ah, finally. a teen wolf blog with some common fucking sense (there's like 3 that are also agressively anti-sterek and there's not enough of us :// )
imma be real. i’m shocked the teen wolf fandom still exists.
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@anti--sterek
ah, finally. a teen wolf blog with some common fucking sense (there's like 3 that are also agressively anti-sterek and there's not enough of us :// )
imma be real. i’m shocked the teen wolf fandom still exists.
I know this blog hasn't been updated for a while, but I'm just here to say. Sterek is one of (if not the most) the worst ships in the entire world. Derek is not only older, but genuinely does not give a shit about Stiles.
ya aint wrong buddy!
You ship stiles and Erica but she literally knocked him out once but, Derek is abusive for slamming his head on a steering wheel once 💀 and stiles always put Allison before stiles but alright sis 💀
OHHHH MY GOD. is this real?? this blog hasn’t been updated in two years, i havent watched teen wolf in three. how did you even find this? easrftdgyhsyr
omg you are so fucking stupid 😂😂 "stereks an abusive ship" 'canon derek s1 and s2 is so abusive" omfg you have no idea 😂😂 ahaha fuck you
yes anon, you’re absolutely right, physical violence and threats are a healthy way to show affection.
People like you are the reason this fandom doesn't get along, please try to stop spreading hate, what did the sterek fandom ever do to you?
i dropped teen wolf and havent updated this blog in months but these kind of messages are still my faves <3
also i’m pretty sure sterek fans telling posey to kill himself are why this fandom doesn’t get along
I've never understood how people shipped Sterek since season 1 and 2 where Derek was a canon abuser. Like why would people want Stile with a known abusive character. How does one even justify that?
because white boys touching dicks >>>> healthy secure relationships of course!!
#this is why i love posey more than anything in the world #the difference between dylan and hoechlin and posey is that hobrien gets very shut down and uncomfortable when anything sterek-related gets thrown into their faces #the fandom let both of them get away with their homophobic comments #hobrien always rushes to defend their characters’ heterosexuality and here’s posey to whom the idea of scott being not-straight is not an issue at all #he’s never said anything like ‘scott only likes girls’ unlike dylan and hoechlin #like i totally understand hobrien’s discomfort because sterek shippers are entitled and aggressive and inappropriate most of the time but posey NEVER gets offended or uncomfortable by these kind of things #he embraces it #the fandom needs to stop throwing posey under the bus and start paying more attention to how he actually handles these type of comments and questions from fans #but i mean let’s face it the only reason why the fandom is so anti-posey is because they can’t stand it when their two favorite white guys laugh at their crackship and the brown guy is totally here for scott to have same-sex relationships
I'm a Sterek shipper but I totally respect your opinion. Everyone's entitled to one, at least I think so(some people in the teen wolf fandom are nuts). But I do have to admit, the way Jeff Davis decided to make stiles leave suggestive hints towards being homosexual was pretty mean. He just kind of lead the viewers on and then slapped us in the face which was somewhat rude. I want to know your opinion about this! Do you think it was right for him to do this? Thanks for your time!!!😊
I've talked about this before, but yeah it's something I feel pretty strongly about so I'll talk more about it.
Jeff Davis queerbaits like nobody's business. And like, there's absolutely no reason to. I don't understand why he won't just have Stiles come out and say that he's bisexual, or talk as casually about having a crush on a guy as he does having crushes on girls. When fucking Caitlin asked Stiles do you like guys, that was the perfect time for Stiles to casually say YES, I like girls and I like guys. Instead, we got nothing. Not a no, not a yes, nothing. Which is bullshit. He claims he's so progressive by having a poc lead actor, and queer side characters, but he won't just come out and confirm Stiles as bisexual.
He uses queerbaiting to draw in queer fans and fans that ship queer ships, he talks about Sterek and has the cast talk about it, but he's never going to do anything about it. It's gross and I implore fans to not let this slide. Be loud (but not threatening!). Demand on screen confirmation that Stiles is bisexual. This isn't about Sterek. It's about representation and being treated with respect.
How do you ship stiles with??
Who do I ship Stiles with? Erica/Stiles is my personal favorite, but I also love Stiles with Scott and Cora. But I'm pretty okay with anything that's not sterek.
derek: i'm looking for scott
derek: where is scott
derek: i need scott
derek: scott can help
derek: [protects scott]
derek: scott cares about people
derek: can anyone tell me where scott is
derek: [follows scott around]
derek: scott would find a way
derek: scott can protect this town
derek: scott is our solution
derek: scott scott scott
derek: scott
fandom: DEREK IS ONLY HERE FOR STILES DEREK CARES SO MUCH ABOUT STILES DEREK IS NOT INTERESTED IN ANYONE FOR STILES DEREK LOVES STILES
god bless you for creating this blog I honestly thought i was the only person who hated sterek and it's shitty abusive dynamic and how it's shippers treat all the other characters/actors before I found this bc sterek is literally EVERYWHERE
Naaah, you're not the only one, but we are the minority in the fandom. :C
lmao shippers are more than you anti's soon you'll be BAAAM crushed
okay? lmao there have always been more abuse apologists in big fandoms, especially when it comes to m/m ships. and i really hope they grow from that because the relationships stiles and derek have isn't to be romanticized. the violent outbursts, the demeaning comments, and the power difference that comes from such a large age gap aren't cute, sorry to tell you.
so you actually have followers :/
yeah?? lmao not everyone likes abusive dynamics.
I love your tags on that post about hateships and abuse culture, I've been thinking about that a lot and yeah I can't get with unhealthy aggressive ships anymore especially since they're almost all m/m, it's too gross...
sorry it took me a billion years to reply, I wanted to write a long, articulate reply but have only been online on my phone lately, so. yeah, it’s been on my mind a lot, and it’s so shocking I never saw it before. if you think about these v popular ships, almost all of them are white cis m/m ships w/loads of aggression linked to them. and not only linked, but people ship them BECAUSE of the aggression.
two white cis dudes are aggressive towards each other. it’s romanticized and seen as “sexual tension”. the other one is set up as the more dominant, masculine in the relationship while the other one is feminized and made submissive (some fandoms do disagree which is which, but versatility is quite rare). the women and moc close to the white dudes are erased and vilified, often so fans can set up the feminized guy, ~abandoned by all his friends, to be saved by the dominant guy. amazing.
even ships that don’t have the “ooh, sexual tension” starting point are aggressive, often manipulative or even abusive (eg bbc johnlock). at the top of my head, I can’t really think of one popular m/m ship with a healthy, warm, loving relationship. if you think about teen wolf, what would seem like the most obvious pairing choice? the two best friends who spend most of their time together, support and help each other, and have touching scenes together? or the 25yo man and 16yo boy, who have mostly hated each other throughout the show?
skittles would seem like the obvious choice. but what most people (myself included, sadly) were drawn to was sterek. not only because they’re both white attractive guys, but I think the aggression and anger in their “relationship” plays a big part in it. we have been taught to see aggression as sexual, taught through movies and tv shows how a man interested in a woman approaches her, and sadly, that that has been carried into fanfiction and fandom through internalization (bc don’t for a moment think this all isn’t about misogyny, bc it is. it might be two dudes, but the other is always coded as the woman in the relationship, and thus, treated like a woman).
the relationship between scott and stiles didn’t spark that “oooh” reaction in me because they were literally too friendly and nice to each other. for a long time the only ships that sparked interest in me in teen wolf were the ones that had clear aggression and friction between the two characters. that’s how internalized abuse culture is in fandom. and now that the fourth wall between fandom and shows is quickly eroding, tv and movie producers are using this for their benefit.
the most obvious example of this would be reboot star trek’s kirk/spock. they very consciously took a ship they were aware of, wrote the typical “two white dudes hate each other ooh tension” plot, and kinda assumed everyone would just gobble it up. and most people did (it doesn’t mean you’re unintelligent or a fool, it really takes a lot of observation to see these things). especially when it comes to the second movie, it’s clear they completely discarded any and all character development to write in a great no homo plotline for kirk and spock, and make money off fans hungry for queer representation.
this is why it pisses me off to no end when sterek fans deny sterek is abusive, when they say their violent, aggressive interaction is “funny”, use scenes where derek physically hurts stiles as proof of “sterek moments”, and write heaps of fic where derek is basically a violent, entitled, possessive/jealous, sexual predator alpha male out to ravage stiles’ virgin ass. it’s all abuse culture. and in the end, it will enable the mistreatment of the biggest victims of abuse: women.
it pisses me off that these people perpetuate abuse culture, but I’m even more pissed off that so many young girls have been practically groomed into seeing abuse and aggression as sexy. I’m pissed off that abuse culture is so internalized in these girls that it’s transferred into fanfiction, which is promoted as a “healthy way for teen girls to explore their sexuality”. yes, it can be, but fanfiction, not just slash but in general, is filled with really gross, hurtful stuff, and we should actively work to fix those things.
ship sterek. ship steve/tony, johnlock, hannigram, or whatever cis white m/m ship where aggression and antagonism between the characters are a big part of their (canon) relationship. but be aware of why you find it enticing, why these ships draw you in, why you find them sexy. be aware of abuse culture. fandom and fanfiction can’t be a healthy learning environment for anyone when it’s not only full of romantization and sexualization of abuse and abusive relationships, but also misogyny (!!!), racism, ableism, cissexism, heteronormativity, bi erasure etc
um, so i don't hate sterek and i've read and enjoyed a lot of sterek fic but i completely understand where you're coming from. the ship is rather twisted and we(i) need to really analyze why we(i) enjoy it - reminds me of this post on hateships genderfluidscott(.)tumblr(.)com/post/86331095705 - anyway, i know i'm not your intended audience, sorry, but i wanted to say that i hate the backlash you've received for this completely justified blog. i love what you're doing xx
Thank you for the link! I haven’t watched the season 4 premiere yet, but I do kinda wanna touch on the aggression issue. Because it’s true. Sterek is part of what drew me into the show, but their relationship was solely aggressive behavior that was romanticized in the fandom, and I nope-d out of there pretty quickly.
So last night Derek got deaged (because Teen Wolf is literally a fanfiction written by a fourteen year old now), and I saw the gifset of it. And after I stopped laughing, I really looked at it, and I thought of where the show could take it. And well, even I paused to think of what this meant for Stiles and Derek’s relationship. They’d have to do it a certain way, but my interest is piqued. Especially if Derek’s lost his memory, and has to form new relationships with the pack. I know realistically, Teen Wolf will end up screwing it up and I’ll roll my eyes out of my head, but I could get behind a relationship (not necessarily romantic) between Stiles and Derek if they were the same age and the aggression is toned down.
Sterek is problematic because it has abusive patterns and the age difference means a serious power difference, both of which the fandom ignores entirely. That’s my problem with Sterek. And this could be a nice fix-it, if they choose to do it the right way. But again, I doubt they will.
This blog. Omfg. <3 Perfect.
i’m glad you like it!
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