#tros

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happy pride month this tweet is blatant misinformation

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Good thinking, Chewie. Finn, we can boulder these TIEs.

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got around to reading the actual synopsis for Rise of the Resistance ride, and was delighted to see that it actually substantiates a headcanon I've had forming, which is that at some point after gaining a fleet again after Star Wars: Allegiance, the Resistance once again takes heavy losses and is whittled down to practically nothing again by the time Rise of Skywalker rolls around:

In keeping with the setting of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge, Rise of the Resistance is set on a single, repeating day in the "in-universe" year 34 ABY (set between The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker).[17] Following the Battle of Crait, the last vestiges of the Resistance have retreated to the planet Batuu – once a thriving trader's port on the edge of Wild Space, long-since bypassed by hyperspace travel. There, the regrouping Resistance has set up a hastily-constructed makeshift base in the wilderness outside of Black Spire Outpost, repurposing ancient tunnels once home to an unseen civilization.[18] Defected Stormtrooper and Resistance loyalist Finn has infiltrated the Finalizer – the First Order Star Destroyer belonging to Kylo Ren – and has learned that Ren is aware of the Resistance's hideout on Batuu and plans to occupy the planet to ferret out the Resistance forces. With word of the encroaching threat shared back to the Batuuan Resistance faction, the Resistance has made the decision to evacuate the planet and meet on the mid-rim planet Pacara where General Leia Organa plans to regroup and stage a final stand against the First Order.

(from the Wikipedia page).

On the ride, when the Resistance fleet turns up above Batuu, it's pretty similar to the fleet that we see in The Last Jedi (probably because the CGI models already existed), but there's a Mon Calamari cruiser (Allegiance call-back), a Nebulon-B escort frigate, and a couple of StarFortress SF-17 heavy bombers.

However, the biggest ship the Resistance seems to have by the time they're on Ajan Kloss, that we see when they take off for the Battle of Exegol, is the Tantive IV. So either they took heavy losses on Batuu (I don't think so, given the triumphant nature of the ride), or that final stand mentioned that was planned on Pacara went south very quickly.

And I think the concept that the Resistance rebuilt, then got knocked back down hard, fits in well with the attitudes that we see in TROS: Poe is exhausted and beaten down, and it could even add a little more depth to Rey's concern over the Falcon.

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#most adorable flyboy in the galaxy award goes to...

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Finn rant

This is gonna be a long one and I still can’t cover everything.

Finn is probably the most original and unique character in the entire sequel trilogy and the way his character arc ( if they even wrote one for him) took place was a slight disgrace.

He was taken from his family at a very young age and trained to be a faceless and order-following no questions asked killer. FN-2187 was his call sign, so he had no name. One day he sees his friend killed on the battlefield and realizes the ruthlessness of the first order when he was asked to murder a bunch of innocent villagers. This mission changed his life trajectory and he decided that he would start a new life by doing a good deed: saving Poe.

No hate to Poe or Rey, but compared to them he had one hell of a backstory.

Let’s look at his relationships with other characters and how he was treated in the series. He found Poe, who gave him a name and a way out of the terror. Then he thought Poe died in the crash, which is a really big loss considering the above factors. He found Rey and BB8, who he decided to help reach the resistance. Keep in mind that he thought Poe was dead, so he could’ve just found another way out. Instead he wanted to fight for the cause. When he found friendship in Rey, he was ready to die fighting to protect her from Kylo.

I think in a way the original plan for the trilogy was for him to be the lover boy but that storyline fell off the train like Bucky Barnes. The man was kind, fair and just despite his upbringing.

We all know he was sidelined and John Boyega does too.

Finn is wasted potential. Back in the day people pointed out that large number of his lines was just him screaming REYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

One reason for the sidelining is probably racism( as said by Boyega himself. Despite being a very interesting character, he didn’t have a satisfying conclusion to his story. His relationship with Rose was thrown away (Rose deserves another rant), and that one plot point in tros where he met Jannah, who was also a stormtrooper that defected from the order, was never explored.

Speaking of wasted potential, there is a deleted scene in TLJ where he confronts and berates Plasma, saying something along the lines of “ When a blaster was pointed to your bucket of a head you screamed like a whoop dog”. Like this dialogue was cut but they kept the porgs and Luke drinking that disgusting milk from whatever that thing was.

I don’t think people would’ve minded if he was the main character instead of Rey (not 100% for a multitude of reasons) because he had a lot of depth and originality to his character, whereas Rey was a tragic desert Jedi like Luke and Anakin.

Note: I just checked on wookiepedia and it says he’s force sensitive?? Not only do you disrespect him by not including that in the movie but you bring it up in a random interview?????

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Hux Rant

Its been a while since I’ve seen tros so i might miss a few details.

Armitage Hux was main leader of the First order, not Kylo. Just like the big guy of the Death Star was Tarkin and not Vader. In TFA, Hux was a leader filled with hate and ambition. He wasn’t on the same wavelength as Kylo. In tros he lost his status since Kylo Ren became supreme leader, which lead Hux to leak information to the resistance.

The thing is, even though he hated Kylo with his whole being, it doesn’t make sense as to why he went against the first order, the very thing that gave him all that power. Sure he wasn’t as powerful as before, but working with the resistance brought his demise, as seen in the movie. No matter how anti Kylo Ren he was, TFA Hux would never turn away from the first order. I highly doubt that the resistance would welcome him with open arms.( Finn was genuinely a good guy who turned, and if you bring up Vader or Ben their excuse is “corrupted by the Dark side”). Hux has no excuse as to why he committed those atrocities( all the planets destroyed in TFA for example). So him being the “spy” merely for shock value is a another instance of terrible writing in tros.

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Rey Rant

The year is 2019/2020 and I just witnessed Rey kill Chewie with force lightning. For a full 30 minutes I absolutely hated Rey ( I was and still am a staunch Rey defender simply because men hate her, though I acknowledge that she is a very flawed character and a victim of terrible writing) .This simple act made Rey an unforgivable character in my eyes until it was revealed that Chewie was alive and I was relieved.

They should have kept him dead.

Don’t get me wrong, Chewie is everything to me and millions of fans, which is why him being killed by Rey’s hands was such a big deal and it wasn’t even her fault. The drama and tension it added to the movie would have been beautifully and horribly cinematic. By reviving him ( and making Hux the spy but that’s another discussion) they cheapened their entire story and threw away the consequence and curse of Rey being Palpatine’s descendent.

Dare I say this plot point and Finn’s character were the most original things to come out of the sequels.

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Rise and fall of a spy

This is a thought experiment how to slot Hux into TROS without changing anything about the script, just adding a couple of minutes. Each scene has two versions, one for the movie and an expanded one that only occurs in the novelisation.

Canon cutoff point

Movie: Finn forces Hux to come along because he is a bigger liability now than he could be useful going from here.

Novel: Finn tells him "You just yelled "I'm the spy" into the closest security camera, so what did you expect we'd do?!"

In the Falcon

Movie: Hux says "You people fly in this? You're braver than I thought", what predictably triggers Chewbacca into grabbing him by the throat. At first the General hisses back, but that's difficult to maintain when breath runs out.

Novel: Translated by Threepio, Chewie explains that he wants to honor the General having saved his life by speaking up against an eventual execution. Everything else, however, that might lead to his death, is on Hux alone. Poe comments that "So he'll be with us ten minutes tops, fine with me".

Novel: There is an additional scene in which Chewbacca takes Hux aside and asks him about Kylo/Ben, about whom he suffers conflicting feelings (even better if the Kylo tortures Chewie on the Steadfast scene stays in in the movie in this reality). Evasive at first, the General eventually shares a few anecdotes. It is difficult for him to percieve the Wookiee as a family member of Ben's instead of a pet.

Kef Bir

Movie: Jannah and the orbak riders are initially hostile after seeing Hux.

Novel: Hux wonders how they could recognize him. This doesn't look like a world that can receive First Order propaganda shows.

Repairing the Falcon

Movie: Finn, Hux and Jannah at work. Finn opens up to the General about something he is anxious to share with his friends: He misses small things about First Order life, like a favorite cafeteria food, but is afraid to bring it up even to Poe's ears, because that could get interpreted as missing the First Order. Hux realizes that if he never has to see the imperial fossils again, that'll still be too early. HIS First Order will be streamlined and efficient. Jannah replies "Yes, I get that", causing a puzzled look from Hux. The comment was actually meant for Finn and leads into Jannah sharing her past. While the two enthuse about their experience, Hux slinks away.

Novel: No change

The skimmer

Movie: Rey drafts Hux to assist him reaching the ruins.

Novel: Because it's a risky endeavour and he is the most expendable. Hux thinks about how he hates rain.

In the Death Star

Movie: While the duo explores the place, at one point Hux casually kicks a dead stormtrooper out of the way. He drones on about engineering improvements of Starkiller over the DS-2 battle station.

Novel: Rey says "You must have studied those ruins extensively, do you still know your way around?" To which Hux replies that he studied the plans, not the real thing. "Don't you ever just... live? In the real world?" Rey wonders, but doesn't get an answer. Hux also reveals his exact degree: Engineering Management.

Dark Side Vision

Movie: Hux urges Rey to just ignore the spectre, because it obviously isn't - cannot! - be real. The "obviously not real" spectre just slaps him aside and he spends the rest of the encounter unconscious. He also doesn't witness Kylo's death (the one thing he dearly wanted out of this arrangement).

Novel: no change

Return to Ajan Kloss

Movie: Hux is briefly seen in the background arguing about something with Rose.

Novel: While everyone knows he is a prisoner, the General staunchly percieves himself as a temporaty ally, to the point where he makes himself actually useful. The argument was really about some technical stuff and more productive than antagonistic.

Kijimi's Destruction

Movie: Hux calls it a "cheap shock effect" and claims the planet had no tactical value. The First Order only chose it for the demonstration because they knew the rebels had been there a short while ago. It's painfully obvious that he disagrees with the choice of a target, not with the act itself.

Novel: Finn snaps at Hux what about whether Hosnia was a "cheap shock effect", too. The General defends the decision to fire Starkiller. Between the Resistance and the Republic, the first was the bigger threat, so cutting them off their support was strategically sound. Unfortunately Kylo Ren's erratic decisons and borderline romantic affection for the scavenger, not to mention him letting the Resistance escape by dueling "a hologram of Skywalker" for a full ten minutes, undermined and voided everything the First Order had gained from the act. In the end it was therefore overpaid for too little gain. But with Kylo gone now, things will change.

Departing for Exegol

Movie: Hux is in the battle, no explanation.

Novel: Because they want to keep an eye on him.

Battle of Exegol

Movie: At one point both Hux and C-3PO blurt out the deplorable chances for a certain maneuver. Hux' estimate comes really close to Threepio's calculation and they are both offended at getting told to shut up.

Novel: Maybe two or three more such instances. I just think they'd harmonize really well.

The citizens' fleet

Movie: When the overwhelming force arrives, Hux realizes that he cannot put the galaxy under control again. It is over. He kills himself with either a small blade hidden in his sleave or a blaster that he takes from someone else.

Novel: Hux states briefly before the arrival that a victory at Exegol only takes out the auxiliary fleet and the "Sith menace", leaving the well fucntioning First Order intact. He intends to return and assume command.