#tg meta

[limpwristjesus]

Thinking about how Hide has been soft launching eating your crush way before Kaneki’s metamorphosis

[ipsen]

eto's clothes

i love how her fashion choices always cover a good 90-100% of her body and are like "baggy bc she was supposed to have grown into it 6 years ago" except for when she's going cruel ghoul mode:

something about

[post-tg]

Characters from Tokyo Ghoul whose hair changed color through their transformation

Kishou Arima and Yusa Arima

Are half-humans capable of premature aging, which causes their hair to turn gray more due to their biology.

Juuzou Suzuya

Unlike other characters, he is one of the few humans who appears to have albinism due to the presence of red eyes, a color only albinos possess. It is unknown whether Juuzou's hair changed due to Big Madam's torture. Although there was an original concept that Juuzou's hair was orange.

Currently, his hair is dyed black as a form of mourning following Shinohara's vegetative state.

Ken Kaneki

It is a known case that Kaneki's hair color is due to Antoinette Syndrome caused by stress. However, this was changed because the suppression of RC cells leads to increased melanin production. This also occurs in humans because they have RC cells in their bodies.

Kaneki's hair changed every time he suffered multiple injuries or through symbolism and decline, reflecting the personality he would have now.

His transformation into a dragon is complex. It's unknown whether Kaneki became a dragon, remains an artificial one-eyed ghoul, or both due to contact and a relationship with the dragon, but his hair grew a little. Currently, his hair is still white, and he appears to be physically restored thanks to the dragon.

Seidou Takizawa

Like Kaneki, Takizawa's hair turned from brown to white when he was with Kanou and his RC cells were suppressed during experimentation. He also became an artificial one-eyed ghoul.

He currently lives as a ghoul with no return to his former normal life.

Supposedly, his lifespan is decreasing, possibly due to s tress.

Tooru Mutsuki

Tooru's case is complex because she was human before. At the beginning of :re, Tooru is a Quinx (still human) but the result of a failed sur gery led to ghoul-like consequences. However, this gradually changed as Tooru fell deeper into despair and the stress Torso caused her (which turned her hair white) led to a ghoul transformation shortly after (likely triggering her). Similar to Urie's transformation, but this time it's more artificial, like Kaneki's.

In the end, Tooru's hair appears to return to normal thanks to Sui's sketches. Her biological condition is unknown.

Rize Kamishiro

Rize had purple hair and was a ghoul wanted by the Washuu.

Her hair turned white due to the suppression of her RC during her dragon transformation. She was captu red by Arima and later by Furuta, who used her as a womb for the Oggai.

Currently, Rize has become part of the Dragon itself, so she doesn't seem to react.

Shikorae

Previously a ghoul with light green hair due to the Jail game.

Because he joined Aogiri, as an adult, his hair grew long and dark, most likely due to the filth of the place. He is slender with a muscular build.

He is currently in a kakuja state; his limbs have become thin, along with four other limbs, and his long hair still covers his face.

Oggai

They were human children aged 11-13 who became a new ghoul race thanks to Rize's kagune and Qs's research.

Their hair turned white after breaking their two halves and suppressing their RC cells.

Final

[kyanitedragon]

Do you think Kaneki annotates his own books or is a "they must be kept as pristine as possible" kind of guy?

Do you think he annotates his books in the hopes that one day, even if only when he's gone, someone will find his books and read through his notes and be able to connect with him? Like how he connected with his own father?

Do you think that Hide went "snooping" through his books during that 6 month timeskip, and cracked open a few? He never really had an interest in Kaneki's annotations before (given he thinks Kaneki's book taste is dry and depressing) but now he craves that connection with his friend more than ever. Maybe a peek into his psyche could help.

[chertpole]

Projection and conflict avoidance

Arima is shown as a cold-blooded, indifferent character, nevertheless capable of affection, and at heart a kind person.

We see how he shows his soft side with Taishi, Ui, Hirako, Quinxes.

And then these scenes appear.

In which he is unnecessarily cruel, cruel without apparent need. And as if after these shots you can say that he is just a cruel man.

But this is not the case. He has a cruel job, but he is not cruel in it. I mean, he uses just as much violence as is necessary in his work, without exceeding this level. He's a mass murderer, but he doesn't torture prisoners, he respects death.

That is, I am leading to the fact that he is essentially a kind person who doesn't like violence. But there are scenes with Kaneki. Moreover, Kaneki is the only person Arima shows excessive cruelty to, cruelty for no reason.

Much of Tokyo ghoul is based on parallels and repetitions. Therefore, before looking into Arima and Kaneki's relationship, I want to consider other characters who show excessive violence, at first glance for no reason or for a rather inconsequential reason.

Eto — Kanae

By the time of their quarrel, the following is known about Eto: she is a mass murderer, a good manipulator, and although she has a tendency to be violent, she avoids unnecessary or excessive cruelty. Other scenes show that she is capable of compassion and kindness, that deep down she is a kind and gentle person who is angry at this world for a reason.

And most often, her cruelty has a clear justification (in her teenage years, she was hunted, and if she hadn't shown cruelty, she wouldn't have survived).

But in the case of Kanae, everything is different. Kanae is nobody for Eto: they are not bound by personal enmity, Kanae cannot upset the plans in any way.

But Kanae is like Eto — he is rejected by his own family, even if not like Eto, but his family perceives him as a servant, not as a family, he is lonely, he is angry. But unlike Eto, Kanae craves love from his family, and declares it. Eto denies that it wants to be loved. But that's what she really wants.

Kuzen, besides abandoning his child in the most dangerous area of Tokyo, repeatedly spoke of his love for his daughter, and regretted that his daughter did not have the same feelings for him.

Being an orphan with a living father, living in very difficult conditions and knowing that she would have had a different life if her father had tried to act differently, it all traumatizes Eto at the deepest level.

And since the actions of the father and the words of the father seem to be incompatible, she rejects the very concept of love. Love itself considers Eto a weakness. She manipulates other people several times, using their attachments and ridiculing the very existence of affection.

This explanation helped her survive. And this explanation reduces her pain. Because if love does not exist, Eto is just a by-product, which means there is no connection between parents and children, which means that what doesn't exist and or what is inherent in weak people cannot harm her.

She doesn't seek to solve her parental conflict, she seeks to devalue it in her eyes, not to get involved in this conflict emotionally. While Yoshimura gives their relationship the highest value.

And there is Kanae, who, having a similar parental conflict, is very hungry for love. And Kanae is mad at Kaneki because he feels Kaneki is taking away what belongs to Kanae, the master of Shu.

Didn't Yoshimura choose to save Kaneki instead of saving his own daughter?

To ignore Kanae for Eto is to admit that her vision of the conflict may be wrong.

Because Eto is afraid to admit that her parents loved her very much, and abandoned her, continuing to love her very much. That her childhood was full of violence because her parents loved her and thought it would be better for her. Because if she was loved, then she has a connection with her parents, then she is still dependent on her parents, she wants to be loved. And given that this considers love to be a weakness, then she will inevitably have to admit that she is weak, that she has been defeated, that she is broken.

And if she changes her mind, if she admits that love exists, that her parents loved her and hurt her, and that wanting love is completely normal and it doesn't make a person weak, then she will have to relive this conflict, and it can break her, break her picture of the world.

To ignore Kanae for Eto is to allow herself to break down. But if she persuades Kanae, proves him wrong, then she can continue to devalue and avoid her conflict, because by avoiding and devaluing, Eto feels safe.

And excessive rigidity in her the eyes looks justified when her safety is at risk.

Takizawa — his colleges

During the entire first part, Takizawa is shown as a sometimes rude or harsh, but kind guy. A guy who's not violent at all. Yes, he kills ghouls, but because he is ignorant about them.

His first appearance in re looks like this.

And it seems to suggest that after becoming a ghoul, he went so crazy, so angry, that cruelty is the only thing he is capable of.

But this is not the case. Further chapters show that despite the fact that he is not okay, despite the fact that he has definitely become tougher, he has not lost his empathy, he is still kind, he continues to take care of the people dear to him.

Then why, in his first appearance, does he show excessive cruelty to his former colleagues (he was less cruel to the Tatara, whom he personally hates)?

As Takizawa himself would later say, he was defeated. For the first time, becoming a ghoul. For the second time, stopped fighting for my humanity.

He, one of the best students of the academy, aspiring to become a good investigator, has to change his worldview in a harsh and painful way, against his will.

Becoming someone he used to fear and hate, he does not know how to treat himself (for this, special thanks to Dr. Kano and his method of feeding experiments). And not knowing how to cope with the new reality, deprived of support, he avoids comprehending the new reality - because he doesn't know how to comprehend it.

The auction makes him begin to comprehend this reality — for the first time he clearly sees that he is now a stranger to his own people. He sees how those whom he used to consider his own react to him.

And he recognizes himself in these colleagues. That is, in his mind, the reaction of his colleagues to him is the reaction of his past to his present. And if he used to think ghouls were monsters, now he, the ghoul, is a monster.

And although he admits that he has become a monster, he doesn't want to admit it. And this is a very painful internal dissonance that he wants to get rid of. And still not knowing how to cope, he decides to get rid of those who cause this dissonance. In the hope that this will solve his problems.

Later, Takizawa tries to reflect on what happened, but at that moment he is so lost, scared and angry with himself that he cannot do anything else.

Mutsuki — Akira

Although Mutsuki has a penchant for cruelty, he strives to be a kind guy. He is sensitive, attentive, sympathetic. In fact, Mutsuki is the kind of person who endures and accumulates anger for a very long time, and then at one point throws out everything that he has accumulated.

It may feel like Mutsuki is attacking Akira for protecting Takizawa. But this moment happens before Akira protects Takizawa.

Akira and Mutsuki clash almost immediately after Mutsuki gets out of Torso's captivity, he is traumatized, disoriented and angry. But at the same time, he is happy to see the Quinxes, but the attitude towards Akira is different.

Mutsuki sees many similarities between himself and Haise. And Akira is Haise's mom. Mutsuki generally strives to be like Haise (reads the same literature, builds his judgment about people based on Haise's opinion), it all happens subconsciously. But most likely, he is also subconsciously aware of Akira as well as his mother figure.

Most likely he compares his life with the life of Haise. When Haisa's memories come back, he distances himself from others. Mutsuki's mother distanced herself from him. Mutsuki seeks to justify Haise in his eyes (so Touka forced him to leave, and not Kaneki abandoned the Quinxes). And perhaps, in this aspiration, he mistakenly believes that it was Akira who distanced herself from Haise and ignored him during a difficult period. Just like Mutsuki's mother. Just like Akira didn't do anything to save Mutsuki.

Being under the influence of trauma, Mutsuki is not able to approach information critically. He transfers his anger at his mother to Akira, and the fact that she protects Takizawa, he uses as an excuse to attack her. He doesn't care about her betrayal of CCG, he cares that Akira betrayed him.

Later, while continuing to project, Mutsuki tries to justify this hatred and his actions for himself.

Although parallels and repetitions are important for Tokyo ghoul, of course these situations are not identical, and have both similarities and differences, and I'm not going to judge some relationships based on others through parallels or say that relationships are similar just because there are similar elements.

However, parallels help highlight common themes and problems, so I want to focus on this and talk a little bit about what these situations are like before moving on to Arima and Kaneki.

Eto, Takizawa, Mutsuki and Arima went through harsh treatment at different periods of their lives, went through a very traumatic experience that they could not work out.

Because of this, they have developed an addiction to violence. In other words, they consider moderate rigidity to be habitual, acceptable and natural.

By their nature, they are all kind, capable of empathy and affection.

They refuse to reflect (completely or temporarily, because they are afraid that an attempt to comprehend the trauma will be more destructive for them than the trauma itself).

They are excessively violent because they project their unresolved problems onto other people.

Arima — Kaneki

Although I could have touched on their relationship right away, but I was just interested in seeing how other characters cope in similar situations.

So, as I said, Arima is a kind person in himself, avoiding violence beyond what is necessary (in other words, a certain amount of violence is considered completely normal for him, because it has always been present in his life, but he avoids the abuse of violence).

And if what happened in V-14 can be considered just a brutal detention, and try to justify it by saying that Arima and Kaneki are not familiar at that moment in time, and Arima is just fighting a dangerous ghoul, then in other examples they are not only familiar, but also have an emotional connection. And that's why I'm going to look at these examples.

First of all, I want to draw attention to the fact that Arima was going to use Kaneki at first, and only then became attached to him. And this is a new experience for him. Although all the leaders in Aogiri use humans and ghouls for their own purposes, this experience is new for Arima because he has to raise Haise (it is unclear whether his amnesia was planned or accidental, but it is obvious that at first he has the consciousness of a baby and Arima goes through all the stages of growing up with him) and use it for his own purposes.

I should immediately note that although Arima leads a squad of solar children, he gets them "ready", so the experience of upbringing and use is new for him.

And it seems to me that Arima can justify using another person as a weapon for himself, while this person is nothing to him. But it is much more difficult to justify for himself the use of a person dear to him in the same way.

I want to make a digression again, but an important digression. Arima and Kaneki are similar. And I want to touch on these similarities, and how it affects their relationship.

1. They have been harshly treated by their family, and ignore what happened.

2. Both are passive. Despite their desire to change this world, they act slowly or avoid action.

3. They don't consider themselves human. But then differences creep in: Kaneki begins to consider himself a ghoul in order to justify his rigidity to himself. Arima considers himself a weapon or a tool, ignoring the fact that he is a living person (it seems to me that he simply couldn't overcome his upbringing).

4. They want to be loved. But again, there are differences. Kaneki knows that there are people who love him (Touka, Hinami, Akira), but it is difficult for him to accept their love, so he substitutes concepts, believes that he is not loved enough, and wants more people to love him. Arima doesn't know that there are people who love him (there is definitely a bitter irony in this, because he is such an adored investigator), and proceeds from the concept that it is impossible to love him, and he makes many of his decisions based on this concept.

5. Their desire for love makes them selfish. Kaneki, feeling that he doesn't have enough love, wants those who love him to love even more, and commits those actions that, in his opinion, will make other people love him more (trying to sacrifice himself several times), not realizing that the reason is that he doesn't love he is himself, and as a result he hurts others. Arima, based on the fact that it is impossible to love him, decides for other people, and cannot trust them, although it is likely that Fura, Akira or Ui would really be able to help him if he turned to them.

6. They distance themselves from people. Kaneki cut off all ties with dear people several times. Arima, although he does not leave people physically, distances himself emotionally, closes herself off, stops trusting, lies and pushes away from himself.

Arima hates himself. He's mad at himself. And Kaneki looks like him. And Arima, getting closer to Kaneki, begins to project himself on him more strongly, and throws some of his anger and hatred at him. And this, coupled with the fact that Arima doesn't live well with his own emotions and avoids solving his problems, already creates a destructive connection. And this is the first reason why Arima is being cruel to Kaneki.

The second one just goes back to where I started: Arima must educate, and then use Kaneki, to whom he is already attached, and on whom he projects his own problems and emotions.

Their relationship, unknowingly, is aggravated by Haise, calling Arima a father.

(Although Arima asked Akira to become a mother figure for Haise, he himself didn't seek to become a father figure, rather a mentor, and this is a big difference) (of course, Haise cannot be blamed for what is happening, since he has no idea what internal conflicts Arima is exposing. Arima doesn't know about it himself).

Tsunayoshi saw Arima as just a tool, raised a child soldier out of him, didn't let him feel his own importance and was ready to sacrifice his own child for his own purposes at any moment. And Arima will have to do the same with Kaneki, deal with him in a way that cruelly traumatized himself.

The fact that Haise considers their relationship to be a family one makes Arima project Tsunayoshi onto himself and hate himself even more.

He is cruel to Kaneki because his father was cruel to him. He blames Kaneki for his own violence because he himself was a victim who was accused of being abused.

Arima faces a difficult choice. He can save Kaneki, not sacrifice him, not make him OEK. But the Aogiri have been looking for an OEK for four years, if not more. And during this time, a huge number of people and ghouls have already died, a huge amount of resources have been spent, and if he doesn't continue to use Kaneki, then the sacrifice of everyone else will be meaningless, and although he is quite indifferent to Aogiri's affairs, but he also values lives (ironically, but in this story mass murderers like Eto, Arima, Yoshimura, Takizawa, Mutsuki, Juuzou value other people's lives) and feels the weight of responsibility. Also, if Kaneki becomes an OEK, Arima has a chance to justify the lives he took to himself, although he will not get rid of hatred.

But on the other hand, as Kaneki's father, he has to do everything to save his child. To do what his father didn't do for him.

In other words, to do what he thinks is right, and what is expected of him by people who have trusted him (Eto, Tatara) means to act like his father. To betray the trust of these people, to devalue their sacrifices for the sake of Aogiri, to let dead people die in vain gives Arima the opportunity to break the painful and vicious circle of family relationships. And it's a really hard choice that Arima can't handle.

And he takes out the anger from the existence of this choice on Kaneki. Because if it wasn't for Kaneki, this choice wouldn't exist at all. Because Tsunayoshi took out his anger on the children.

In fact, if Arima's brutal workouts are what training in a Sunny Garden looks like, it could explain a lot.

(I mean, if Arima was indoctrinated that he was just a weapon of the CCG, then of course he would transfer this trauma to Kaneki as well)(Or is it easier for him to perceive Kaneki as a weapon, rather than as a son)

And the last thing to say is that Kaneki doesn't want to kill Arima. And that's what Arima doesn't understand. Because he has to want to. Because Arima betrayed his father, Kaneki must betray him and bring the matter to an end. But Arima doesn't kill his father himself. And to understand Kaneki means to immerse himself in his conflict with his father.

And although Arima avoids reflection, he still thinks about his father during the Kaneki fight.

His father is always behind his back, controlling his every action. Arima is angry at his father, Arima is afraid of him (his hands are shaking). Kaneki is angry at Arima, afraid of him. And he loves him.

Arima needs to admit that maybe he loves his father himself. And Kaneki loves him. Despite all the violence. But Arima was taught that it was impossible to love him, that he was to blame for the violence that was used against him. It's a painful rethinking of his whole life. That's why Arima hurts Kaneki over and over and over again.

Until he doesn't understand that the reason is himself.

(his hands are shaking again)

It is very difficult to say anything based on the plan to create an OEK, because nothing concrete is known about this plan. It is unknown at what point it was decided that Arima would die. And whether this decision was final or whether there was just a possibility that Arima would die. However, if the decision on Arima's death is made shortly before Eto asks to kill the OEK, then perhaps Arima, not seeing how he can get out of the internal conflict, and not knowing which to give preference to: his goal or the child, chooses to die because he cannot cope.

In fact, all 4 examples of excessive cruelty are interesting because not only the victims suffer, but also those who inflict violence.

At the same time, I should say that I do not justify Arima, Eto, Takizawa or Mutsuki, because despite their traumas and reasons, they made the choice to inflict violence

[your-dear-memmy]

Juuzou Suzuya & Control yap p. 1/2

(Tokyo Ghoul:re spoilers)

The way Juuzou sees parental figures is very much skewed given the abuse he suffered at the hands of Big Madam. So, once he associates Shinohara with a father figure (which is even further drilled into him by Mrs Shinohara telling him that Yukinori saw him as a son), even though Shinohara was kind to Juuzou in a way Big Madam wasn't, he approaches the situation the same way, giving him a seemingly morally correct yet violent goal to pursue. Juuzou recognizes Big Madam hurt him and loves her regardless, but even with that realization, he's still playing his puppet role.

Juuzou is still just a weapon.

While as a child he obeyed every order Big Madam gave him, as an adult he obeys every order he's given by the CCG higher ups BECAUSE he thinks that's what Shinohara, his supposed father figure, would want. He thinks that he's supposed to BECOME Shinohara just because Shinohara showed him kindness.

He can't make decisions for himself, because he's never been allowed to, so he doesn't know how. Once he was out of Big Madam's control, he was forced to re-live his trauma by killing again, just because killing ghouls is considered "morally acceptable".

Even though it may not seem like it at first glance, letting him channel his violence the same way he did when he used to be a scrapper, RETRAUMATIZES him.

So even though he gets better and develops empathy (In the Joker chapter of Tokyo Ghoul:re, he stops a girl from being groped on the train because he's been through it as well.) and care (for Shinohara and his own subordinates who seem to trust him a lot), at his core he's still the same traumatized Juuzou; That much is obvious in the way he approaches his rematch with Kurona, demonstrating that he's changed but not completely, because he's willing to kill his friend Sasaki without much thought just because he was told to, and in saying that he smiles the same smile he'd given Big Madam.

Juuzou associates parents with control, and that includes Shinohara, which breaks my heart! So once Shinohara wakes up they seriously need to talk so he can unlearn some of that😭

I haven't finished Tokyo Ghoul:re yet but I already know the ending is rushed and doesn't show anything like that.

I wish Juuzou's character arc included him learning to decide for himself rather than just going along with what everyone says. It's unlikely for him to fully ever recover from his trauma, but that would've been a massive step forward.

[I know I didn't say anything that hasn't been said before, but this is just a way for me to metabolize the chapter I just read, because it makes sense but it still upsets me greatly. As someone else put it, Juuzou's character arcs stagnates in :re. There's still 80 chapters or so for me to read and I kinda lost interest because I'm not liking this one eyed king kaneki making shitty decisions thing. The fact there's only like 4 Juuzou fics makes me wanna kms!!]

{I doubt anyone's gonna read this but if u did tysm and sorry for my english, My way of speaking makes more sense in italian!]

Part 2 has been posted!

[zobjilan77]

In Tokyo Ghoul

What descendance or well ethnic descendance headcanons do you have about the characters?

It's probably just from the blonde, but I've always thought the lady Mados have a Scottish ancestor.

Oh and with the whole RE in Maltese meaning King and the Washuus coming from the middle east. If I had to guess their ancestor would probaly be from what today is Tunisia, likely Arabic.

[polarysvelaryon]

Was Yoshimura already a kakuja when he got his wife pregnant? I was kind of wondering if kakuja was interfering with the likelihood of a one-eyed half-ghoul being born, considering the other known case is Touka, who was actually purposefully weakening herself during pregnancy. Or is it just inbreeding messing with the half-humans born into the Washuu clan.

I guess I could only theorize if Nishiki and Kimi had a baby.