Some lore about Coran's folks: Why did their parents stay in Menzoberranzan after having Coranzan and Z'ress?
A continuation from this post.
They had built their infrastructure and done such a good job at sneaking people out under the guise of slave trade they just kept at it because they felt like they were doing good work and couldn't be replaced.
They were renowned in the Promenade for the work they'd done. They felt they were serving Eilistraee's message and saved so many drow there - and no one could simply replace them. No one they could trust anyway.
And to some extent, Coran resented them for this. Wishing he'd never been raised that way down there. And I think their parents regret that they raised him and Z'ress in Menzoberranzan as well. They chose to save many drow but sacrificed their children's childhoods to do it.
Funnily enough, when Coran's older, he understands why they did this. In the BG3 timeline, he has 5 of his own children and he is regrettably distant as he runs his own House separate from the Promenade to do Eilistraeen work. He's ambitious and the House becomes his life's mission to succeed. He also wants his children to succeed him. But he has to spend a lot of his time during their childhoods just making sure they don't get killed… Thankfully his parents are still around so as grandparents they get kind of a do-over with Coran's kids. And the kids aren't neglected either.
Yapping in DMs earlier today made me realize there's some lore I haven't talked about.
So … a little background: Coranzan's mother, Zilharess, was once part of a minor noble house. While she was young, it fell due to suspicions of Eilistraeen connections (never proven and wasn't something she [or her mother were] involved in). But the Baenre's had to crush a few small houses to make an example of those leaving the surface so. RIP.
In its wake, her mother, Nanrynne, decided not to take it lying down and just start over in a completely new sector where they wouldn't be known. They agreed never to mention the family name again but they would get on their own two feet. (This is why Coran has no surname)
She works with a Vhaeraunite, Alunrryn, who is also trying to lay low but make connections to the surface. They decide to set up a merchant guild as a facade and she's pretty shrewd at it.
In this business, Coran's mother, Zilharess, meets with Alunrryn's brother, Veldrin - Coranzan's eventual father - who is a deeply embedded Secret Moondancer and also supports the business for his own discreet travel needs. It he who manages to bring her over. Through the trading business they visit Skullport often and meet with other Eilistraeens and in time she's convinced by them.
okay so. the food thing. sorry I went to cook dinner and juggle some deadlines so I'm still thinking about this, laughing to myself.
The thing is, this takes a while to figure out 'cause he simply doesn't demonstrate strong opinions on food. He will never turn away any food, he'll never badmouth anything, he will simply have no strong opinions about it one way or another. So for the most part, if he's not in charge of cooking for himself/others (a duty he knows better than to assume by now), he seems like he's just really chill about everything - and he is.
But one day. maybe months into your relationship with him. you will find him with his hand in a jar of mayo. and looking like a gremlin in the glow of the refrigerator light, your view of him will be entirely changed.
But hey it is kind of a useful feature - a lot of Eilistraeens do a lot of cultural exchange, so I think it's handy to have somebody who will turn down nothing when it comes to encountering vastly different culinary cultural traditions.
Just don't leave him to his own devices and he's fine lol
I gotta know now after that tag. What kinds of horrifying foods would Coranzan eat?
lol thank you for this question!! This is originally a minor statement that became a joke that got mildly out of hand.
Long story short, Coran's the kind of guy who'd eat unseasoned boiled chicken and Monster drinks for months without a problem.
Growing up in Eastmyr, Coranzan didn't care about the flavors of anything he ate. He'd eat whatever he could as long as it was fuel and he was never picky. He mostly ate spore bread with cave fruit jelly and that was all he needed to live.
By the same token, exquisitely prepared cuisine under his eventual mistress' household was wasted on him. Can't tell the difference, except for the presentation, which he appreciates more than the flavors.
This evolved with @beebookmagic's Elendar only cooking flavor-texture abominations in molded gelatin and my realizing that Coran would have no problem with that. Furthermore, he would find the presentation delightful. He would be Elendar's best friend at the potluck.
Also in my D&D game, I'm playing Coranzan's father, Veldrin, who actually really enjoys cooking and playing with flavor fusions between elements from the surface and Menzoberranzan. He's frustrated with Coran's lack of appreciation for his efforts and skill but still loves his uncultured son nonetheless.
Recently, Veldrin's party stumbled upon a magical alchemical jug. Upon reading it can summon 2 gallons of mayonnaise, I was like. That's for my son. He'd eat that. Straight up Winnie the Pooh his hands in some mayo and eat it.
SHIP FOR CORANZAN AND HIS GODDESS?????? 👀 SOFTLAUNCHING CORANZAN'S NEW SUGAR MOMMY?
First of all, thank you for the ask!! And for enabling my yapping!!
So this is like a line or two in my latest intro post that I haven't discussed at length. I mostly have only talked about it in DMs, and the lovely @mystxmomo referenced it as a set up for a joke about the differences between Vhaeraun and Eilistraee and getting down with their followers.
I use pretty cagey language when describing it because I'm not sure how best to describe the encounter. However, Coranzan's closest approximation to what he experienced was sexual ecstasy.
Truthfully, the broad strokes of the ship is unrequited love with one brief, but extremely intimate and moving interaction that changed the course of his life and left him pining for more of her.
So let me just take this opportunity to yap about it and why I decided to do this.
Eilistraee and Coranzan (draft concept)
(Side note: Part of this is the subject of a VP project I have going but I can't post it on social media until the zine is done so VP of some of their relationship is incoming in a few months).
First some background on my interpretation of Eilistraee:
I consider Eilistraee to be a pretty sexually positive goddess. She's a fertility goddess, her cult is full of ritualistic orgies, there's no way she's not getting down now and then herself. And I find it strange that a lot of the fandom treats her as this sexually untouchable being.
So I'm like, be the change you want to see in the world. Sexualize 👏 that 👏 goddess👏!
Let me be clear, Coranzan having sex with Eilistraee is pretty cool, but I don't think it's a particularly unique experience on its own. What is unique is her manifesting before him at all and choosing to spend time with him and him alone, as opposed to appearing in a group prayer or orgy setting.
Generally, it's understood that Eilistraee is pretty distant from her worshippers, compared to Vhaeraun or Lolth. Why she's this way is anyone's guess (maybe she's more like Corellon than Lolth in this way, maybe she feels interference is hindering drow self reliance and independence or something). But my interpretation is her physical manifestations of her bodily form are rare and deeply welcomed events, but primarily appear to groups performing ritual songs, dances, or orgies.
And to add another bit of context, it's worth remembering that Coranzan's previous intimacy with gods was with Keptolo, over a century prior. Keptolo stoked Coranzan's obsession to serve and simultaneously rewarded and abused him as he did so. His sexual experiences with Keptolo were far from gentle experiences, and Eilistraee couldn't have been more different in that regard. This is kind of a healing moment for him where faith and intimacy intersect.
So with that established let me get into how this occurred.
Coranzan wistfully smiles at Eilistraee's manifestation on the Phalar Aluve.
I've previously established that Coranzan has wanted to be a part of Eilistraee's clergy since he was brought to the Promenade of the Dark Maiden in the 1330s DR and Eilistraee's Message deeply resonated with him. However, according to Eilistraee's priestesses, men were not allowed to become clergy until Eilistraee herself intervened upon her return in 1489 DR. That's well over a century of him trying to convince her priestesses that he was worthy, hoping Eilistraee herself might recognize his burning desire to serve and redeem himself for his past service for Keptolo and Lolth.
At some point, not even the encouragement of his family and mentors was enough to keep him going down this path. The constant rejections over a century overcame his usual resilience and positivity. On the verge of throwing away over a century of training and hard work, he broke down in a sobbing prayer to Eilistraee, begging for some sign that he should keep going or that she agreed with her priestesses and he would seek another path.
Miraculously, Eilistraee heard his prayer. She appeared to him, comforted him, told him he was worthy, and that she did love him. She chose to show him her love through a rare moment of intimacy just between the two of them. I have difficulty describing how this would go down specifically since hand wavey metaphysical god stuff is difficult for me to get into... but part of this process involved her soothing him, running her fingers through his hair, granting him the Moonfire blessing to linger in his hair.
Coranzan was left feeling deeply connected to her, his faith renewed, and inspired to be worthy of her faith in him. Furthermore, the lingering Moonfire hair demonstrated Eilistraee's personal blessing and it was enough to show he was worthy of becoming a Cleric of Eilistraee to her priestesses. Shortly after this event, men were generally allowed to become clergy.
He took his charge seriously, doubling down on missions to serve her cause. He wanted to make Eilistraee proud. But part of him also hoped he'd get another chance to see her again, spend another moment alone with her again. However, he hadn't seen more than the usual manifestations to guide him. Moths fluttering in patterns, moonlit paths for guidance, but she herself hadn't appeared before him again.
Coranzan sometimes dances alone, hoping to be visited by Eilistraee again.
He knew the moment he had with Eilistraee herself was rare and special, but he couldn't help but wish for more. He tried to be her star cleric, hoping he might be worthy of another visit and only became more obsessed with the idea of her. He currently borders on the edge of zealotry, but his sister, who remains a lay worshipper of Eilistraee, keeps him in check.
In BG3, it's kind of important to understand he's still obsessed with Eilistraee to a nigh unhealthy degree. She guides him through his journey in signs and symbols - to the point Coranzan believes Eilistraee guided his hand to spare and rescue Minthara.
Coranzan helps Minthara break out of Moonrise Towers.
So when she joins and freely speaks her mind about gods as she does, she grounds his She rightfully calls him "my little marionette" when chiding him about his relationship with Eilistraee. She reminds him that his goddess is not much more than a useful alliance, practically speaking, and his obsession goes too far. And if he truly followed her dogma, he would remember that Eilistraee values drow independence of gods and he's being very dependent on her approval. He needs this reminder, and it is does cool him off and recenter him. It's one of a number of bonding factors between him and Minthara.
I'm just browsing Coranzan's masterpost and you mentioned he has dyscalculia - how did that impact him growing up in Menzoberranzan and did it make it more difficult for him to read/learn music during his time in a theatre troupe? Sorry if this has been answered already, I'm just curious! As someone who has it, I don't really see people mention dyscalculia that much online so that bit of representation is always nice lol. Also no pressure to answer if you don't want to of course. I really enjoy your oc and hearing about him!
Thanks for the question, anon! I don't often get asks, so this has certainly never been answered previously! So please fire away if you have a curiosity, I'd love to yap about my guy!
This actually had a major impact on the trajectory of his young life in Menzoberranzan.
Menzoberranyr Coranzan.
But first! A little background (as I rarely talk about this outside of DMs):
By the time Coranzan was born, his family was starting up a little-known merchant guild, following the fall of his mother's/grandmother's House. It was a collaborative front between his parents (needing a cover for their Secret Moondancing movement) and the Coranzan's Vhaeraunite uncle (who also needed a similar cover for his own reasons).
Veldrin and Zil'haress - Coranzan's parents, Secret Moondancers, and founding members of their own merchant guild.
By Coranzan's 20s-30s, his family's main occupation was running it and he was expected to be a major part of managing it, after his sister. But there's a lot of numerical concepts involved in the administration of this guild and Coranzan found it immensely frustrating. Compounded with the fact that no one really knew how to help him (his sister did her best, but Coranzan loses his patience on this issue very easily), he tended to drift away from it at every opportunity.
At some point, he found himself quite adept in reading and retaining stories instead. He could recite something he'd recently learned within a few reads. Theater troupes and plays attracted his attention and he desired to be up there doing that instead. His ego and love of attention also being a major part of that desire.
A young Coranzan and his sister, Z'ress ( @susann-noir ), still living in the Underdark.
He got into trouble a lot by drifting away from his responsibilities, due to the amount of frustration that job gave him. He needed some kind of occupation to keep him out of trouble. His ego combined with his boredom resulted in his sister having to save his ass frequently.
His main focus was reciting and acting rather than musical performances at this time. When it came to music and rhythms as a part of plays, he scraped by with a lot of copying and practice and a little understanding of the fundamentals. His sister would coach him and guide him in the things he struggled with and it was enough to get by.
Young Coranzan as a theater actor in Menzoberranzan.
There's a lot of story details between here and there but this is the first domino to fall that led to his leaving the Underdark and converting to Eilistraee's Church. The decision to join a theater troupe ended up getting him caught up in House scheming that got him sent unprepared for a Surface Raid and nearly getting killed. A paladin showing him mercy gave him the chance to join his Secret Moondancer parents at the Promenade of the Dark Maiden instead.
Coranzan and Z'ress pleading to a paladin of Lathander.
Eilistraeens had a more compassionate approach towards teaching him math-adjacent skills, especially ones related to music and song - since that's deeply a part of their rituals. They recognized his issues and patiently worked with him to help him understand these concepts, particularly with regards to reading, writing music, and rhythms. They also managed to work on his impatience and lack of focus through rituals meant to calm him. He leans heavily on those.
Coranzan intensely focusing on his playing.
Coranzan's main focus as a bard is still not music, but he is far more comfortable with it now than he was before and indulges in it as a hobby and occasional entertainment for the camp. He still does not prefer to work in math-heavy concepts and rather leaves those concepts to his sister instead, who handles them with relative ease. He's far more adept than he was in Menzoberranzan, but he knows it's not his strength and finds it frustrating if he's expected to engage with numerical concepts for extended periods.
Thanks for the question, anon!! I hope this answered your question!
