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#finally a tv show that knows what i want
The sub-plot of Episode 2x7 āPlan Bā
This is just a bit of speculation on my part.Ā I really felt that the sub-theme of the lastest āThe Magiciansā episode was the love triangle between Quentin, Alice and Eliot.Ā Iām talking about 2x7 āPlan Bā
The show seemed to put any animosity over the three-way in season 1 to bed in the first episodes of season 2.Ā Everyone talked about it, and tried to make amends, and the four of them took the thrones and it seemed like it wouldnāt be brought up again.Ā Eliotās bound by a fidelity clause, and it felt, though it would take time, that Quentin and Alice would eventually make up.
I know itās likely just Niffen!Alice trying to make Quentin feel guilty,Ā but the episode goes into detail of what actually happened that night.Ā Why bring it up again when all four parties had decided to move past it?Ā Is Quentin still just that guilty over it?Ā Or has it stuck with him as some kind of revelatory moment?
Moreso, at the end of the episode Eliot sacrificing himself for Quentin mirrors Quentinās sacrifice for Alice almost down to a frame for frame replay.Ā Itās been obvious that Eliotās been in love with Quentin since the beginning of the show, so it makes sense that he would protect him.
Iām sure iām reading subtext where I want to see it, and the creators are just trying to build angst for Quentin in the next episode when he canāt help either of them, but Iād really like that to not be the case.
Alice and Fen are great characters, and I donāt want people accusing me of downplaying them for the sake of a slash pairing.Ā I just donāt think either of them work.Ā Fen for obvious reasons of her relationship to Eliot being arranged and forced, not to mention the fact that heās gay.Ā Alice and Quentin feel just as forced to me, I donāt know.Ā Ā I guess I would love to see Eliotās fidelity clause nullified somehow, and for Alice to be restored but still reluctant or refusing to get back together with Quentin.Ā
Thoughts and musings and theories are welcomed and encouraged.
so my guess about JuliaāsĀ ācomplicationsā is that they had to remove her shade to get rid of the fetus. it would make sense with the emphasis they put on how her soul and the fetuses were becoming intertwined and also there was so much foreshadowing about her shade being part of her soul thatād be easy to get rid of
I agree, it feels like that's where they're going with it, plus it would help get her to where she ends up in the books.
Every Wickoff Moment Ever | 5/?
āA magician is strong because he feels pain. He feels the difference between what the world is and what he would make of it. Or what did you think that stuff in your chest was? A magician is strong because he hurts more than others. His wound is his strength. Most people carry that pain around inside them their whole lives, until they kill the pain by other means, or until it kills them. But you, my friends, you found another way: a way to use the pain. To burn it as fuel, for light and warmth. You have learned to break the world that has tried to break you.ā
Ā ā The Magicians (2016)
1x01 || 2x07
okay but can we please talk about the fact that Eliot jumping in front of Quentin was pure instinct? Like, he wasnāt thinking āi probs wonāt die because itās not my real bodyā. He didnāt have time for that, he just did it, he just selflessly gave his life for Q. Iām sorry, iām just really emotional over this
This is just a nice look on him.
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Please do make that Eliot body language rant
I cannot tell you how many times Iāve forced people to listen as I extol the way Eliot touches him during the threesome scene, so I am DELIGHTED youāve given me an excuse to do it again.
And really, thatās what gets me is just the way he touches Q. Yes, itās a sex scene, so clearly theyāre touching, but that doesnāt mean you touch everyone the same way. I really wish we had a shot of them from further out because it really sort of looks (to me, anyway) like Quentin is in Eliotās lap for their kiss, but since we canāt see if he is or not, Iāll leave that bit of positioning alone.
Regardless, theyāre close and despite the fact that I really donāt think what weāre shown is their first kiss, thereās this moment where they hover and stare before kissing like theyāre taking a breath before taking the plunge. If you want to know why I donāt think itās their first kiss⦠You can see their hair is caught together and there has to be a severe lack of personal space for that to happen because yes, Qās hair is long, but itās not that long. A strand of Qās hair is stuck almost on top of Eliotās head, which just makes me think he crawled on top of Eliot and it fell around his face and tangled with Eliotās before they lifted back up together.
I am assuming they kissed during whatever they did to get close enough for their hair to tangle up, but maybe they didnāt. But what does happen is theyāre lingering that close and Quentinās holding his hands up like he doesnāt know what to do with them, like he isnāt sure where he can touch, but it looks like he leans in first and Eliot meets him open-mouthed.
It almost looks like Eliot wants to devour him and almost as soon as they start to kiss, Eliot has a hand on the back of Quentinās neck, holding him in place and then squeezing like heās making sure Quentin doesnāt pull away. You can see Eliotās hand slide up and tighten as he presses in closer, rising up and kissing Q harder while Q finally figures out what to do with his hands and moves to settle them on either side of Eliotās neck so theyāre both holding on to each other.
The neck squeeze is important to me. Itās possible that this is just an Eliot thing, but I prefer to think itās an Eliot with Q thing, anĀ āI finally have him and Iām not letting him goā thing. I cannot swear that Eliot never kissed Mike like that, but in the scene with Javier/Fen, heād place a guiding hand on the side of their neck or let his hand slide along their shoulder(s), but there wasnāt the same neck squeeze. We see other people give Eliot the neck squeeze (Margo and Fen both, I believe), but Eliot only does it to Quentin.
And then thereās the morning after scene. You wouldnāt think thereās much reason to squeal over this except omg, yay, theyāre in bed together, BUT YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
Eliot is in the middle of them and I donāt really care as much about why heās in the middle as much as I do about what he does while in the middle. He was drunk, he just had sex, he probably just fell down wherever, the fact heās in the middle isnāt a big deal, but it does let us see something. Eliot Waugh, while unconscious and vulnerable and stuck between his best friend and a guy he only met earlier that year, will choose to turn to the guy first.
āBut heās drunk,ā you say! Yeah⦠I have no idea how intoxicated he still is by the time theyāre done, but once heās asleep, even if heās inebriated, it seems like heād want to turn towards the greater source of comfort/security. Forget terms of attraction, we know Eliot is perfectly fine cozying up to Margo and this is sleep, this is not sex, so donāt tell me the guy in bed is the logical choice. This is about the emotional connection.Ā
Ā Eliot Waugh is in bed between his best friend and the boy she once said he was obsessed with and given the choice between them, his unconscious mind chose to be close to Quentin. He doesnāt just turn towards him in his sleep, itās more than that, he drapes an arm across Quentin like heās trying to keep him close even in sleep, absolutely prepare to hold on and squeeze to keep Q from escaping his hold. Just let him hold on a little more.
Yes, he was drinking the night before. Yes, you can call him an emotional mess because of the emotion bottle, because of Mikeās death, because of the drugs used to deal with Mikeās death. You can say those affected his behavior in bed just like you can say it was just chance Eliot flipped to cozy up to Q instead of Margo. He had to cozy up to somebody, didnāt he?
Actually, no. Both times we see Eliot in bed with Mike, Eliotās asleep on his back.Ā
We see Eliot kiss Margo, Mike, Fen, and Javier in addition to Quentin, but Qās the only one that I spotted the neck squeeze with.
We see Eliot in bed with Margo and Mike as well as Quentin, but Q is the only one he turns to.
Yeah, you can dismiss it all if you want, but Iām still going to fangirl about it.
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Physical Kids Weekly: A Magicians Podcast by Clara Sherley-Appel and Dani Lowry
friendly reminder that FTB has a podcast, Physical Kids Weekly, hosted by @fillory-clinton and @msjuliawicker [also available on soundcloud][follow on twitter]
the podcast has had surprise guests from the show, such as
Arjun Gupta
Olivia Taylor Dudley
and future guests include
Jade Tailor
Hale Appleman
Also Brittany Curran (Fen) who we will be seeing in person. Lionel Herbert (dolly grip crew member who also works on the flash). As well as Lev Grossman (the author of the series!) so much to come!
oooh i didnt know they got confirmed! thats brilliant!
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Eliot protects Quentin
When Quentin mentioned the rainbow bridge and Eliot got excited - Letās be honest he was thinking of cancer puppy.
Oh my god cancer puppy yes