#daemon and alys

[amanita-muscaria-things]

Caraxes watching Daemon stop to talk to Alys Rivers in the Godswood instead of dipping tf out:

[ride-thedragon]

Being in this fandom is so weird. I swear you'd need to come out with a post titled "What Daemon's dreams meant as someone who actually groomed two of their nieces and wanted to fuck their mom" for people to take you seriously at this point. Like not to infringe on author intention, but it's literally his actions and motivations being corrupted into accountability by Alys. Send tweet. It's not that serious.

[horizon-verizon]

If the leaks are true then Alys is definitely after Daemon’s dick lmao her bastard child is not Aemond’s I’m telling you that.

I don't know what leaks you refer to, as I've been off Twitter for a bit to look for employment. Sorry, anon.

Idk. either way, SA is being featured; Alys' or Daemon's. Yay....

[horizon-verizon]

The fact Alys killed FOR Daemon. Probably the most romantic thing someone has done for him, lmao. I hope they have sex and she does get pregnant with Daemon’s child, FINALLY someone who match his freak (you’d never hear the end of it from some quarters if Daemon did, the same people who are championing Rhaenyra cheating).

But seriously, Daemon asking Alys for help, her actually helping him and the last hallucination she gives him is that of reconciliation with his brother… I’m still processing this and what it’ll mean down the line. I need to know her motives because it can’t just be helping out Daemon ?? She calls them both chess pieces at the hands of larger forces… How far into the future has she seen ?

Besides that point she knows how Daemon dies, she told him “he’ll die in this place”, so why does she even help him ? And what about Aemond ? Like I wonder what the end goal is for her. Since she will know Aemond dies, imagine she doesn’t warn him about it when she met him which will be 100% funny.

First, this is nothing against you anon. But I don't take HotD's writing and characters at face value or value them bc I believe much of HotD's writng is superficial and too contradictory for that. Even without considering how they have made it so much easier to hate and misunderstand several F&B characters, general ASoIaF lore, etc., enough for people to think this war wasn't as anti-woman-leader focused as it was bc the showrunners have blatantly said they wish to make this more about "both teams bad, Targs are uniquely selfish".

Answer: (in case you weren't being facetious) Sorry, nothing is ever going to beat for me Alys getting impregnated by the craziest bitch of the greens, aka, anti bastard team. Other than that, show!Alys is not doing for Daemon but for the Riverland smallfolk, so yeah she doesn't care for Grover Tully that much. I believe she's meant to parallel Mysaria in HotD's endless love for "parallels".

I don't think the writers know what her end goal is, bc even this is not all that clear in the book as she disappears from history with her son. And I don't think that she has much to anticipate since unless HotD is trying to say that Jojen Reed was Alys' descendant, how did a Targ father contribute to any of Jojen or Meera's abilities in GoT or ASoIaF? Nah, this storyline is weird & jumbled.

As for Daemon asking for help, I think this is the "toxic-man-learns-he's-not-that-special-and-asks-for-a-woman's-help-to-raise-women's-importance" arc HotD has out for him in this season. An unnecessary one that contradicts the first one--and no 1x10 was bullshit esp the choking scene, so 🤷🏿‍♂️.

Finally, I don't blame some people having issue if Daemon did cheat with Alys bc if they are, like you, trying to enjoy HotD for its own thing and in this iteration of Daemon, he did choke Rhaenyra out. So yeah, he has less of a high horse if he did cheat. Other people's dislike for Daemon cheating may rather just come from their misunderstanding of his character, book or show, so they don't count.

[horizon-verizon]

I’m almost certain that Alys wants a king to give her a child. I think she tries to get Daemon to rise as a king and then she would seduce him to get pregnant with his son. Gayle Rankin talked about their relationship being transactional, Alys yearning for a human connection and how Daemon “is a part of her life and her purpose.”

She literally rubbed her belly as she asked Daemon in episode four “Do you now plan to make your own claim ?”

And the way Ryan Condal talk about them, “She penetrates him in a way that I think fascinates him, but also makes him very uncomfortable.”

I'm not very happy with this idea. Like, I'm all for women not being absolute victims and Alys did seem to use and finesse Aemond for her own safety as well as perhaps other reasons in the original text, but they going to work OVERTIME to explain why their Alys' CHOSEN ENTIRE life purpose is to birth a bastard for a lord. What are her ambitions? What sort of plan is she having? I have only watched on scene of them together and it was when she hands him that potion.

[horizon-verizon]

The idea of Daemon going down on his mother still sounds so unreal to me.

Now why do you have to put that image in my head, anon?

I really hope they won't go there...but yeah, it's possible. Not that I'd lover him dream-fucking Aemma and the show implying he desired her, but all this "Daemon fucking any diff possible Targ woman" also makes it seem as if either that Daemon is purely looking to rule through women over every other desire, thereby flattening his character like they've always done. Whereby by that same token, that's exactly what they'd do, so...