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I read another fanfic by peachstaticāI'm sorry, but she's just the best fanfic writer I've ever read.
The fanfic is called Like everybody else does; it has 6 chapters and takes place during the summer before Will and Mike go to college.
one thing I really love about Peachstatic is that she doesn't forget that Will is an artist and that Mike likes his art. In every stage of Will's life that she's written about, she really takes this aspect of Will into accountāsomething the Duffers forgot.
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another thing I love about her writing is that she doesn't forget about Will and Mike's friendship; she weaves it into the story very naturally. Whatever kind of relationship they have, they never stop being friends and doing things that friends do<3
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I'd seriously read everything she writes. I know I sound like a crazy, but it's just incredible how she captures emotions. I'd even read a mileven fanfic by her xd
peachstatic has written to Will and Mike at different stages of their lives: on graduation day, before they went to college, while they were in college, and when they reunited in their thirties. and each time, sheās done it in an incredible way.
but not just because of Will and Mikeāit's also because she captures aspects of each era: music, tv shows, current events, the atmosphereāeverything, etc. It's really great.
I watched Heartstopper Forever, which is the movie that wraps up the show's story. I haven't read volumes 5 and 6 of the comics yet, but wow... it's a story I'll always recommend watching. queer love, human rights, mental health, healthy and constructive friendships and romantic relationships. pure and true love.
and this scene... seriously, I really, really recommend it to anyone who has gone through or is going through a difficult time with their mental health, or who has a loved one going through something like that. I'll always carry Heartstopper and Nick Nelson in my heartš³ļøāšā¤ļø
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fic spam!!!
and I keep coming across more and more and more HTDC fan artāit's incredible. I really love sharing this because I'm a huge fan of art in general, but even more so when it's art created with pure love and dedication.
*** at the end of this post, I've included my own thoughts on how I see Will in this story, as well as a great comment from peachstatic (the author) sharing her interpretation. I think this is necessary because I believe Will is the character who has been most misunderstood in this fanfic.
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*** I think the fandom as a whole seriously underestimates Will, and because of that, the author has, in a way, felt the need to explain how she interprets Mike and Will's dynamic in her ficāwithout, of course, dismissing readers' interpretations. even so, I'm really glad she did.
Look, I'm worried about Will getting hurt in this story too. but Will isn't some naive person with no agency who's willing to settle for crumbs, like some people make him out to be. First and foremost, Mike is his friend, and he supports him as one.
besides, Mike and Maggie's problems didn't begin when Will came back into Mike's life. the gay porn incident makes that pretty clear, as does Mike and Maggie's attempt to have a baby. And Mike himself makes his feelings pretty clear in chapter 7.
I don't think anyone is taking advantage of anyone here. they're all adults making conscious decisions, whether those decisions turn out to be good or bad.
Will achieved his dreams. he's successful, he's been in a loving relationship, and he's loved. He has a career he's passionate about. He moved on after losing Mike as a friend. Of course he missed him and needed him, but he didn't spend all those years pining away for him, like people also claim. Will's life doesn't revolve around Mike.
ā¢ā¢ā¢ and honestly, the author explains it much better than I ever could:
*** Hi! :) I typically want to let the character interpretations rest on their own because once a work is out in the world, readers are free to interpret regardless of author intention. However! I do want to share some of my insight because Iāve had a few comments regarding Will and Mikeās dynamic this chapter and in the past, and it may be helpful (or not lol) to hear my thoughts.
(Also, please, please ignore me if you want. Iām not even joking lol I'm honestly sort of anti- author opinion insertion because it literally doesn't matter what I think about how others interpret unless it's factually incorrect, and I think your feelings are fine and valid.)
But! here is my Opinion and a bit of the method to my madness:
First, Mike: I have intentionally set this story up to be one in which a man who is severely struggling in his current personal circumstances finds comfort, happiness, and a renewed understanding of life and possibility through the transformative powers of True Love and connection. So much of this story relies on the past as a foundation. Mike was in love with Will when they were younger and in college. He just didnāt recognize it as such because he didnāt understand that part of himself. Beginning to lose Will after college in the 90s and settling into the ways of conformity had such a profound effect on him that it destroyed his mental health. He hasnāt been happy with Maggie this whole time. He LOVES Maggie, and he cares for her and enjoys her company and existence in his life, but what he did in January was the result of an entire marriage and relationship of feeling like things donāt fit the way they should and assuming itās normal.
The fic begins right at the moment in which Mike is starting to recognize the WHY of it all: heās gay. And then reconnecting with Will immediately allows him to recontextualize his feelings and understand, āI was in love with him that whole time. I just didnāt understand myself enough to know it.ā So I donāt think itās a situation in which he was happy with his wife āfive seconds agoā (I know you were being hyperbolic lol) and all of a sudden finds happiness in Will; heās always found happiness in Will, and he wasnāt happy with his wife in the way he needed to be. Reconnecting just allowed that missing puzzle piece to settle into place for the first time in years.
Additionally, Mike being able to regain his sense of bravery is what the whole ficās about. He says in Chapter 1 that succumbing to conformity has turned him into a coward. This fic is about how he grows out of that and is ultimately able to do something really hard because itās right rather than easy. Conformity is the easiest thing in the world. Coming out to your wife and family, living authentically as yourself, and chasing a better future for yourself is so difficult. So far, he has chosen the easy thing. His character arc involves him learning that he can be brave like he was when he was a kid.
Now, Will: I think that ultimately, I have a very different view of him. He is way more successful than Mike, has his dream job, an incredible apartment, friends who adore and value him, has been in a long-term, loving relationship, and has been living authentically as an out gay man. I donāt at all see him as having been pining away this entire time (definitely 80s and first half of the 90s, as he admitted to) or having the lack of agency that an NPC-like character would have. He has effectively "moved on" in the sort of way a person can move on from their True Love, to whom they will always be ultimately tethered. Mike is in crisis at the beginning of this fic, and Will is living life and enjoying himself (minus the understandable loneliness and desire for a relationship). Mike is even jealous of him.
The support Will provides to Mike is out of pure love and care for someone who has been his best friend since the age of five and with whom he has a soul connection that still, after years, hasnāt been severed. The conversation subject balance has been unequal up to this point, but itās because Will simply doesnāt currently need the degree of support Mike does. I really wanted Will to have gone off and thrived in life, and he has! While he is certainly still impacted by his trauma in some ways and absolutely needs support in a bunch of other ways (that he is receiving or WILL receive through his relationship with Mike -- see the upcoming chapter), he isnāt currently going through a life crisis. I think Will is happy to help -- not because he is prostrating himself before Mike and taking whatever he can get but because he cares about him. He's an awesome human being, and as a gay man who went through his own significant personal issues with regards to his identity, he wants to help. I do recognize the parallel with season 4, but I don't think that Will's kindness and care for Mike is a reflection of desperation but reflects how truly wonderful, supportive, and loving he is as a person. While I think at first, before Mike came out, some of the talk about Maggie probably stung (she's beautiful, he loves her, etc.) Will knows the situation now. He understands Mike. In his email a while back, he was even gently suggesting that he one day potentially find "shoes that are a better fit." I want to give Will more credit, here. He's thirty-one. He's lived a life. I don't think he's the same fifteen-year-old in the back of the pizza delivery van.
I also approached the Will āinitiatingā stuff as a way to show that Will has an active role in this situation. If Mike were the one initiating everything, it could feel like heās taking advantage of Will, using him as a way to escape his miserable marriage. Instead, Will is choosing this. He wants Mike. Thatās why itās also important that Mike asks him what he thinks before answering, himself. Obviously, Mike wanted to do it again. He initiated the kiss and the sex. But it was important that Mike first knew that Will wanted to engage in that again.
Itās true that Mike hasnāt been saying things out loud to Will that he writes about to ID, but that's also something he is working on and ties into his thus-far inability to be fully authentic in himself. Heāll get there!
I think itās ultimately important to recognize that both Mike and Will are voluntarily on the Hell Bus together. There are several comments about Mike hurting Will by not swiftly ending it with Maggie, and while thatās valid, I think I mostly just donāt want to build into Will as a person who lacks agency. Itās important to me that heās an adult man who is also making a conscious choice here and doesnāt serve the purpose of just being the object that Mike uses to fulfill his desires outside his marriage. Mike and Will are choosing each other over their own morals, and thatās much more interesting to me. So while I think itās fair and kind to be concerned about Will getting hurt, I do want to say that officially, heās having a great time right now, even though he is feeling terribly morally conflicted. For him, most of the conflict will come with recognizing his own values and determining whether what heās doing with Mike aligns with them and whether being with the man he has desired since puberty is worth compromising himself.
I do appreciate your thoughtful comment! Like I said, I love reading folksā interpretations and I normally wouldnāt interfere, but I think it might be helpful for some to get an idea of what Iām thinking as Iām writing.
I was thinking about the comic Will and Mike are working on in the HTDC fanfic, and as I was rereading it while waiting for chapter 8, I saw that the fox was Dustin's idea xd, and Will came up with the name for it.
I hope someone draws Rowenāthat would make me really happy. btw, the fox used to be human lolāor so they say.
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I love this fanfic, and every piece of art inspired by it. Peachstatic, you're the best!ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
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part two of my spam from Chapter 16 of Talk to me dirty; talk to me sweet
that's why I say, I'm glad I didn't get Will's perspective in this fanfic. It would have broken my heart.
this isn't a game anymore.
it's real :')
long live queer love!!! š³ļøāš
What I liked about this is that it happened the night after Will's first kiss, and it wasn't part of the gameāit was when everything had already become real.
It wasn't perfect; it was real, human. the nerves, the fear, the awkwardness, and the clumsiness of a moment like that.
***there's only one chapter left; I'm really going to miss waiting for each update of this fic.
chapter 14
"Outside, the birds chirp. The morning comes, and maybe they can sleep now, knowing they might not be happy with the result, but theyāve fixed what they could. Mike allows himself to be sad about it, just one last time."
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Talk to me dirty; talk to me sweet has been updatedāChapter 16, the second-to-last chapter!
how embarrassing :v and Hooper heard them too lol
Mike is demisexual. The author had already confirmed it, but it's great to see this in Mike's confession, too.
although Mike obviously doesn't know he isāit's 1989āit's great to see this kind of representation in such a popular fanfic.
social expectationsāand when you don't live up to them, you have to figure things out on your own because no one understands.
Will went through that whole process alone at a very young age, and even though the Duffers didn't know how to portray a queer character living in the '80s, Will was brave and strong when the odds were stacked against him.
Will the Wise<3
I liked that Mike's confession was detailed and realisticāin the sense that he himself didn't fully understand what he was feeling, but he wanted Will to know the things he was certain of.
another thing I really liked was that Mike didn't resort to fancy words or metaphors to express how he felt. No melodramatic I love you or anything like that. he was human, nervous and afraid.
anyway.
pero esto a nadie le importa. por quĆ©? porque el fĆŗtbol mueve demasiado dinero y porque gran parte de la fanĆ”ticada del fĆŗtbol son hombres, a ellos no les importa. su Ćdolo siempre serĆ” su Ćdolo, haga lo que haga.
Y luego se atreven a decir que la denuncia de una mujer arruina la vida de un hombre? estƔn seguros de eso?
el fútbol es el deporte mÔs machista y homofobico del mundo. Puedes ser un criminal, pero no gay, eso no. Eso sà es grave.
mientras ustedes mujeres del mundo, estĆ”n haciendo guĆas para que nosotras entendamos el fĆŗtbol, porque al parecer somos estĆŗpidas. Acaso olvidaron que hay fanĆ”ticas del fĆŗtbol? mujeres hinchas? Por quĆ© hacen esto? Se tragaron el cuento de la energĆa femenina? no se dan cuenta de que ya se estĆ” cuestionado nuestro derecho a voto? de verdad quieren esto? no entiendo, de verdad no entiendo cómo para este grupo no menor de mujeres estĆ© bien con que nos infantilicen, dominen y quiten nuestros derechos.
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As I always say and believe, this is the most talented, fun and creative fandom I've ever seen. and it's the best fanfic I've ever read. Peachstatic, you deserve this love and so much more <3
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***This is the illustration just as Mike imagined it would look before he saw the one Will sent him hahaha***
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I think the main culprits behind everything that's happening in this story are homophobia and social pressure.
now it's just spam full of pure cheesiness.
homewrecker lol, it reminded me of season 5 xd
confession: I like it when Will, at least once, puts his own feelings first and stops sacrificing himself for everyone else. he did that for five whole seasons. He always sacrificed himself for the well-being of others. and I know the circumstances in this story are very questionable, but I don't know...
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I really love this. It's the best fanfic I've ever read and the best fandom I've ever been a part of<3
I keep thinking about the trip to Hawkins. Nancy knows Mike went to see Will in Chicago, and the party knows Mike saw Will in Chicago. Is Maggie going to find out somehow?
and then she'll probably call Mike during those extra days he'll be staying there. will she find out that Will is there too, since he'll be visiting Mike's family?
Is that going to be the beginning of the end?
fuck.
***by the way, Mike inviting Will to Hawkins after Maggie leaves is crazy, but love sometimes makes us act irrationally.
I hope Mike realizes that heās not only hurting Maggie with this, but Will as well. and even though Will is there by his own choice, that doesnāt mean itās easy for him. Will deserves so much more than this. Thatās why I think that at some point, Will will get fed up if Mike doesnāt come clean with Maggie. and that might give Mike the strength he needs to be brave.
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cute:3
Max and Lucas's baby is due in july. At the time of this chat, it's late march. I wonder if Will and Mike will officially be together by then. that would be niceāthat by then they'll both be free and happy...
the anniversary card feels more like a goodbye letter than an anniversary message. I feel so awful for her.
i don't know if Mike is a coward, but I do think he's terrified. He believes that if he tells the truth, everyone will turn against himāthat they'll all hate him, isolate him, and that he'll lose so much.
will it really be that bad? Maybe at first. Maybe, at first, no one will understand. It is 2002, after all, and things were different back then. but the 'happy ending' tag gives me some peace of mind.
and then there's Will... I really felt for him here. He's genuinely scared, stuck in such a horrible situation, yet he's still letting himself follow what he feels.
I know he'll be happy in the end, but the road to getting there is probably going to be really rough.
P is Paula, Maggie's mom.
Maggie knows that Mike isnāt telling her everything, that something is going on. I canāt help but wonder if she ever connected Mikeās trip to Chicago with Will. she knows Will lives there. Weeks before that trip, when it wasnāt even a possibility, she asked Mike about Will; she knew about Willās feelings for Mikeāat least from years ago. Itās just a matter of putting two and two together, right?
honestly, if Mike manages to tell her the truth, Iād like him to leave Will out of itānot to drag him into this. I hope thatās how it turns out.
Maggie has been criticized a lot for things she's said and done, but everyone seems to forget what Mike has done. I think that, both in canon and in fanfics, no matter what Mike does, he almost always ends up being justified and forgiven.
In this story, no one is 100% right, and everyone makes mistakes in one way or another. That's what makes it feel so human and real. adult life is like thatāvery few people are completely happy after thirty.
And that's the reality of being queer, especially twenty years ago.
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damn. she was really cruel to Mike here. It made me feel terrible for him. but okay, okay, okay, I have to be objective. What Mike is doing is cruel, too.
all of this shows a serious lack of communication between them; I don't understand how they've been together for 10 years.
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how could they have forgotten his birthday? Is this a reference to the Duffers? aaaargh!
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If I see fan art of this, I'll pass outāseriously.
les voy a poner otro temón:
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A new chapter of How to Disappear Completely!!!
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shit... well, Mike...
uuuuf, what a bunch of homophobic jerks her friends are.
okay, I get where sheās coming fromāI swear I understand that her desperation led her to do that because Mike is so closed off and never tells her anything. And besides, Mike isnāt exactly a saint either. Aaaah, this fanfic is driving me crazy.
in this chapter, we see the party again!!! In my upcoming posts about this chapter (yes, there will be more posts), I'll talk more about that group chat.
the ideal scenario is for Mike to tell Maggie the truth before she finds out. But will that actually happen? I don't think so. I hope it does, but I don't think so.
okay, man, sometimes I just feel like kicking you. You didn't even wait an hourāseriously?
I thinkāassuming the fic will have around 12 chaptersāthat somewhere between chapters 8 and 9, Maggie will discover part of the truth, unless Mike tells her first. and it'll be because of that encounter between Will and Mike in Hawkins.
Mike, seriously, hurry up. otherwise, that bus to hell is going to crash.
In this chapter, they're really cheesy and nerdy. I took about 50 screenshots of that.
and in chapter 8, we're going to spy on Will and Mike again for 3 days!!!
I'll include here a very important note that the author left in this chapter, because she's absolutely right.
I quote:
-Literally no one in this fic is 100% right, and no one is 100% wrong. I do enjoy reading your perspectives on these characters. For what it's worth, when I say "happy ending," I mean it for all. Every single character in this story deserves better than what life has given them up to this point, and I want them to get it. :) If you want my opinion (and feel free to ignore): People are messy and impulsive and are driven by desire, whether that be for love, societal acceptance, sex, understanding, truth, harmony, or companionship. My therapy notes are an attempt to place both Maggie and Mike on an even playing field, exposing both their virtues and vices and demonstrating that each has desire-driven motivation without malice. They have tremendous love and affection for each other but will never work out because they are incompatible in all the ways that matter in a romantic and sexual relationship. Even outside the incompatible sexuality issue, their communication styles are misaligned. Ultimately, Mike needs Will for all Will represents (authentic sexual desire, friendship, shared interests and goals, history, trust), and Maggie needs another kind man who will give her the attention and affection she deserves and requires, the WAY she deserves and requires. Maggie also needs individual therapy. I'm working on it. :) Also: Mike is doing a BAD THING. He is going to continue doing Bad Things. He is hurting a woman who does not deserve to be hurt, but he is also in a complicated position of being absolutely terrified of the consequences of destroying ten years of stability. Coming out to Maggie will change their lives FOREVER. It will change the lives of their families. It will destroy this nebulous future they'd planned and invested in, even if it wasn't what Mike wanted to begin with. On the other hand, not coming out to Maggie will continue to make both of them miserable, even if it delays immediate chaos. People are complicated. Life is hard. Pain will happen because there is no way for this to be a win-win situation until they all look back on it in ten years and see what they have before them: the beautiful results of desire-driven, impulsive decisions that ultimately led them exactly where they needed to be in the end.