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jason coming home to see tim and his friends zonked out in a cuddle puddle on the pull out couch in front of the end credits of a bad horror movie and like... specifically getting a blanket to cover tim And Only Tim LOL

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tim sucks so bad at conflict resolution and apologizing but like he TRIES and can you imagine Jason's reaction the first time tim showed up after an argument with flowers? like just the sheer incredulity, i think he would laugh in tims face and tim would be so fucking embarrassed and prickly and hed be like you know what these were a stupid idea-- and jason would like grab his wrist before he could dump the flowers and be like. don't you dare

he doesn't own a vase because they're both in their early-mid 20s and im envisioning a jay who only JUST started putting down roots in a real apartment and not his horrible warehousey safehouses he felt free to burn and abandon at any moment. so he doesn't fully have all the homey touches he will eventually get once he accepts that that's what he's doing, putting down roots. so Tim's apology flowers go in like a plastic darth vader Big Gulp cup or something. but he's gonna just so happen to buy a vase after that. there was a thrift shop, he was in the neighborhood, don't look at him.

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the fact that preboot jason never found out tim took jason red robin costume once he "got fired" (-tim, only in the privacy of his own head)/"graduated" (-dick, well-meaning)/"got thrown out with the other garbage" (-damian, hilarious)/"left" (-tim out loud, ignoring them both)

the way tim (reliable narrator) was like. yeah this costume is already tainted and i have to be willing to do morally gray things to prove bruce is alive. so thats why im wearing it. because its tainted. this is the most logical course of action and also the only reasonable explanation i retroactively landed on for a decision i already made

tim also having no way of knowing what the universe jason GOT THAT COSTUME IN WAS LIKE OR WHAT BRUCE DID FOR JASON IN THAT UNIVERSE

and its like well MY interpretation is that. yeah of course he wants to take on one of the outcast's identities to bring bruce back. and then of course hes going to just hang it up when bruce comes back because hes going to stop feeling like an outcast just as soon as bruce comes back and everything goes back to normal. This definitely doesnt signify a major change in the status quo or his role in the family (he *is* still family they signed the papers and everything, they gave him the name, it wasnt just pity its real hes still family he *is*, he hasn't been cast out, he *hasnt*) or his priorities or-- its temporary. when bruce comes back everything is going to be better and he wont need this suit anymore and hes going to hang it up just as soon as he stops feeling this way and everything is going to be fine.

smash cut to bruce upon his return doling out one (1) hug and immediately fucking off on a globe trotting vanity project and Tim just left staring after him like Oh. okay

(and like bruce was never like. going to be able to magically fix anything even if he *had* any interest in doing so. this was not a reasonable expectation tim had. some of the shit tim is losing his absolute marbles over does not actually even *need* to be "fixed." to be excessively clear.)

anyway i think jason "do you really think youre that good" "so work *with* me" "join me. be my robin" todd deserved the chance to really gleefully dig his fingers into every single one of those sore spots. GO FOR IT JASON. MAKE HIM WORSE

also like. god battle for the cowl was so unserious on every possible level but can you imagine if dick at the time had been like "i still cant figure out how he GOT OUT OF PRISON. he used the jla codes! how did he even get those!" and tim (guy who gave jason the fucking codes in robin 182) was just like

yeah. weird

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jaytim is so good. the flavor. wearing jasons dumpster costume explicitly as self harm. like

adventure comics 2009 #3.

also as ever FASCINATED by kon saying with total confidence and completely incorrectly that tims never been a cowl guy. baby did you FORGET the mask under his mask era

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can't stop thinking about the plushies in knight terrors either

and specifically i do think tim is someone with pretty intense object empathy and what this made me think of was, like, tim at one of Jason's awful bare warehousey-safehouses and something that strikes him is that jason doesn't have any creature comforts and he thinks back to his own bed and he just. decides. he's gonna give jason a dumb little plushie. bc i think tim is someone who feels tangibly less alone with one, and while he's aware that jason probably doesn't feel the same way, it'll at least make him feel better about thinking about jason spending his nights in this place.

and jason is so BAFFLED by the gift bc yeah he doesn't really have that emotional response with toys but also. like. no fucking takebacksies. like it's meaningful to him just bc it WAS a gift, he doesn't really grasp that it was tim seeing how lonely jason was and wanting to alleviate some of it by doing something that would have helped him. and i think months and months down the line its going to dawn on jason what tim was doing and why and he's going to have to have a little cry about it

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(trying to explain jaytim) what if the cautionary tale and the thing that spawned in its wreckage that couldnt exist without him on purpose kissed

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to me i dont think that nonserious physical injuries are real to jason at all like they barely register whether they're on him or on someone else, but to tim things like little cuts and scrapes are 1. concrete problems 2. that he can do something about, so they light up the center of his brain that goes "TIMMY FIX"

and it sincerely doesnt matter who it is who has the scrapes like tim by default is going to try to fix anything he perceives as within his power to fix. thats who he is thats what he does. like yeah he probably wouldnt go out of his way to do it for someone super evil like sionis or someone he, personally, really hates like digger harkness or if he happens to be really mad at that person right that minute but otherwise. at minimum hes making sure *somebody* sees to their minor injuries.

and i just :chinhands: i like to think about jason realizing that tim cares by default about it when something happens like jason cuts himself while chopping vegetables. like jason blows him off and tells him to calm down and tims like a dog with a bone when he feels the need so like no actually you're going to sit down and accept your bandaid and neosporin. and jasons so baffled like tim im a grown ass 20 or 30 year old man i can get my own band aid. but just having someone consistently notice and care about small hurts that not even jason notices or cares about

and its once again literally not bc jason is special. its just that tim by default cares about people and jason is, technically, people. bc tim is not at all a subscriber to jasons school of thought that people ever stop being people, therefore tim is not going to ever think jason should stop being treated like a person. but theres jason understanding that cerebrally and then there's being regularly confronted with the fact that if jason is careless and burns his hand by accident tims going to make him put his hand under cold water because that matters to him. that regular, automatic care about little things not even jason cares about. and jason going from bewilderment to mild irritation to understanding to 🥺🥺 to. inevitably kind of wanting to get hurt on purpose just to get more of that and also just to test to make sure its not a fluke. They

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piningy Jason is so good bc his dramatic ass is like. this is the worst thing ever experienced by anyone i have to listen to opera and then hurl myself into the ocean. and then the guy hes thinking about is this like. well look at him.

dont throw yourself into the ocean about him man. its embarrassing. as we speak hes eating flamin hot cheetos out of the bag with chopsticks so jt doesnt get cheeto dust into his light up keyboard he made so its got his red robin symbol on it. which he just dropped one on and he said "aw nuts" out loud. NO DONT SIGH DREAMILY--