KEVIN DUONG, The People as a Natural Disaster, The American Political Science Review, Vol. 111, No. 4 (November 2017), pp. 786-800
on the Montagnard idea behind regicide, mostly on setting your mindset in the right contexts
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KEVIN DUONG, The People as a Natural Disaster, The American Political Science Review, Vol. 111, No. 4 (November 2017), pp. 786-800
on the Montagnard idea behind regicide, mostly on setting your mindset in the right contexts
hey just so you know when i googled "adam nagaitis scurvy" your Terrorwatch blog posts were like, third result. anyway hi yes Bridgens and Peglar invented love.
My best guess has been that it's the surprisingly and durably popular Hannibal recaps I wrote in 2015/2016, but it does seem to be the case that for years now, my url has been SEO'ed to the hilt, given the amount of times I also have Googled something and found: my own Tumblr blog
Score another one for Duck Duck Go in that I do NOT show up there with this search!!!! But on Google yes you are right there I am…. right under Reddit….
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bro-stoevsky replied to your post “bro-stoevsky replied to your post “omfg have you watched it. the...”
i can see how it's like, questionable. but if the show explores the whole character it's like wut do u write about you know? anyway, i'm happy u tried the wine. serve chilled, with a can of veal cutlet & tomato
No but exactly!!!! I have approximately 0.1 interest in fan works about things that already have well developed characters/emotional storylines, but when you have room to play and discover and deepen, oh boy, that can be Fun and Great
Oh fun I cannot read “veal cutlet & tomato” without pronouncing it “tomahto”, but also that might be because I am starting to faintly gag !
bro-stoevsky replied to your post “omfg have you watched it. the cold show”
oh my goodness gracious i have missed a lot! so ok i'm gonna dig in but i will say 1. i watched 2 episodes of the show when it first came on and was like "well this is garbage" and then six months later i think i woke up in a cold sweat Desperate For More, so it might need to breathe and be decanted, so to speak. 2. i see a comment about les mis here which is VERY APT it's like the show gave us a sparing brief and we all went just absolutely hogwild
DECANTED. Yes The Terror is currently resting on my counter in one of those faintly sinister looking glass receptacles that look like a poison bottle designed by CB2. Every day I pour a little more, and am like, hmm is this a newly revealed flavor, like, *swirling*. The rest of the people in my life ask if I’m really still drinking this old wine. I am.
There is truly something so special and fun about collectively filling in characterization!!! I’m in awe at the ideas every time. Writers rooms tremble.
omfg have you watched it. the cold show
As @darkartsandcrafts said to me recently: “The difference between us is that you watched this in December, while I would have watched it in August.” WHY YES I DID. It was finally: time. For the cold show.
Okay, bro. My long tumblr buddy. At one point I literally apologized to you in my tags on one of my Terror posts for enjoying this show in the wrong way. :( I find its structure both REALLY NEAT and REALLY FLAWED and I think it’s interesting(ly not at all what I was pitched!) to watch this cold stark world full of these simple representational figures who die in increasingly harrowing ways until you reach a denouement that’s fucking haunting—and these are not the ways the fans seem to like this show!
But I don’t know, would not a Fan be someone who has been doing nothing since finishing this show besides listening to eerie experimental ambient concept albums about doomed polar expeditions and playing a DAYS LONG & hysterical game of Fuck Marry Kill: Terror Edition with @memory-for-trifles? Whatever that is, that is me.
Anyway here’s the saga starting at the beginning, appropriately with “[He screams]!”
I just realized what show I should have brought up as a point of comparison when I said The Terror isn’t character-driven, because I can tell that’s being interpreted as a ding, when it isn’t!
Another show that is Not Character-Driven: Star Trek: The Original Series
“but TOS has such great characters!” Yeah! Because being plot-driven doesn’t mean the characters suck or you never learn anything about them, it just refers to the structure.
In TOS, as in The Terror, there are characters on a ship (or two), and in each episode they encounter things. (I think it is a coincidence that these shows are both naval/paranaval [singing] not at all!) Generally, what they encounter has NO RELATION to who the characters are, it is simply outside forces that make themselves present. In The Terror this takes the form of things like weather, tuunbaqs, and leaded tins; in TOS it’s aliens, mostly. Sometimes ship malfunctions. (The Terror: ‘hey we got those too!’) The characters then respond to these circumstances, and it is in their reactions that we get the characterization. You can get all sorts of characterization from this structure, throwing shit at them is a great way to develop your characters. Incidentally, also frequently not character-driven? Fanfiction! Any of the ones with a pull-a-number-out-of-a-hat sort of premise (say, There Was Only One Bed). And hey a lot of those tropes: come straight from plot-driven TOS.
In things that are character-driven, as opposed to ~circumstances~ the characters are mostly just encountering [dramatic music sting] each other. Therefore, what they encounter IS who they are. Just to pick an example where I know I have an extremely apt quote: Hannibal is a character-driven show, in which the character of Hannibal at one point literally says of his upbringing: “Nothing happened to me. I happened.” In these types of stories, what happens in the plot is mainly determined by the choices and personalities of the characters---the action is more individual-based than incident-based. You’re actually gonna have to get a bit more creative with what you use to build characterization in character-driven stories, and usually, though not always, it’s going to end up involving a good deal more transformation. Listen I love the TOS characters, I love them so much, and I think we can all admit that they don’t like, change much, over the course of the series. And that’s fine! ‘Plot-driven’ or ‘character-driven’ is not a value judgement, merely a description of form.
Now of course, not all shows fall clearly into one camp or the other. The Good Place, for instance, would be one that I think plays in both plot- and character-driven camps at once in a really fun way. But some shows are clear, and the show where two shipfulls of 19th-c British explorers head into the Arctic and are nigh immediately beset by an escalating sequence of problems, is one of them.
(Post-script: Generally plot-driven shows tend to be pretty active, and The Terror doing that structure with the slow ass pace that's usually only found in character-driven stuff like your Mad Mens, is something I find fascinating and cool about this series. It’s really UNUSUAL. It’s neat.)
Sorry, I did not mean to make you feel bad about sharing your take. I very much enjoyed reading it. I was just sad that you didn't enjoy it as much as others have. I have my own takes on the Terror that I am sure others would find very bizarre (Hickey bores me). Keep sharing your truth; I should have mentioned how much I appreciate that.
Oooo, coming in with the hot Hickey takes! I love it!
Oh dear anon, it seems we just ended up in like, a crossed understanding there for a little while, but I hope you are also with me now in this: that The Terror is a show we both have found thought provoking, and we share that, just as we share the ability to converse about someone called Cornelius Hickey, where much of the rest of the world would be like, whom? And like, their snowy loss.