I have a Teen Wolf question.
For some reason I have it in my head that I first heard the song, Medicine by Daughter on Teen Wolf. But I haven’t been able to find it on any if the episode soundtracks. Guys, I need to know.

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@theoneforpllthings
I have a Teen Wolf question.
For some reason I have it in my head that I first heard the song, Medicine by Daughter on Teen Wolf. But I haven’t been able to find it on any if the episode soundtracks. Guys, I need to know.
I honestly think I subconsciously removed PLL from my memory since the finale 😂 Like it was so tragically bad that I just don't even think about the last 7 seasons that I invested myself in. It's like it never even happened 🤣🤣
PLL? Who’s she?
Oh my god. I just realised PLL has taken a storyline from Jane The Virgin season 2 (the most satirical show I’ve ever seen) and tried making it serious. The evil twin trying to take over the others life, the realistic masks… I can’t.
I literally just started season 2 of Jane the Virgin. I'm like 10 episodes in right now.
Oh gosh. This show has been spoiled so much for me due to my younger sister looking up stuff about the show.
And this was just the icing on the cake.
But it's all good. I can sleep at night knowing that Jane the Virgin has a way better plot than PLL ever did.
*peace out*
Spencer's reaction to Alex
The only thing that confuses me about the finale is that you’re telling me that after finding out you’ve got an identical twin sister you don’t even want to properly get to know her, not even in the slightest? As soon as she’s shipped off to prison you’re off to your friends’ wedding acting completely fine with no further mention of her?? When Ali found out about CeCe she was sympathetic, she visited her and gave her the support she needed but Spencer just completely forgets about Alex?? What’s up with that? No matter how crazy she is you’d still want to get to know your family no? Makes no sense to me🤔
The problem with the finale
Lest anyone think I’m just bitching for fun… or because of some vanity over my theories not being correct.
1. The twin storyline is already weak and overdone. BUT it could have been ok if it was better executed.
2. Toby is a victim of rape! Again! Twice by Alex and a few times by Jenna!
3. Nothing tied back to previous seasons.
4. There are still SOOOO many unanswered questions!!! What the fuck?!!
5. They didn’t close up ANY plot holes at alllll
6. Are we to just assume that Alex kidnapped Hanna?
7. If Mona killed Charlotte why is Mona still alive???
8. Ezra Fitz is one of the worst humans on television and he got a happy ending.
9. Byron actually blessed his daughters marriage to her abuser!!! I threw up in my mouth.
10. Lol so Sara Harvey is just red coat/black veil.
11. No one died and I crave not just death but violence to soothe my years long suffering.
12. I can no longer pretend that the Charlotte reveal isn’t canon and a part of me died with that hope.
13. Motive was bullshit times a thousand. Children could write better.
14. I actually hurt from my wasted energy. I literally feel like a part of me has died, and that’s the part that will ever invest in something I can’t control again.
Number 12 tho. I so wished the Charlotte reveal wasn't true.
Me @ Marlene in previous interviews though…
Guys, the FUCKING vodka soda. Wren was suppose to be A.D. (with Melissa's help) from the start. They just fucked up with scheduling so they couldn't get him and her to play their parts respectively. Wren could of been Charles. Ezra could of been Charles or at least involved. Ya know what, we still don't really know how Bethany Young ties into all of this. This is what infuriates me. The ending could have been something they planned from the start. But they fell through. Instead they gave us Wren fucking Kingston in a fucking necklace.
I was watching a Clever News video where Troian was talking about the PLL Finale and the original ending. This is what Marlene said about the ending.
Uuuuugh, IM STILL NOT OVER THE FACT THAT WE COULD OF HAD WREN AS A.D.
He could of been A.D.
We could of had a story that covered everything from the beginning. But nope.
*deep breaths*
I was looking at the wikia page for the PLL Finale and I found this.
Now, I know that these can be edited but who thought that it was Wren who visited Mona. We never got an answer as to who exactly went to see Mona. I just assumed that it was Alex Drake.
Thank you! I completely forgot this. Hehehe. 😅😅
I was looking at the wikia page for the PLL Finale and I found this.
Now, I know that these can be edited but who thought that it was Wren who visited Mona. We never got an answer as to who exactly went to see Mona. I just assumed that it was Alex Drake.
So, we were led to believe for *years* that the girls were being punished for something that happened that night. YEARS.
No, we were never “lead” to believe this. It was just a theory. A really popular theory, which never ended up coming true.
Yes, we were.
“You know me, Spencer. You killed me.” For the A message with the dirt in Spencer’s bed.
The blood on Spencer’s clothing in the Dollhouse.
Flashbacks of both Emily and Spencer hitting “Ali”.
Melissa’s confession to burying who she thought was Ali because she was trying to protect Spencer.
Bethany being dressed as Ali that night, including a bracelet. The letters between Ali and Bethany. We know who hit Ali though how did Bethany end up in the ground? Was that all Mona?
Why have Sara Harvey dressed in the “That Night” get up in the Dollhouse? Why have Mona dressed up that way in the Dollhouse?
Flashbacks of that night- why put so much emphasis on the Liars being drugged?
Dream and hallucination Ali telling different girls that they all know more about that night than the realize?
I would have to go back over the A messages, though am pretty sure there were more alluding to them doing something wrong that night.
I get that AD is different than A, and that this was supposed to be a totally separate storyline. I am just not happy with it at all, because they could have woven together a flowing story from start to finish. Those Patsy Cline songs were supposed to be so important and such a huge clue, and she addressed them by Charlotte giving an album to Alex saying they were important to her?
It is what it is. In my opinion, it could have been so much stronger. At the very least, I think the fans would have enjoyed this much more if Marlene hadn’t over promised, over shared, over anagramed, etc.
This ^^ is something I wish the writers gave better closure on. There were so many opportunities to make sense of these threats through the final reveal. For example, the vial of blood that wound up in Spencer’s bag when she was in London during an episode of 5B could have also been linked back to Alex, had the writers only spent a little time trying to make this reveal a little more impactful.
The liars are irrelevant characters in a show that is actually supposed to be about them. They don’t tie into the plot or the mystery. The show became CeCe’s. She stole the game and the story, just like she said to Mona. The entire mystery is about a character that’s been in 11 or 12 episodes and that the majority of the fandom did not care about. The girl in the grave is meaningless. That night is meaningless as the main characters are detached from this entire plot–the entire mystery. They were reduced to secondary characters whose main existence was reduced to their love lives. In the end they were not even allowed to solve the mystery. This is awful storytelling.
The show used to be all about the girl in the grave and the liars involvement in the events of this night. And this was taken away from them and us.
“The four of you combined, you remember more about that night than you think you do.” They literally knew nothing because they were asleep.
All this could have been fixed if CeCe had lied and Alex had been woven into the story from the start. We were promised an Uber A. Uber means above all… above all the other A’s. AD, Alex, should have been the one who has always been there… but her character, just like the liars, was overshadowed by CeCe. Alex only exists because of CeCe.
The CeCe reveal destroyed this entire show and it never recovered from it. Marlene loved her CeCe reveal and she didn’t want to “undo” it.
AD doesn’t deserve the title of “Uber A.” There is no Uber A. That was Marlene’s biggest lie.
We were lied to. We were dragged along. We were promised that the lady in black and Uber A are pll endgame. The lady in black was Sara Harvey–who used to be a stock photo. And we still don’t even know 80% of her story and we never will. And they told us that Uber A and AD are the same person. Well, Uber A didn’t arrive until 10 episodes ago… just like with Sara, we will never really get to know Alex. None of these reveals made sense, nor do they explain why these girls needed to be tortured.
We were dragged along for nothing just like the liars were tortured for nothing.
We were lied to.
“The CeCe reveal destroyed this entire show and it never recovered from it. Marlene loved her CeCe reveal and she didn’t want to “undo” it.”
Yes, thank you!! That right there is what it really is.
One of the things that got me thinking someone had a twin (and that someone was Spencer) was the episode with a Wilden’s funeral, where we see Black a Widow. If memory serves, as we see her, the Digital Daggers song, “The Devil Within”, starts to play, and would have been perfect to play again as Alex explained how she was there for years:
I will keep quiet You won’t even know I’m here You won’t suspect a thing You won’t see me in the mirror But I crept into your heart You can’t make me disappear Til I make you
I made myself at home In the cobwebs and the lies I’m learning all your tricks I can hurt you from inside I made myself a promise You would never see me cry Til I make you
You’ll never know what hit you Won’t see me closing in I’m gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I’m underneath your skin The devil within You’ll never know what hit you
I will be here When you think you’re all alone Seeping through the cracks I’m the poison in your bones My love is your disease I won’t let it set you free Til I break you
You’ll never know what hit you Won’t see me closing in I’m gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I’m underneath your skin The devil within You’ll never know what hit you
I tried to be the lover to your nightmare Look what you made of me Now I’m a heavy burden that you can’t bear Look what you made of me Look what you made of me I’ll make you see
You’ll never know what hit you Won’t see me closing in I’m gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I’m underneath your skin The devil within You’ll never know what hit you
The devil within You’ll never know what hit you
This is what I was hoping would have happened in the finale, but sadly it didn't. It could have been an overarching storyline connecting all of the major dots. It could of been brilliant.
Ashley is just the greatest. Even last night, we were watching it together – and she was at the table read, and she filmed this episode with me – but she was always leaning over and goes, “Is that you or your twin?” And by “you,” she meant Spencer. It was so funny because she just kept saying, “Is that you or your twin?” And I was like, “That’s the twin,” and she’d go, “Oh my God! So creepy!” And then she’d be like, “Is that you or your twin?” And I’d be like, “No, that one is me – that’s Spencer,” and she’d go, “Oh God! OK!” But it was just so much fun to watch the episode with the cast and to dress up. I got to bring my mom [to the screening] and in the first moment that the twin was revealed, it was so funny. She turned around at me and she gasps and goes, “You bitch!” and Marlene basically fell off her chair laughing. It was so funny! And I was like, “But, Mom! I’m also the person being held captive!”
Troian Bellisario (via fuckyeslittleliars)
God I feel so bad for Troian can people stop giving her shade for the accent? I mean just because people were upset with the storyline that's no reason to take it out on Troian!! Or any of the actors. They all gave their 100%. I feel so bad for them, I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to read all those comments. I would definitely start crying if I were them. People have become so insensitive hiding behind a computer screen
Yes that’s why I don’t name the actors. I hated the reveal but that was Marlene’s call, not Troian’s! She did an amazing job by playing Alex, while watching the episode live I literally told my dad “Troian is way too good acting” and he agreed.
The characters and the actors who played them were cheated.
I’m actually mad that we got so little of Alex and her story. Alex’s character deserved better than to be crammed into the last, like, 20 minutes of the finale, while they focused on the ships for the first hour of the show.
Lucas deserved WAY better than the send-off his character got.
Mona deserved better than to return to the girls after she legit KILLED someone to protect them for them to not trust her.
Spencer deserved better than having only a horse and her arch nemesis notice she was switched out with an evil twin.
Wren deserved better than being killed off screen for no reason whatsoever?
I don’t even know Bethany Young, and I still think she deserved an actual reason to be part of the plot.
Mike deserved to… Exist, or at least be mentioned… Or invited to his sister’s wedding… Wtf happened to Mike???
I 100% agree with you! I really don’t know what happened to Mike
As soon as I heard that English “boo”, I immediately thought Alex grew up in London around Wren, and they had a relationship that drove him to Rosewood to find her family for her, hence him finding Melissa and dating her to get close to the family. That would also explain his intense attraction to Spencer. I just wanted this to go back to the start.
I wanted this too. 😢😢
Ok, who did this? 😂😂😂
Ahahah oh my gooood
Not sure if I should laugh or cry about this.
Jenna recognized A.D’s perfume
When AD took her and gave her the endgame rules, she smelled her, she smell a perfume. A perfume that saved Spencer.
She thought she was talking to Spencer but smelled the same perfume A.D wears and that’s how Jenna figured out who A.D was and saved everyone.
So wait, let me get this straight:
Following the most predictable pll episode EVER, we find that a) Spencer’s twin is terrible and evil, b) Toby has been raped yet again, c) all of the spoby scene THE ENTIRE SEASON are basically irrelevant.
Was I supposed to enjoy this?
Honey, you have no idea.