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TOLERANCE TRAINING FOR ETERNITY IN HELL (...which is Jane’s way of saying “Sunbathing”)

for anyone wondering, the last line Pete said is a reference to their D&D sessions in the pilot & comic. Jerry’s the dungeon master and has to roleplay as the female NPCs they flirt with, so they’re essentially just making moves on him

So Jane and Mandi aren’t allowed in the Club because of Bill, right? Well they like getting under his nerves for kicking them out in the first place by blasting girly pop music they know he’ll hate during Club meetings as loud as possible.

This is part of a bunch of Eltingville Club fan comics I made where Mandi meets the Club when they’re all teens and she and Jane play a bigger role in the story. I wanted them to play a bigger role in the story because I thought their perspectives on how they handle the Club’s bullshit is important too.

There’s a whole range of different kinds of shitty behavior girls get subjected to in fandom spaces. One of those is where some guys just can’t fathom seeing a girl in this space as a human being like anyone else cause they’re stuck viewing them as objects or options. I’ve seen guys instantly objectify girls in these settings just because they somehow think a girl having common interests as them means they have to shoot their shot when it really doesn’t. Treating girls as human beings instead of options really shouldn’t be hard to comprehend, but sadly a lot of guys would rather focus on how a girl can benefit them in some way instead of giving them the bare minimum of respect and treating girls like humans.

To summarize this mini comic: it’s about why guys who objectify nerdy or alternative girls suck and the guys who blame girls for being objectified suck too. Treating girls like humans shouldn’t be hard, and nobody should be slut shamed, objectified, or treated as less than human for what they wear.

Going more into detail on this subject since it's something that should be talked about with more depth:

Pete would stoop low enough to regularly subject Jane and Mandi to being objectified. He also feels entitled to them because they’re both alternative and have nerdy interests. Pete’s the kind of guy who would f//tishize alternative girls, project stereotypes on them because of how they dress, and assume they’re asking for attention they never wanted in the first place. Teenage Pete hasn't stooped as low as he did as an adult in the Epilogue, but Jane & Mandi really hate that he keeps hitting on them and trying to get their attention. They think it’s really pathetic since it’s obvious he learned how to talk to girls from p///*rn and movies made by guys who don’t know how to interact with women. Pete doesn’t really talk to girls in the first place though, he’s usually nervous around most girls even if he doesn’t wanna admit that. Only reason why he has the audacity to be this blunt around Jane & Mandi is cause they’re within proximity, and he got way too comfortable by being around them for a while. It really sucks from Jane’s perspective too since Pete wasn’t like this when they were kids, and he actually treated her like a person back then. It just shows that this mentality is taught, and guys aren’t predispositioned to think with their d///ks. It's a choice to objectify women, and the guys who act like they can’t control it just want an excuse to absolve themselves from facing consequences for their behavior.

Bill having a sister is a pretty interesting concept too that we never saw in the comic. I feel like despite how often they fight he’d still be kind of protective of Jane, but in the wrong ways. Bill is misogynistic beyond belief and treats his sister like garbage because of his hatred for women, but he’d be a massive hypocrite about it whenever anyone else treats her like shit. Mainly because I wrote Bill & Jane being close in the past, they’re a year apart in my lore and practically grew up as best friends before they fell out. So I see him being protective whenever any other guy insults her or objectifies her since he sees her as an extension of himself. Meaning that even if he's "defending" her, he's doing it out of selfishness too since another guy making comments like that about his sister since she's directly tied to his social standing. He’d still blame her for getting objectified though even though it isn’t her fault some guy objectified her. That’s cause Bill’s just too much of a coward to actually stand up for his sister the right way and confront a guy, blaming his sister for someone else’s behavior is easier for him to do.

I’ve seen a lot of guys do this where they act like they’re “protecting” their female relatives, but they aren’t focusing on the wellbeing of their female relatives at all. For guys like this, defending a female relative is more about policing boundaries and asserting dominance over other men than it is about defending women. And Bill would definitely have this mentality since he cares more about his ego than anything. I see Bill being one of those guys that needs to be told “think about your mom or your sister being in this situation” in order to feel a slight shred of sympathy for a girl he berates. I don’t think Bill would ever reconsider his actions, but I always hated that phrase cause why should he even have to think about his mom or sister being in that situation to see a girl as human? He should just see women as humans to begin with.

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