#beethoven quote

[mozartbachtoven]

The quote you are referring to comes from Beethoven's famous letter to his pupil and assistant, Ferdinand Ries, dated April 1802. Beethoven scoled Ries for not turning to him for help with financial struggles, writing: "Am I not your true friend? Why did you conceal your necessities from me? No friend of mine shall ever be in need, so long as I have anything myself."

The text of this letter can be explored in the Project Gutenberg Collection of Beethoven's Letters.

■ The Situation: Ries arrived in Vienna in 1801 and was struggling financially Beethoven, remembering that Ries's father had supported him during his own family's financial hardships in Bonn, was deeply offended that Ries hadn't asked him for help sooner.

■ The Action: In the letter, Beethoven enclosed a note for his patron. Count Browne, demanding an advance of 50 ducats for Ries so that he could purchase appropriate clothes. He also promised that if the Count refused, Ries could come directly to him.

■ The Relationship: Beethoven and Ries shared a famously intense, complex master-pupil relationship that lasted until Beethoven's death. Despite Beethoven's gruff exterior and demanding temper, he was profoundly loyal to Ries and always made sure he was supported..

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[lioninsunheart]

Good Morning/Afternoon Tumblrs!

“The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others only a green thing that stands in the way. Some see nature all ridicule and deformity... and some scarce see nature at all. But to the eyes of the man of imagination, nature is imagination itself.” ― William Blake

[terminatedweasel]

To play a wrong note is insignificant; To play without passion is inexcusable

(attributed to) Ludwig van Beethoven

Day 3: Your favourite inspirational quote

I love this one, even if it hasn’t been confirmed to be from Beethoven himself. That no matter what, we should never forget that the true purpose of music is to entertain, to communicate, to express. That being note-perfect means nothing without musicality and intent.

[mozartbachtoven]

Mein Engel - mein alles - mein Ich

(My angel - my everything - my self)

WITH YOUR PENCIL

Exactly 214 years ago today, Ludwig van Beethoven began writing one of the most famous love letters in history.

He wrote it in Teplitz, deeply moved by an unexpected meeting with his beloved in Prague on the night of July 3–4, 1812. The letter almost certainly never reached its recipient. However, the text makes it clear that Beethoven had intended to send it, presumably to Franzensbad.

By now, the literature on the letter’s content and its recipient fills entire libraries. One detail, however, is repeatedly overlooked: Still caught up in the euphoria of their long-awaited night of love, Beethoven begins his passion-filled letter with something that seems like a triviality. He tells his most deeply beloved what is obvious anyway—namely, that he is putting his words down on paper in (her) pencil.

So apparently, he had received a writing implement from her earlier. But why is this detail actually so important to him? Why mention it in such a prominent place, and even emphasize it with the phrase “namely”? (Just a few words today, written in pencil (with yours)).

Aside from the fact that he could easily have written with ink and a quill in his lodgings—in a manner befitting the occasion—he also always had a pencil on hand for sketches and notes. And yet he went out of his way to add “with yours”—squeezed in between the lines afterward.

The tradition of giving writing instruments as gifts has a long history. At first glance, this may seem like a trivial gesture, but it actually holds profound layers of meaning and symbolism. In an era when letters were the primary means of communication, writing instruments were often given as particularly intimate expressions of love.

As a tender gift, they expressed both the desire and the promise to remain emotionally close to one another.

As a gift from a woman to a man, they signaled a shared intellectual connection and appreciation for his intellect.

As a tool for preserving thoughts and feelings, they serve as a vehicle for a deep intellectual and emotional exchange.

And finally, passion and eroticism could be subtly expressed through the symbolic form and texture of a pen … “with yours” - - -

Appreciations 🎶 Ludovina VB • FB@Ludwig van Beethoven Group

[mozartbachtoven]

Beethoven as a "kept artist "? Not exactly... Franz Gerhard Wegeler, Beethoven's lifelong friend, reported this complaint in his book. It referred to Beethoven's stay at Prince Lichnowsky's palace in Vienna in the 1790s, where he's expected to return by 3:30, tidy himself, & appear for a formal 4 p.m meal.

For Beethoven, these aristocratic rituals felt like shackles. He loved freedom, not schedules & etiquette. Here's just an example of how uneasy he always was was courtly expectations..

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[mozartbachtoven]

BEETHOVEN 200 YEARS AGO TODAY: Tuesday, August 9, 1825 (approximately)

Beethoven writes an undated letter from Baden to Nephew Karl relating to Schott's publishing his jocular biography of Tobias Haslinger, probably sometime between August 4 and 10, 1825. "Dear little rascal! This very evening I received your letter, and how I have to laugh. It is not right that the folks in Mainz should have done such a thing, but since it is a single occurrence, it doesn't do any harm. Our age needs strong minds to scourge these petty, insidious, miserable scoundrels of human souls. +As much as my heart rebels against hurting a person, it was just a joke and not at all my intention to have such a thing printed.+ You should immediately ask the magistrate about the form regarding the change of the chamber obligations into Rothschild bonds, so as to no longer be subject to the magistrate (superior guardianship)." [Contributor Birthe Kibsgaard points out that the parenthetical phrase may be wordplay by Beethoven, since the German includes "Hinterschaft" which could also mean "bottom."]

"Be well behaved, be good. Here you have an example of how everyone rejoices when human virtues of such people are properly rewarded. Be my dear, only son, imitate my virtues without my faults. However, since man is bound to fall short, your true self has worse faults than I. Your embracing, faithful father."

Beethoven adds a postscript: "Regarding Sunday's conversation, write to me as well. It's from the court--courtly stuff--where one must stand by in reserve. Holz didn't arrive today, if he can only be trusted.

Brandenburg Letter 2026; Anderson Letter 1329. The original is in the Krakow Biblioteka Jagiellonska (Mus. ep. autogr. Beethoven 29.) This letter ties into the August 4 letter discussing the conversion of the chamber bonds into ones issued by Rothschild, so it is probably written not long after. Holz had said he would try to deliver the copies of the quartet on Monday August 8, so the postscript may well refer to that date. But since Beethoven says "Sunday's conversation," rather than "yesterday's conversation, it seems unlikely that he is writing on Monday, and in any event he was in Vienna himself yesterday, as shown by the letter to Müller. The first paragraph relates to the publication of the fanciful biography of Tobias Haslinger that Beethoven had written, and which Schott's had published in their Cäcilia magazine without checking with Haslinger to get his permission as Beethoven had (somewhat unclearly) instructed. Beethoven had written that in January and it was most likely published in the spring, so some fresh controversy regarding the story must have erupted in the meantime.

Sometime about now, but between August 7 and 12, Beethoven fills leaf 44v of Conversation Book 91 with music in 3/2 time, written in soft pencil. This may be an unused idea for the quartet op.130. The German conversation book editors tentatively identified this as belonging to op.132, but since that quartet is essentially finished by now, that seems improbable. This page is reproduced here, courtesy of the Berlin Staatsbibliothek, in the original, and also a version with the contrast enhanced for increased legibility.

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[mozartbachtoven]

thebeethovennotebook : most of Beethoven's letters and personal habits reveal his aversion to Farewells. He often left without notice or delegated emotional goodbyes to letters. He wrote these melancholic lines while taking his nephew Karl home from Giannatasio del Rio's school, a moment steeped in emotional turmoil, a bitter custody battle, and the quiet ache of an unspoken goodbye.

Despite his reputation for fiery passion, this moment reveals a vulnerable soul who found Farewells simply too painful to bear.

In 1809, he even composed the Les Adieux Sonata (The Farewell) for his dear friend and student Archduke Rudolf, who had fled Vienna as Napoleon's army approached..

Appreciations Nadia Nasr FB @Ludwig van Beethoven Group

[mozartbachtoven]

For purposes of due genuflection of admission to Beethoven, this blogger, aspiring classical musician and composer, must here endeavour to make a personal confession: The problem is not the problem. The problem is that you always only ask for the bare minimum and so that's what you get!

The problem is that you allow other people to define value.

…And once you determine your own value - yet they are astonished! 😧 Family, friends, colleagues—the world at large …This is why celebrities of all sort are so astonishing! Because they set the interpretation of their own value. Something that is completely out of reach of the limited mind. It’s astonishing! Haha

as·ton·ish·ing

/əˈstäniSHiNG/

adjective

adjective: astonishing

extremely surprising or impressive; amazing.

"an astonishing achievement"

as·ton·ish

/əˈstäniSH/

verb

gerund or present participle: astonishing

surprise or impress (someone) greatly.

"you never fail to astonish me"

Origin

early 16th century (as astonished, in the sense ‘stunned, bewildered, dismayed’): from obsolete astone ‘stun, stupefy’, from Old French estoner, based on Latin ex- ‘out’ + tonare *‘to thunder’*

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Is this not Beethoven? To whom I owe the deepest appreciations ~ Who blazed his own trail throughout the world as thunder ⚡️ astonishing everyone in his path in redefining the value of everything?

…And Beethoven *had* to be that way tho the world at large rants on since his very time to the present day complaining about his misanthropy! But he *knew* that he was not in the world to substantiate it or of anything that had come before or that was then in existence - but to redefine the whole of the very fabric of existence itself ~ and this is the very thing that continues to set him apart from every other ~ & he wasted no time, neither spared any one in doing so! "Oh you men who think or say that I am malevolent, stubborn or misanthropic, how greatly do you wrong me. You do not know the secret cause which makes me seem that way to you.”

This excerpt quote from the Heiligenstadt was about much more than his malady of increasing deafness. The purpose of Beethoven’s stalwart authenticity was to redefine everything.

You can’t change the world by being like it …Or by being liked by it.

It seriously bothered me to find myself at a point of not understanding Beethoven, even to the measure of deep disappointment and anger with him —-to the point of disgust! But I understand him now ~ & value him even moreso.