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WoP US - one longterm user has had enough (part 1)

In mid May, a very long submission about WoP US landed in my inbox. It addresses multiple issues so in order to give each issue its own fair chance of discussion I've decided to split it into multiple posts.

P.US Anon says (part 1 - grading) I have had my homework stolen repetitively on P. US by multiple individuals. [/] Not to mention that the moment I made a new account and applied for the classes there were almost 200 things to grade. The grading is a problem, and it gets solved with "Grading Comps" that still leave stuff spilling over well into the new year. Users are discouraged from grading because there is too much and it is overwhelming. [/] I would rather not have my homework stolen so someone else can slightly modify it and get points, and I would rather be on a site where I feel welcome. [/] Only ONE AT does their job and ended up grading for all the other ATs in their subjects.

Stealing homework?! Sounds like the thieves are missing the whole point of the site, which is creative writing. There will always be users like that unfortunately, it's hard to avoid when the site is marketed as a Harry Potter RPG and people assume it's an interactive video game, completely missing the fact that it's about creative writing. On one hand, some of those users end up staying and falling in love with creative writing and that's a win for the site (and the world at large, if you ask me). On the other hand, it brings in a lot of users who don't see the fun in writing and acts disrespectfully, not out of malice but because they can't really relate to the people who write for fun. Except those who do act out of malice, maybe because they're disappointed that it's not the free video game they were expecting.

The grading sounds like a bad situation that is tricky to fix, but should definitely be looked at. It's probably time to look outside the box and think of other solutions than just competitions and encouragement. I don't know how WoP US has set up their ATs but maybe some teambuilding and encouragement within the AT team could help increase their activity a bit.

First step is probably to figure out why users are doing homework but not grading. Part of it is explained by grading being locked to level 3, but there might be other factors as well.

What puts people off from grading and how to we encourage users to grade more? I think this question will need more brains than just one, so please share your thoughts.

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WoP US - one longterm user has had enough (part 2)

P.US Anon says (part 2 - AI in topics) We also have an AI problem where they allow AI in topics but not in homework, and so there are people who put effort into homework and then there are people who spam topics with 1000 words to get 7 points per reply. This is also not okay in my opinion because it literally breaks TOS when it involves handing writing over to another site without one's consent. I have stopped RPing entirely in topics because my replies are being fed to bots to generate a reply to my own response so that another person can get points for my effort. If I wanted to talk to a bot, then I would use CA.I where I can at least consent to having my writing being taken and used to train bots, and yet that is what happens when you input a prompt to AI, it also trains at the same time. I would rather have my writing not stolen and used so that another user can profit from my writing.

I was under the impression that generative AI was entirely banned from all parts of all WoX sites, but maybe that's just me preferring to think of WoX as a community that values and encourages human creativity and skill, and firmly stands against the evil of generative AI. If that's not the case, I'll be very disappointed.

It's easy to make rules against using genAI, but those rules are not easy to enforce. And some of those 1k+ words topic posts might very well be written by users who wouldn't touch gen AI with a 12ft long stick. It's impossible to tell for certain if a digital text is written by AI or not - even AI itself can't tell the difference, it can only recognise certain indicators and indicators are not evidence. And AI keeps learning too, it's probably learning to avoid the indicators to make the result look less AI.

Rules are pretty useless if they can't be enforced, and we don't want to punish the wrong people by accident. Besides, threats don't do much either to people who don't care. And people who use genAI often don't care about the ethics, or they probably wouldn't be using genAI for creative writing in the first place.

Maybe what we need is positive reinforcement and encouragement? Encouraging users to use their own words, and rewarding them for it with good feedback and support. Oftentimes the carrot is more effective than the stick.

I really wish for genAI users to know and understand that there is real joy and satisfaction in putting together a sentence that flows perfectly, a paragraph that makes you feel something, descriptions that help you picture a scene as if you're actually there. It can be frustrating when you don't get it right, and it takes practise and effort, but that's what makes it feel so good when you get it right. You don't get that joy and satisfaction by watching a bot do it for you. You might get a similar result, but you'll never feel the pride of sharing something that you made with your own skill.

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Am I being unfair to genAI users? Maybe I am. I am half expecting a long lecture defending genAI in the comments... presumably written using genAI. Yes, I am prejudiced, and with that said there's no need to use genAI to tell me what I just concluded myself so please don't waste limited natural resources on telling me what I already know.

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Evonne's First Day in Herbology

Evonne, always a lover of plants, personalized her plant pot with a coiling snake and one of her favorite plants: the Devil's Snare. She was pleased with the look, believing that she was manifesting owning one in the future. Perhaps she wouldn't steal the one by the door of Greenhouse One... yet....