#stardates

[stra-tek]

This is how Stardates in TNG and DS9 (and supposedly TOS, even though Gene Roddenberry is on record saying they were random numbers) were *supposed* to work, from the Official Star Trek Fan Club of the UK #4 (1994). By Terry Jones.

[startrek-eridani]

Okay, so I may be going slightly insane over this project. This realisation came when I found myself composing a calendar and searching for the appropriate stardate, to be clear

(I really love this btw. I can’t wait to post what I’ve been working on)

Oh my that is awesome! And of course a calendar for the stardates is a truly useful tool in that situation.

In case you needed it, Season 1 of Eridani is set during the first year of it's mission, soon after Saavik assumed command of the vessel as Captain, in 2296. So the series is set 3 years after The Undiscovered Country and the first part of Generation, which take place in 2293. The mission later ends in 2300, but we only four years out of five, corresponding to the four seasons of Star Trek: Eridani.

(To be entirely frank, I haven't been using the full stardates myself in my own planning, but hope this can be helpful!)

(And we can't wait to see it!! Thanks for the ask and enthusiasm on this project!)

[ebonysolcum]

Anyone want a complete (I hope) list of all of Voyager's Stardates?

Also includes dates for "Year of Hell".

Voyager Stardates

Stardates Episode,Title,Staredate,Earth Date,Notes,Key Season 1,<a href="https://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm">Converter Used</a>

Earth dates calculated using This Converter.

[teitpp]

It took a whole season before one of the non-timey-whimey Prodigy episode logs wound up with a little stardate error.

I used Trekguide and Hillschmidt.de's calculators for this because I know some folks like both. (Trekguide bases its calculations off of a long list of canon calendar-to-stardate calculations. Hillschmidt just assumes that xx000=Jan 1 and xx999 = Dec 31, which I prefer because it makes star dates more predictable.)

Back to the point. Up until the final one, there really hasn't been anything off in the Admirals logs, which are my main source of how much time is passing in Prodigy. Dal only bothers to give a captains log with a star date in a handful of episodes and the one time HJ gives one that I recall is during the temporal nonsense in Time Amok, where we can assume the computer is a bit confused.

By both calculators: We can assume about a month passes between the kids escape into the Neutral Zone, ship repairs, and KJ's Mindwalk/Supernova part 1 log.

Things get fuzzy after that. Supernova part 2 says that there is 1 month between the battle and the kids arrival on Earth, which should mean that the post-Supernova part 2 log, 1 week after their arrival needs to be 5 weeks after the battle...

By both calculators... the time between the admirals logs it's barely 2 days. 😂

I computed some more accurate dates for the kids arrival and the admirals log. You can pop them into your preferred calculator to determine the correct stardates.

[uss-exile-ncc-440548]

Spirits, Stardates are just...weird. SNW's and TOS' seem all out of whack and overlap each other (no matter what order you're looking at TOS in, I'm using Alpha's/the production order but that does not help).

[heroofthreefaces]

Writer, executive producer, and first season showrunner on Star Trek: Picard, Michael Chabon, eschewed the use of stardates, stating in an Instagram story dated 26 February 2020:

Stardates, in my view, and I know this is going to make some people mad, are a uniquely perverse form of uninformative information. Using a stardate tells you precisely nothing. Even people who know how to interpret and convert them have to go off and interpret and convert them to have them mean something. Giving an audience the stardate is like I wanted to know if I needed to put on a sweater or not, and you told me the temperature outside in Kelvin. 'It's 287 out.'

Where I think Chabon went wrong in this is that Stardates do have relation to each other. Roddenberry set out establishing that each thousand in a stardate was one year of the five-year mission (which means the stardates beginning in 5 in the third season of TOS tell us that we were with them for the whole mission), and 1000 in a stardate=1 year held true through all the first and second Roddenberry administrations and the Berman administration (even if Bennett didn’t pay attention) (and even though there are some hinky pre-41000.0 stardates in some Berman-era flashbacks). That’s a baseline that could be built on, though it could have been more transparent in-text.

Of course the Abrams administration blew all that out of the water. That’s another timeline but, except in the Prodigy and Lower Decks offices, no one in the Kurtzman administration seems to have either a clue or a fuck to give, so it’s no wonder there was no one to tell Chabon what he’d’ve needed to hear.

[ichayalovesyou]

So, as some of y’all already know, I’ve been playing around with writing a (mostly) canon-compliant slow burn Spirk (that might eventually include Bones-based ships) fanfic that is basically an Epistolary of personal logs, “off-camera” scenes that occur during and between missions, and messages back home.

I’ve been ordering the ebb and flow of the Spirk dynamic using the pre-existing Stardate chronology that makes the most sense to me.

However!

I kinda wanna reorder the episodes slightly to make the evolution of their relationship more dramatic and organic. It won’t be hugely divergent from the pre-existing template I’m using, and will still be mostly canon compliant as far as release order. I’m not gonna slap season 3 episodes into a sea of season 1 episodes if you know what I mean.

The final result would be:: Watch TOS in this order for MAXIMUM gay energy.

I’d also have little footnotes about where I think Kirk & Spock are at in their relationship.

I haven’t finished season three so I probably wouldn’t release it until I’ve finished the show, but-

Would anyone be interested in seeing once it’s done?

Edit: It has begun! This link will take you to the flirting/falling in love stage!

Update: I can’t not do McSpirk apparently, it’s too good, so there’s that! Lmao

[nerdicornthetrekkie]

Hi, just found out that stardates make sense but only in the reboot movies where they’re just a format for the gregorian calender. I fucking hate this information but if I ever need a stardate for a fanfiction or something I’m using the aos system bc it gives me less anxiety. Like I know the writers of star trek just make up random numbers but I feel like there is a system that like one superfan can see and I’m gonna get it wrong.