re very close and comfortable with each other. The trust and affection and deep friendship is already there, so I don’t think they’d be shocked to hear they’d be so important to each other. But they would likely have both been very surprised at the idea of also being together romantically and sexually at some point. Not as a reflection of the other person being unsuitable, but because after so much trauma and self-loathing and loss, neither of them could imagine having that in their lives.
GENERAL
Who initiated the relationship, and how did it go?
Neither of them really made a move. It just sorta happened as a slow change over a couple of years from friends to a cohabiting queerplatonic couple to spouses.
Did they have an official first date? If so, what was it like?
In a sense, their first date was that shopping-and-gunfighting trip to Rhodes, which was pretty memorable, and shows off their immediate easy chemistry and battle couple potential. But in terms of a genuine romantically intended “first date”, not really. They were essentially a QPR by the time they admitted to now having romantic/sexual feelings as well, so things were intense and committed enough already that they didn’t need a date. They just moved right towards getting married.
What was their first kiss like?
They both had resolved to admit their feelings to each other after the wedding of two of their friends. Then they got a little tipsy at the wedding, ended up saying a bit too much, and Sadie took the initiative and kissed Arthur. Given he kissed back very enthusiastically, she could be pretty sure he wasn’t just playing along with her. But they realized they needed to talk, so they tabled it until the next day when they were sober again and could talk about it.
Were they each other’s first anything (kiss, relationship, etc.)?
For Sadie, no. She’d been married very happily to Jake. For Arthur, this was the first relationship with solid grounding and a solid future rather than youthful fantasy like Mary, and he’s surprised at how easy it is to be with Sadie, including being vulnerable, because of that trust. It’s also the first time he’s had sex and actually really been comfortable and enjoyed it rather than just being left feeling awkward and even more alone, given he comes across very strongly as some type of asexual (I write him specifically as demisexual) and didn’t have opportunities for the emotional intimacy he needs to be interested in sex. Both of them actually had their first kiss in a same-sex romance, though Sadie wasn’t able to acknowledge hers as romantic until much later.
What’s their height difference? Age difference?
Given Roger and Alex’s heights, and their corresponding relative heights in-game looking accurate to that height differential, I put Arthur at 6’ish and Sadie at 5’4”ish, so there’s an 8 inch height difference. As for age, it’s canonical that Arthur was born in 1863. I have him as a July birthdate, so he’s 35 for the early bits of the game, and 36 for most of it. Sadie appears to be 30ish (she’s definitely no 24-year-old), and I write her as having been born in April of 1868. So she’s 31 for all of RDR2. That puts their age difference as a smidge under 5 years.
What’s their relationship with each other’s families?
Both of them have lost their biological parents by 1899. Arthur’s only bio sibling (David) died even before Arthur even knew him. Sadie lost an older brother (Henry), and she’s become estranged from her younger sister Caroline, though they patch that up. Arthur has yet to meet Caro, though, as she’s been living in Oregon. So the only real family in question was the gang, and clearly Sadie was not only accepted by them, she actually stepped up and led them.
Who takes the lead in social situations?
Sadie tends to, and Arthur readily relies upon and defers to her experience there. He’ll be the first to admit his life didn’t exactly teach him the boundaries and everyday pleasantries of Victorian social order, and sometimes that’s to the good. Sadie’s not exactly a paragon of it herself as a hardscrabble farm girl who doesn’t defer to misogyny, but she’s aware of some of those rules, boundaries, and undercurrents in a way Arthur isn’t. So he’s not too proud to let her take the lead in a social situation, or to ask her advice in dealing with something without giving offense.
Who gets jealous easier?
Arthur would have, early on. He was far more insecure in himself (and as Sadie admits, he’ll always be a little more fragile than her in that realm), but he was probably more likely to morosely turn doubts on himself as a perceived inadequacy and personal failure rather than to get jealous of Sadie. Being romantically or sexually jealous really kind of requires insecurity and lack of trust, and they’ve moved far beyond that.
LOVE
Who said “I love you” first?
I had to double check. Arthur said it first when he proposed to her, but Sadie immediately followed it.
What are their primary love languages?
For both, I think Quality Time/Acts of Service. Showing love for both of them is in spending time together doing things, doing little things for each other, and basking in that friendship that’s the solid foundation of everything between them. There’s a bit of Physical Touch in there also due to both of them being somewhat touch-starved. I do think Arthur has some Words of Affirmation in there as well, because sometimes he truly needs to hear praise and affection deliberately and unequivocally stated to be able to believe it’s real, and Sadie’s come to realize that and respond to it.
How often do they cuddle/engage in PDA?
They’re not really an overt PDA couple. What they have they consider generally very intense but private. They do like to cuddle in private, and small touches here and there are common enough.
What are their favorite things to do together?
Just spend time together, to be honest. It could be reading together (silently or one of them aloud), playing music together, doing chores, cooking, spending time with the kids, training horses, lying in bed talking, or anything. They just genuinely enjoy each other’s company.
Who’s better at comforting the other?
It’s a learned skill for both of them since neither was great at articulating feelings, but the months at Las Hermanas when they were both healing psychologically while Arthur was healing physically did a lot. They’re both fairly good at nonverbal comfort, and reaffirming each other.
Who’s more protective?
Pick a day. It can vary. ;) I think we see in-game they’re both fiercely protective of each other. I do think Arthur has the knack of being protective of her in a non-patronizing, non-paternalistic way, which Sadie appreciates. It’s still been hard for her to accept that needing and taking help isn’t admitting she’s weak. Arthur kind of had to get over that notion during his TB convalescence because he constantly needed help for things.
Do they prefer verbal or physical affection?
A mix of both. Usually not big overt dramatic demonstrations, since that’s not their dynamic, but quick little affectionate touches (on the arm, the cheek, etc.), using fond nicknames and pet names, and things like that.
What are some songs that apply to their relationship, in-universe or otherwise?
I’ll keep working on this and probably post some of my Sadithur playlist at some point.
What kind of nicknames do they call each other?
“Art” and “Daisy” are their private affectionate nicknames, given Sadie jokingly calling him “artsy Art” as he’s an artist, and Arthur admitting he couldn’t come up with a fitting nickname from “Sadie” and just rearranging the sounds a bit. After Sadie used it in-game, “honey” is probably the most common pet name they use.
DOMESTIC LIFE
If they get married, who proposes?
Arthur did. That’s not because Sadie is a traditionalist by any means. But I do think there’s the part of her that likes to know she’s not steamrollering someone, and that they got to take their own initiative. Then especially in Arthur’s case, I think he needed to ask. She needed to be sure that Arthur wanted to be with her, rather than it being a case of her wanting him and him going along with it from being happy to be wanted by her. I also think he needed it too to prove to himself he could be confident enough in what he had to offer Sadie to ask, and to stand equal to her.
What’s the wedding like? Who attends?
They had a very small wedding at their home in Chuparosa, for several reasons. One is because they’re just not the type for huge demonstrative parties for their own sake, even if they enjoy them when they’re celebrations for someone else. Neither of them really likes being a massive center of attention. Two, they were fairly alone. They’d made some friends in Mexico, but aside from Charles (who they knew went to Canada), everyone else from the gang was a mystery to them. Three, they kept it small and quiet also since they’d sorta accidentally ended up playing fake married since Arthur’s admission to Las Hermanas in order to stick together. So everyone already assumed they were a married couple, and they didn’t want it to become a big obvious thing. Sister Calderon was the officiant (since it was a secular wedding of two avowed non-Catholics), and their friends Pedro and Juanita Estevez from Las Hermanas were the witnesses. Dr. Felipe Garcia, Arthur’s doctor who’d also become a friend, also attended, as did Albert Mason, who they’d found in Escalera a few weeks before on yet another wildlife photography expedition.
How many kids do they have, if any? What are they like?
Mild Sunrise spoiler ahoy, but as of 1908 they’ll have four: Beatrice (born 1902), Matthew (born 1903), Susanna (born 1905, adopted by them in 1907) and Andrew (born in 1908). I also see them as likely taking in some older kids later once Susie and Andy are a bit older, because Arthur in particular would be passionate about the need to try to give a couple of orphaned and/or homeless teens and near-teens a home. He knows the kind of people who take you in, or if it doesn’t happen at all, can make a huge difference. As for personality, Bea’s very much a fierce no-nonsense sort but very protective of the younger kids, Mattie’s a sweet boy who’s going to become a gentle giant, and as for Susie and Andy, I’ll wait to see what they tell me. Andy’s not born yet, and Susie’s both very young and dealing with the trauma of losing her family to Micah’s gang, so she’s understandably not showing much of her true personality just now.
Do they have any pets?
Aside from a lot of horses? They ended up with a black cat (Dido) at the very end of 1899, adopted during the first weeks of Arthur’s convalescence at Las Hermanas and helping keep him company during all that bed rest. Then they picked up a stray dog (Dusty) in Armadillo in 1901 during fighting the cholera epidemic--this is the Armadillo “Mutt” in-game. The most recent addition is a border collie puppy (Dorothy), who they’ve adopted from MacFarlane’s Ranch in 1907, given Charlie the border collie being there in RDR1.
Who’s the stricter parent?
This ended up being something of a big fight, actually, and probably the first huge blow-out in their marriage. Sadie felt like she was the only one providing discipline and accountability as Bea got old enough to start to need it. Arthur understandably was feeling his way through parenting since mostly what he has is negative examples from Lyle (physical abuse) and Dutch (profound psychological abuse). Even Hosea’s parenting was sort of indirect and elusive sometimes. So he was being very hands-off on discipline out of a need to make certain the kids knew they were loved, and to not worry that he was hurting them. But he couldn’t do that and leave Sadie all the heavy lifting while he gets to be identified as the “nice” parent and the joybringer, and the two of them came to realize that. I’d say they’re about even now.
Who kills the bugs in the house?
Both of them. Neither is squeamish by any means.
How do they celebrate holidays?
Usually fairly quietly at home with family, but with remembrances of things dear to them. Songs and music, decorations, favorite foods, little family rituals. They like to keep that kind of thing alive where they can.
Who’s more likely to convince the other to come back to sleep in the morning?
Sadie. She knows how hard farming is, so she’s up and at it when there’s work to be done. But she never had Arthur’s long years of anxious need to stay busy no matter what so he was proving his usefulness.
Who’s the better cook?
They’re both pretty decent at it. Sadie actually likes cooking, but she doesn’t like being expected to do it just because she’s a woman, so she’s rather protective of that notion. Arthur came to it late, as kitchen duty was one of the first light jobs a TB patient at Las Hermanas could have after being allowed off total bed rest. Given how bored he was by then, cooking became something really exciting, and he found out he actually enjoyed it, both the kind of soothing ritual of all those steps, and then producing something tangible by it.
actuallyhansolo replied to your post: i think killing eve is the third show i’ve watched...
Damn. I heard Luther was really good and was thinking of watching it lol should I not bother?
Luther has a fridging problem. I thought it was ok when I watched, like, seasons one to three, did not bother with season 4 on account of the fridging problem. Then recently was un-cancelled or w/e for an encore season and I did not like that season at all, it just kind of doubled down on its issues.
So I guess you could do a selective watch, lol.
I also felt Luther got a lot of credit for being well written when it was mostly just well acted. If you take away the sheen of Idris Elba and Ruth Wilson & co it’s kinda standard cop fare.
She wonders why there are so damn many of them and how they were almost all so easily taken? There’s just free bunker stuff all over Hope County?? She is thankful that she can almost always actually get some goddamn sleep in their bunkers when she finds one though.
10. How about Dutch? Do they get along with?
She does get along with Dutch, since she oftentimes emanates that angry grandpa energy herself. And he saved her ass, so she kinda owes him.
24. From the White Tail militia which person they DON’T get along with?
TAMMY. Diana can be a cold bitch but Tammy is a Cold. Bitch. After so many cold shoulders Diana sees fit to just serve it right back, and only really speaks to Eli and Wheaty and that kid with the stutter when she’s there.
@actuallyhansolo replied to your post “I hope you and your whole family get COVID!” This is just one...”
My mother's a nurse and one of her co workers was shopping in a grocery store wearing her (clean) scrubs when a lady came out of nowhere and punched her in the face and started screaming at her about "dirty hospital workers spreading the disease". idk what the fuck is wrong with people but they seem to think they can treat others however they want right now and have it be justified by "fear"
I am so sorry to hear this but not at all surprised at this point. We’ve had violent patients/visitors at our hospitals. (Worst I’ve personally seen was people getting downright scary shaking at doors, screaming.) Just nastiness.
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