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(life caught up with me and in the meantime we overshot it a little BUT) i now OFFICIALLY have MORE FOLLOWERS than there are VENTURE BROS CHARACTERS WHO DEFECTED FROM THE OSI AT SOME POINT
in what I like to call the organisation with maybe the worst defection rate of any fictional military ever, there are - depending on how you count - maybe as many as 22 characters who have turned tail on their employer at some point during their storylines:
NUMBERS 1-6:
Hunter Gathers
Brock Samson
Sky Pilot / Mile High
Shoreleave
(unknown)
(unknown)
All six of these people defected from the OSI to form new SPHINX, and then turned right back around to rejoin the OSI when Treister handed it over to Hunter because that's LOYALTY. if you see any of them call, uh, me. call me please. i would also like to see them.
(I am not counting any of the other anonymous SPHINX guys because it's entirely possible they were recruited from other, non-OSI origins and just followed Hunter when she went back to the OSI because giant men love to follow her around. like ducklings)
NUMBER 7:
7. Billy Whalen / Billy Quizboy
Billy was drafted into the OSI under duress and narrowly avoided becoming a lifelong guineapig for the OSI's Psy-Ops, getting his memory wiped in the process. since then his memories of his time in the OSI have ebbed and flowed (and he has occasionally been forced back into the washing machine) but despite his decision to be a practicing protagonist, he retains a clear disdain for the OSI every time his memories do return. The work Billy performs often aligns with the OSI's goals, however he's not afraid to put his foot down and uphold his morals over the game of cat and also cat - most notably he refused to purposefully botch Monstroso's surgery, citing the Hippocratic oath as a greater calling than any of this superhero bullshit and cementing his position as one of the most morally sound characters in the show.
NUMBER 8:
8. Myra Brandish
Myra Brandish was an OSI agent assigned to the standard rookie detail of bodyguard duty, in her case for Dr. Thaddeus Venture. However, while the assignment was standard, her asset was not, and the combined stress of being under constant attack, the romantic relationship she formed with her asset, and his decision to gaslight her into thinking his lab-created children were actually somehow hers led Myra to become paranoid, obsessive, and ultimately violent. When the OSI attempted to relieve her of her duty, she defended herself (and, in her eyes, her children) and was subdued with force, after which she was taken into custody and ultimately ended up in the same facility which housed criminally insane Guild villains. Make of that shared arrangement what you will.
NUMBER 9:
9. Bobbi St. Simone / Madame Majeure
Bobbi St. Simone was forcibly recruited into the OSI by Jonas Venture Sr. (and two somebodies from Mister Branch) when she asked him to remove the invisibility powers he had given her some time earlier. Instead of doing what she fucking asked him to do, Jonas jumped at the opportunity to once again use someone as a tool for his own gain and forced Bobbi into a honeypot operation against his archenemy, Force Majeure. Bobbi proved to be too good at this assignment and soon became Majeure's partner in life as well as crime - the two fell in love and had a daughter, and while Bobbi kept the OSI at bay by snitching on everyone else on the OSI's Most Wanted list, they continued to hound her to give up her husband, too. When Majeure was killed by the Sovereign, Bobbi not only successfully escaped the shapeshifter's wrath, but went on the run from the OSI, too, and eventually managed to set up a quiet life for herself looking after animals that had been used and exploited by antagonists and protagonists alike, much like herself.
NUMBER 10:
10. Courtney Haine / Sergeant Hatred / Uncle Vatred
I legitimately have trouble keeping track of all the times the big man has switched sides. We know that during the 80s he was a member of the OSI, where he was used as a guinea-pig for SHED's super-soldier serum, but it is unclear whether he was a genuine OSI operative who then joined the Guild at the end of The Invisible Hand of Fate, or whether he was already working as a Guild mole within the OSI at that time. Regardless, he served as a supervillain for the Guild up until the end of Season 3, when he asked Treister for his old job in the OSI back and - incredibly - was granted it. He became the Venture family bodyguard for approximately two years, until the stars aligned and Brock was once again assigned as Rusty's bodyguard. Relieved of his field role, Vatred was offered a desk job (being entirely unsuitable for the only superscientist currently eligible for OSI protection) and chose instead to quit the OSI. Which was, frankly, a crazy decision. You know Hunter isn't giving him a pension.
NUMBER 11:
11. Steve Summers
Steve was an astronaut who died, badly, in an explosion, but was recovered by the OSI and rebuilt by SHED with $6 million worth of bionic body parts. They put him to work as an OSI agent and demanded that he pay them back for his new body, using the money they were paying him as an agent. Entirely reasonably, Steve decided the best way to deal with this situation was to fuck off into the woods forever and get gay married to bigfoot, in the process threading the incredibly fine needle of becoming close friends with Brock and successfully evading the OSI.
Steve is notable as not only one of the defectors who helps out others who have left the OSI (presumably his name is in that little book Hunter gives Brock in The Family That Slays Together Part I, and I need to know who else is in there SO bad), but also as the only character we see who successfully gives the entire game the slip. Even after the SPHINX defectors return to the OSI, Steve stays put in Canada. Even Bobbi remains tangentially related to the world of arching through her care of "henchbeasts" et al., but Steve remains put, motivated by one of the strongest drives present in the Venture-verse: being broke as hell.
NUMBERS 12-13:
12. Mister Cardholder
13. Mister Doe
These two dipshits were moles for the Guild who rose to become Treister's right and left hand men (presumably after everyone actually worthy of that position had flown the nest). They had the ingenious plan of becoming appointed the heads of the OSI (both of them? like were they going to share?) by making Tresiter think he was a Hulk, thereby getting him declared mentally unfit to serve as General. Lying to the guy who claimed to have invented the secret-keeping business went about as well as you'd expect, and the two were-
actually wait hang on. we never saw what happened to these guys after Sky Pilot got them at gunpoint in PROM. did he arrest them? blow their brains out right there and then? send them to some kind of horrifying OSI black site? I really want to know now goddamn.
NUMBERS 14-18:
14. Shuttlecock
15. Slapchop
16. Bum Rush
17. Junk Dog
18. Tank Top
This assortment of G.I. Joe rejects, remains and reheated leftovers were all - apparently - double agents. When Brock voices his horror at the idea of letting Molotov join the OSI at the end of O.S.I. Love You because he'd just seen her kill an obscene amount of his coworkers, Hunter says that they were all double agents. We have absolutely zero information about how she knew this, whether they were all in on it together or if the Guild was just throwing random individual guys at the hover-quarters and seeing what stuck, hell we don't even know if they were double agents for the Guild at all. They could have been PP guys for all we know. Or just people who happened to have pissed Hunter off at some point. The only thing we can say for certain is that they all have names that sound kinda like the tags on a weirdly twee gay porn website, which is presumably why Shoreleave was appointed their mission commander.
NUMBER 19:
19. The Creep / Mission Creep
The artist formerly known as Mission Creep was - according to himself - at one point the OSI's most valuable agent. Unfortunately, his zeal for the job led to him mistaking a Boy Scout troupe for a squad of enemy agents, and while the OSI aren't above using child soldiers, murdering a whole swathe of civilian children was enough to get him kicked out. Not, like, arrested or anything, though. Just kicked out. Where he was left to operate without supervision as an unlicensed supervillain who immediately set to hoarding some of the most powerful equipment in the show, including Grover Cleveland's Presidential Time Machine. Really wanged it on this one guys I can't lie - frankly they got lucky he had such a penchant for throwing lawn darts around.
AMBIGUOUS CASES:
NUMBER 20:
20. Afterburner
Yeah, this guy, also from O.S.I. Love You. Here's the thing, though, unlike the rest of those bozos, we never actually see this guy die. Which means he could have escaped, which - from how the infiltration mission is framed as a complete success - means he could be innocent. Of course, he could also just be another double agent who happened to die off-screen, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know he's embarrassed of his scars but I legitimately think he's pretty cute. Anyway.
NUMBER 21:
21. Agent Kimberly McManus
Agent McManus definitely remains employed by the OSI, so we can't say that she was kicked out or anything, but her career isn't exactly going great. I find it interesting that while she was disgusted by Guild Stranger S-464's being a member of the Peril Partnership, she never offered this intel to a more senior member of the OSI - Hunter had to hear about it from Dermott. Considering they're an intelligence agency in direct opposition to both the Guild and the PP, this would seem like a pretty major secret to keep. We have no indication of the OSI's regulations beyond their treaties with the Guild, but it would not be unreasonable to assume she could be charged with Dereliction of Duty in addition to Aiding/Fraternizing with the Enemy.
If she was, however, it seems her punishment only went as far as kicking her down a few rungs from "Sniper on Level 10 sting" to "pretending to be a truck driver to secure the perimeter of a Level 1 confrontation", which is insanely lenient for the OSI, frankly.
NUMBER 22:
22. General Timothy Treister
Handed the wheel of the hover-quarters to Hunter before expunging her treason charges, thereby committing a violation of UCMJ Article 103b - Aiding the Enemy at a level literally, textually, mathematically,
2500 TIMES WORSE THAN ANYTHING SHE EVER DID
A while ago you mentioned in a post how Brock had to give up being Native to join the OSI. Which i agree with, but i would like to hear more of your take on that
I think you're referring to one of the points brought up in this post by @commanderfreddy about the parallel between Hunter having to give up her gender identity and Brock having to give up his Native identity as part of being the OSI?
I feel like there is fertile ground there, we see repeatedly that characters wishing to be properly part of the OSI have to give up what makes them them as individuals. You could go a step further and add Shoreleave to this list - he's deliberately contrasted against Brock and Hunter in The Invisible Hand of Fate as a member of the OSI who fails to mesh with our POV characters into the OSI (Brock and Hunter), while also being openly gay, and we know he was eventually dishonourably discharged for his sexuality. Interestingly, in that episode we also see a certain degree of insecurity from Hunter in the way she talks to Billy - her emphasis on the word "freak" when she yells at Billy in the car, coupled with what seems to be ongoing respect for him even into the present day, seems like a really interesting combination. Maybe something even like jealousy.
Which is to say, I think giving up personal sources of joy and strength in favour of the OSI being your one and only rock is a big theme for the most prominent OSI characters. Personally I think it's an interesting and pointed choice that Hunter specifically points out Brock's Winnebago heritage right before declaring that "the Brock Samson you knew and were is dead". In the art book (p. 46), Doc Hammer mentions that even in Season 1, after 20(?) years with the OSI, Brock's idealised fantasy version of himself is as a stereotypical Native boy. "Boy", too, not "man". And they point out his mullet specifically, which I'm embarrassed to say I hadn't even thought of before, but we know Brock had his head shaved down to a crew-cut when he first joined the OSI, and cutting Native men and boys' hair short is one of the most pervasive assimilation/humiliation tactics used by settler-colonialist projects (especially missionaries) in the expansion of the United States across stolen land with an aim to erode Native culture and sovereignty.
I'm not Native myself, so I don't want to speak on things that are beyond my purview, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to see the insidiousness of a guy having to turn away from his Native heritage in order to become a perfect killing machine for the US government. In fact it's so on the nose that it's kind of baffling that the show never confronted it directly.
Unfortunately, Brock's Winnebago heritage is rarely brought up in the show at all. In a way that's realistic, he left Nebraska as a young man and - as far as we know - is no longer in contact with anyone from that part of his family, or anyone from his youth at all. In the artbook (ibid), Doc and Jackson mention wanting to have done an episode where Brock goes back to the life he left behind and visit his mother in her trailer and his father figure on the reservation. I would really have enjoyed seeing that. [Remembers Princess Tinyfeet] But Maybe We Dodged A Bullet.
(I think this is the post you were referring to, if I forgot a post I made myself let me know - it wouldn't be the first time I said something and then completely blanked on it ever happening)
something i love about venture bros is its attention to detail, which extends to its background characters. now obviously we all love the background villains like the egoist and vain gloria and the hazmat hat guy (and sometimes they even get promoted to plot-impacting roles! like st cloud!) but me being me i have a soft spot for Those Three Spy Guys.
you know.
these guys
i call em
Sluggo
Cool-nan O'Brien
and Garrett Wang for Parade Magazine 1997
For Hunter's partner pokemon, may I suggest Dragapult? It's like an aircraft carrier but its aircraft are also its kids. a mothership...
oh my god
i see the vision
The Pirate Captain's Ship (as commandeered by SPHINX) in S4E15, The Silent Partners
I've just found your account today but I have to say I love all your analysis, especially of hunter. I see people talk about the circumstance around her destransiton but never really getting into it and I really feel like I understand her a bit better thanks to you. (Plus I love you talking abt her relationship with Brock AND Shoreleave, he doesnt get mentioned as much when talking about them but its clear they all care abt each other a bunch)
Thank you! I feel like it's important to remember that Hunter wasn't written with much care or foresight, especially initially and especially with her transition treated as a joke and her detransition as a way for the show to reset her to status quo in order to deploy her as a serious character when she became more of a series regular. I don't remember who said it but someone on here put it very succinctly in saying that on Venture Bros, comedic characters can be trans, but serious characters have to be cis. That's also why they went to a lot of effort around Season 2 to make it clear that Dr. Girlfriend was cis (although I like to disregard that, too. Not only because I like it when trans women exist but also it felt so meanspirited and direct that it didn't even feel like a natural part of the narrative, it just felt. Screed-like.)
But I do like taking characters in that position and taking them seriously because... hmm. On one hand, I enjoy the puzzle, trying to create meaning where none was intended. On the other hand, nothing happens to any of us with much care or foresight, really, and oftentimes we have to make up ourselves as we go along. There are plenty of things I've done and said in my own life that don't align with my current values (or even my values at the time!) and I still need to find a way to reconcile them with the person I am and the person I want to be. And I think examining fictional characters is a useful way to practice that kind of emotional and intellectual work.
That is to say, I don't think there was any intentionality in portraying Hunter as someone who had to detransition in order to conform to a very directly patriarchal seat of power because she feels it to be the only way she could pivot a lifetime of service to a structure she no longer truly believes in toward doing actual good in the world, who is replicating paternalistic patterns of control from her superior who successfully ingrained a genuine level of affection in her despite everything unto her own subordinates in order to secure their personal loyalty,¹ who personally regrets it and longs to return but believes that she is beholden to greater responsibilities that are inherently incompatible with her being authentically herself in a way that contributes to nothing but her own happiness.
But I think it's possible to read that as a narrative, and it's one that's deeply personally compelling to me.
¹I don't care if I'm the only person on planet earth who does so - I will take the joking uses of "mommy" and "daddy" deployed by both Hunter and Treister deadly seriously and if you look at where they show up throughout the show, it reveals a lot both about the OSI's use of patriarchal framework of family as a means of control, and how Hunter alters her gender presentation throughout the show in order to better deploy it.
Opinions on Myra Brandish?
Thanks for your question!
I'm a big fan of several key things that define her character:
I love the trope of people who are assigned to each other falling in love, like even more so when its Weird. Like this is an OSI-themed blog so I don't talk about them much here but that's like one of the core appeals of petebilly to me lmao, how much they're stuck together. It got weird decades ago but they're still stuck together. Anyway.
I love the way her existence bounces off the main characters and how much we learn about them through their interactions with and reactions to her
And I love it when the show leans into how fucked up the OSI is and how deranged it is in terms of managing its agents
That being said, she is definitely one of the more blatant manifestations of the show's misogyny, through her design alone (though Lord knows I'm willing to overlook that to engage with a character I enjoy, like my Big Three includes Hunter) and also with her being a "hysterical" character. Honestly I feel like the hysteria angle could have been lessened if the show had leant into more of how just mind-wrenchingly torturous it would be to have Brock's job while also being a woman in constant close personal proximity to Rusty Venture. Because, frankly, I Get It. That would fucking ruin you, mentally.
Especially because Rusty says he "let her believe she was the boys' mother". The show really kind of breezes right by you with the implication but what Myra thought she was doing in The Invisible Hand of Fate was protecting her infant sons from armed forces her disdainful basically-husband had called on her. Putting yourself in her shoes is really chilling and it honestly leaves a bad taste in my mouth to think about how much of it was played for straight comedy (especially the like. visual joke of her appearance being an incongruent mix of conventionally attractive and unattractive traits like please do not demand an opinion on her body from me. I do not want to be in this seat of power with you. Stop pointing out the bra.)
All that being said, one of my favourite things they did with her was position her as an unintentionally abusive parental figure to Dean in Momma's Boys. Like
- - okay before we get into that actual episode, can I just point out how interesting it is that Myra, an OSI agent who was taken into OSI custody, was committed to the same mental facility which houses Guild members? Who runs that place? Lore for thought. - -
Myra showcases some classic manipulation tactics in that episode to try and get Dean closer to her, and more dependent on her, emotionally (which, frankly, isn't difficult. Season 5 Dean is going through an awful time and like nobody in his support system has any emotional intelligence. With Triana moved out he doesn't have an excuse to hang out with Orpheus much anymore, and he definitely doesn't have the confidence to approach much anyone on his own, so it's kind of a perfect power vacuum for someone like Myra to gain a foothold). It's clear she's doing this for very simple and understandable reasons:
she thinks Dean is her son
she is institutionalised away from anyone willing to be empathetic with her and so is in desperate need of human connection, and
Dean is a nice boy who throughout the series regularly shows empathetic connection with characters who are framed as not "deserving" it
But what I love love love love love is that she goes about doing it in such an insane way that requires so much skill and effort that repeatedly reinforces that (yes, she's insane, but also) she's a fucking spy. She gets everyone in Dunwitch Asylum (including several guards in addition to the inmates) on her side and basically into a fucking cult with her and pulls off some slick deceptions with the guards she hasn't managed to convert. I was just hype as hell to see her show off her skills lmao, though I was rather disappointed that her plan turned out to be more maternal obsession. I feel like I'm slightly more lenient on the motherhood stuff in this show just because it is a show about the inherent harm of being a parent lmao but I wish they had let Myra be more than just that, you know?
I wish we had gotten more from her in general - I would have liked to see more flashbacks about what it was like going from a highly skilled rookie agent to a dangerously unstable threat - every time we see her she seems solely one or the other.
TL;DR I like her a lot more in theory than in practice, but if there's one things vbros fans are good at doing its expanding on female characters through fanworks, so keep 'em coming please