Yttd 3b logic spoilers below cut, also kinda rant-ish.
You guys either put the blame on Sara or Ranmaru way too much for the death of Reko/Alice when you guys should actually be blaming asunaru.
Sara would've never snapped if it weren't for the death game and all she's been through while Ranmaru had constantly had the fact that he's just a useless doll shoved in his face by Asunaru. Ranmaru seems to care alot if he's useful to Sara or not (hence why in before the banquet during emotion route he asks Sara is he was useful or not).
Ranmaru and Sara probably would have never murdered someone if it weren't for the death game, so it's not appropriate to put full responsibility on either one of them.
Also I see alot of people blame Sare solely for Ranmaru snapping when Ranmaru will always ask Sara to win together no matter what route you're on. Sara in logic route does manipulate him but then panics and tells him to forget about all what she said straight after. It legit depends on if Sara rejects him fast enough😭
Ranmaru is also focused on winning after and dosent listen to Sara after she tells him to stop.
If you're not gonna blame Asunaru then Ranmaru and Sara are both responsible and not just one of them. Sara for inciting Ranmaru, while Ranmaru for actually carrying out the murder and refusing to listen to Sara after.
Anyhow tldr: both of them are victims of circumstance and Asunaru is to blame. But if you wanna blame them then their equal in responsibility for the murder of yabusame
Okay rant over, I just wrote this cause I saw a bunch of comments babying Ranmaru and villifying Sara and it just pissed me off lol
The blue and red person symbol that keeps appearing in YTTD and its meaning, an analysis + theory
So at the very start of the game you get to choose who you support, mr. Blue or mrs. Red. One of them dies if you support the other. COINCIDENTALLY, i think that the two person symbol and color keeps appearing in the game. This is just my interpretation. My english is not that good, sorry. Spoilers up to 3B.
As i mentioned in my previous posts, i noticed there are so many foreshadowing and hints dropped by nankidai, even in YTTS and his day to day sketch. I'll use that as my basis here.
The blue (sometimes teal) is a man and the red is a female. In manga, they make it more obvious by putting a king crown and a ribbon on the symbol on the sacrifice card option.
To start off, blue and red keep appearing in the game. My interpreation is the blue man is the previous survivor and the red is a woman that looks like sara in hades incident. My bet is, the man who wanted the girl to win used sacrifice card (either possesed by him or her) to win the final round and them both is the last two survivors. However, one of them must become a doll and unfortunately the girl dies by becoming a doll. How did i reach to this conclusion?
In 1f, there are two rooms with door colored red and blue. If you notice, this color pattern keeps appearing til chapter 3.
In blue room, you see the painting of meister and 9 chairs. This room possibly tells a lot about him, the previous male survivor, but i didnt think much about it right now. He probably likes russian roulette or being familiar with it. While in red room, it tells about the girl that looks like sara.
- BLUE ROOM -
Russian Roulette happens here. Blue (but teal color is used instead) and red bullet is used. If you shoot the blue bullet, the person lives and if you use red bullet, the person dies. Sounds similar with the man and the woman in memorandum ? I still didn't think what those 6:3 for blue:red means, maybe how the previous survivors got to live by scoring 3 more points more than the woman in something after they got to be the victor using sacrifice card? It can be similar with the event where you choose whose opinion you support at the start of the game . Its 2 vs 1 , 2:1 and by multiplying with 3 you got 6:3 .
Another things is, about the 4 humans and 5 dolls sitting on the chair. If we didnt count the extra participant that pass the first trial ( nao, joe and kai ) it made up to number 9, same with the number of chairs. I still didnt think that deep yet but maybe 4 humans means there will be 4 survivors at the end of this game (if this game didnt go 2 person using sacrifice route). But the 2 dolls that has been shot by blue bullet still gives me question. It can possibly mean one is hayasaka/kurumada/mai but the other one? If i'm not mistaken we didnt see what is the color of gin's lamp in the banquet? But still midori and meister really believe that gin's lamp color is blue, so maybe gin is blue after all? Unless they too didnt know that gin is possibly a doll, maybe he get switched?
Or the other doll been shot with blue bullet may mean it is midori's another doll that keiji secretly switch it on when he's missing in 3b ( if he's appearing again as midori 2.0 then we got f*ked up unless he got programmed another way ). Keiji appeared, but the midori's head is not with him.
or it's Joe's doll that we only seen for seconds in chapter 2. I speculate that we will see his doll again somehow in the end (the story build up onto that). But hey, there is one sketch about final part hints that has joe in it, isnt it?
OR if thats not it,
4 chairs on the upside of the room can represent Sou Route, and 5 chairs on the down side represents kanna route by the number of survivors at the end of 3B.
Keiji, Qtaro and Kai is on the up side, and only Joe is on the down side. Considering kanna route, Joe got more highlight too compared to Sou route. Idk if the stairs is relevant to be deciphered or not.
Ok because what i'm gonna say after this is gotten real ABSURD and ONLY A MERE SPECULATION but also can become a food for the different routers SJW to fight brainlessly i'll just not talk about it. I hate that part of yttd fandom. Good luck. Move on to the next.
- RED ROOM -
/ not everything is in the pic, eg. the bear doll, the opened tile /
Most of the things in red room is incomprehensible to me yet for the lack of hints from the game but there are things that i kinda get.
1. The clock
In the digital clock , it shows 28.75 and player has to convert it to 5.15 on the traditional clock to get going. If you switch the h:m , it becomes 15.5 , the percentage of sara's victory in ai test.
Before this i tried to interpret it as birthday but its not quite right. I get 15 May but Sara's birthday is on 18 May. Then i thought maybe it is the girl in memo's birthday or the day they all got kidnapped. But since the % paper is found in the red room i guess 5.15 on the clock is actually 15.5 % . Maybe the girl in memo had the same % as sara so thats why the 2nd death game can happens because they are similar? The man she see in the red room is possibly meister or the previous survivor.
2. The bear doll
That doll suddenly has blood poured out from its neck. If you look at the picture from the memorandum, it kinda looks similar, atleast the blood part?
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This doll was not visible when you first entered the room, after the lights out it suddenly appears. This doll is the reason why i think the girl in memo dies by becoming a doll, as the red room implies about her.
If this theory is not right, then maybe that memo girl and sara is actually a special doll that got filled with artificial blood. But thats not a strong theory.
However, the only possible reason my first theory can makes sense is that the final victim conference will only end until only one survivors live, which still can make that the girl in memorandum still dies in third victim conference. Will elaborate more on the period length of 3rd victim conference after this.
There are many things i cant interpret yet in the red room:
- Candle that need to be light up, just on the window : i dont know if this is even correct or not, but at first it was dim, then it lit up. Candle as i google translate means rousoku in japanese. If you switch the intonation it can sounds like korosu, which means "to kill". Is this symbolize that the will to kill others lit up in her at last, or is that the other survivors suddenly want to kill her at last? Or its just she is the light or the center attention of the game. Idk if its even close lol.
- The two light source and cracks on the ceiling : ok so this part i'm not really sure, but the two light source can either mean joe and ryoko or joe and keiji. It is possible that the memorandum girl also has the same circumstance as sara (best friend and a man that his views alligned with her since this room is about the memorandum girl). but i will make it easier to type by referring to the case of sara. that light source symbolize her light for which keiji and ryoko can be that role in her life too other than joe. the crack near the left light source possibly relates to joe, the cracks continue to the cabinet that has the clock, may means that joe is the reason her % gets reduced or that she is heartbroken when joe is dead.
- The red water under one of the tiles : it comes from the crack, but idk if it will symbolize anything or just used for convenience (not to scare players etc). Saying that sara is getting more dark thoughts or being haunted by hallucinations after joe is dead is safer than to say joe or sara is a doll that has fake blood, maybe. It kinda makes more sense with hallucinations since at first sara thought it was blood, but its just a red water (something she only imagined as blood).
- The other boxes
- the secret passage/locker
- the dark windows
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That Symbol in Chapter 3
We see the holding hand symbol in discussion room on 4f. The man is blue and woman is red too. A human and a doll must hold hands to open the door.
My interpretation:
The discussion room symbolize where the two survivors will go only if they wins by using sacrifice card or by killing others. The part where only 1 pair can go in the room strengthen this, meaning no more than 2 person can unlock this "route". Idk if maple mentions this in the official release of game or it was from scrapped content, but she did said if there are only 2 survivors, they got to live together for some time and discuss who will be the doll. Its the same of the name discussion room. Furthermore, we found "RED" book from this room which can mean sacrifice and the girl in memorandum itself.
Either way, the existence of 1 obstructor in the discussion room maybe mean that who lives in the end depends on whose opinion the obstructor support? Maple also only kills those who are not human. At the very start of the game we have to choose to support whose opinion too. Plausible.
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Relation with Red Book and Blue Book
There are 4 books in total, red, blue, green and yellow.
Idk about yellow and green, it can relates with keiji and midori tho.
- Yellow book: Physical Exam Information of participants ( Keiji has access to civilain information when he is a police at some point, maybe. Or keiji is really good at analyzing other people behaviour as in chapter 2 ). But can also be hayasaka's.
- Green book: How to Beat Maple ( The way the book is written annoyingly is like Midori's, and he really used these tricks to be safe )
For some reason, the memorandum man and girl resembles sou and sara a lot.
- Blue book : Shin Tsukimi AI Test Data
- Red book : (the title is not mentioned)
The fact that Sou got spoiled a lot by his parents, has sibling but they live in the orphanage, having midori getting close only to him for years to collect the data for the book compared to other participants, must mean that Sou is somehow special to the game itself. In addition, Meister who wears the same suit as they grey haired man has a moon symbol placed behind him in the banquet that can possibly mean "Tsukimi".
Sou once said he overheard that he actually got sibling, but he said he "get out of the house because he overheard something he shouldnt heard". Knowing himself having a sibling is not a strong enough reason for him to get out of the house, so i guess he heard more than that.
On the other hand, Sara's non-biological father took a very good care of her too until a certain date. Alice's parent felt unhappy for not getting a female as their first children, and treat him like a girl, while reko is treated as boy. Alice is also first found in the red room too. Is this a coincidence? Is it that if the Yabusame's first children is female, then sara's position in the game will be taken by her? I can only assume that chidouin and yabusame family has some rivalry history, which dont even have any evidence to support that.
Back to the blue book, Sou is really gonna be the blue man. The condition when the book was found is wet and in a closed space that are hard to reach. I can only think of it as he is a loner who are hard to approach, rarely go out, and he is a gloomy person ( the word gloomy is mostly used by shin himself in chapter 2 in his dream, and sometimes gin describe his smell is like that ).
There must be a reason why only the title of the red book is not mentioned yet. But i bet its about the memorandum girl, the sacrifice, the creation of the doll-AI, the game or sara herself. Since it alligns with the red woman symbol from the start.
3 Coffin Lamp Color and It's Meaning
Blue - Human (Memorandum man alive)
Red - Doll (Memorandum girl dies, and i theorized that she'd became a doll )
Yellow - Vacant (Not sure if this has another meaning, but kinda Keiji-ish)
Thats it. Just curious why the game put so much time into foreshadowing the sacrifice route.
update : so I think I understand now why in the art book cover sara's color is red-ish and not purple and why Sou color is not green-ish (a bit different than kanna's) but blue-ish instead.
ofc qtaro and nao is almost similar but thats not really important now after 3b
isn’t fun how the part of Shin’s wish scene where he says that he wants to “become the person [he] wants to be” clearly references him wanting to be more like Sou? Isn’t it ironic how his less noticeable secondary wish also came true in the most fucked up way possible? That consent form is such a monkey’s paw I swear.
So after watched ytts ending there this thing that can ultimately restore everyone's memory, the first being Rei. In 3b, those thing that can restore memory is the lantern. So i got curious and i searched then i found this...
Red light therapy could benefit AD patients looking for better treatment options, especially natural ones with no drugs, chemicals, or side
Susumu Tonegawa from MIT and his colleagues studied three different types of mice that were all failing long term memory tests. This image s
So wtf man its actually the real stuff? Asunaro also researching humans so i think.. they are lab rats for memory research or something?? Haha thats kinda accurate bruh.. and its japanese who made this research... And the background is also scientist like... Hmmm too similar
