i wish some of you had critical thinking skills or like even a singular brain cell but no instead you have cymbal monkey in your brain that makes you think aging up minors for ships with adults makes it okay
It is okay
because when you age a character up, they are no longer a minor– they are of consenting age or of adult-age. They also aren’t real.
Normal people are not Antis, since normal people don’t harass, dox, suicide bait, witch hunt, bully, manipulate, gaslight, send real pictures of gore or child porn to individuals who simply like a fictional ship or character they don’t agree with.
Maybe you’re the one who needs to grow a fucking functioning brain if you can’t understand that.
I’m pretty sure therapists, scientists, and other such experts know more than you do, OP, so maybe you should get off your soapbox and leave people alone. They’re not hurting you or anyone else with liking fictional shit. You on the other hand? You’re hurting real people, innocent people, so it’s you that’s the bad guy here.
Yeah, they do, that’s why they’ve written a multitude of papers and done a variety of studies that show fiction does in fact affect reality. I’m sorry that your negative brain cell count prevents you from looking into it yourself, and that you think getting all ur information off of similar empty headed anti anti discourse blogs on tumblr.com. means that you know all. I hope one day you recover from being a Freak
@yoonbum-in-drag you wanna dump all the sources you have here because this person apparently thinks science is on their side lmao?
I’ve most likely read those multitude of papers and more, and so far fiction simply affects reality overwhelmingly positively, or negatively for those who cannot consume fiction normally like the mentally unstable/emotionally unstable and those extremely young and unsupervised and neglected.
@comfortship
Normalization and Desensitization regarding Fiction
The dangers and harm misusing serious terms like pedophilia/pedophile cause
Antis use of Slippery Slope and radical zealot/far-right conservative rhetoric
Why there is no real Moral Responsibility in fiction / Why Antis show an unhealthy amount of Moral Purity and Disgust Sensitivity, or Imaginative Resistance to fiction
If you’d like, you can read the entire research paper in full here.
fiction does not affect reality the way you want to believe.
The statistics for rape, child abuse, assault, murder, etc. have all experienced a dramatic decline over the past few decades, in spite of our media becoming more graphically violent, and pornography being more easily accessible. Your logic just doesn’t hold up to the facts (by the way, this also applies to stories with mature themes like rape or murder, or stories with abusive or taboo relationships. IT’S JUST FICTION, PEOPLE. It’s a reflection of various aspects of our humanity, which includes the things we most fear. Writing and reading about them is one way we can strip them of that fear and power they hold over us. It doesn’t mean we stop recognizing those things as morally wrong–it’s just a way of reconciling their existence, and coping with it).
Psychology of Scary Movies No correlation to murder or violence
In New Study, Video Games Not Tied to Violence in High-Risk Youth No correlation to murder or violence
Listening to ‘extreme’ music makes you calmer, not angrier, according to study no correlation to murder or violence or even becoming a satanic lesbian who sacrifices unborn babies. Shocking.
Violent Video Games and Movies Causing Violent Behavior
But research is clearly lacking on a direct causal relationship between violent video games and youth violence. Interestingly, the US has the highest homicide rate in the world. But, as Fareed Zakaria noted in The Washington Post, the Japanese are avid video game players and have a homicide rate close to zero.
The fact is that analyses of school shooting incidents from the US Secret Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime do not support a link between violent games and real world attacks.
Lots of people read Homer’s Odyssey. And most of those people read this poem in the 9th grade. There is no denying its violence, and there is no denying it’s cultural value.
Are we comparing The Odyssey to movies like Natural Born Killers? Not exactly. But we want to be extremely cautious about where we draw our lines. Just as the Supreme Court noted, fairy tales are often quite violent. So are Disney films. (Go watch the first scene of Finding Nemo when Nemo’s mother is killed. Or watch the scene in The Lion King when Simba’s uncle, Scar, kills his father, Mufasa.)
Discussing why violent content pervades some of our most powerful and cherished metaphors is the subject of a different post, but it is clear that we’ve had violent visual content much longer than we’ve had mass shootings. If anything, much of this violence serves as reminder of how NOT to behave. Odysseus, is after all, reprimanded and punished by the gods for his bloody excess.
Writing Online Fiction Saved My Life
“Alongside a circle of internet friends, I used online storytelling to process and eventually understand the most troubled period of my life.”
Writing Wrongs: Writing About Trauma Leads to Better Endings
His original intention in offering the class was simple: he wanted to help students viscerally and personally connect with what makes books like Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises and F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Crack-Up powerfully special. Traditional narratives generally begin with a character who has a desire. The story flows from that character’s choices and the conflicts that ensue relative to that desire. “But the trauma narrative is opposite,” Johnson explains. “Instead of our hero moving toward achieving his desire, he’s evading what’s difficult to confront. He’s constantly escaping what he doesn’t want to deal with.”
Johnson found that writers in his course began opening up to him and to themselves in profound ways. Some would cry. Others would reveal things through their work that they later would say they never imagined telling anyone. Perhaps this was just a side effect of asking students to think about their pasts.
In 1986, James Pennebaker and Sandra Klihr Beall at Southern Methodist University conducted the first experimental study on what would come to be called the “writing cure”. They asked 46 undergraduates to sit quietly in a lab room with pen and paper for 15 minutes a day, four days in a row. During those brief periods, they instructed some of the students to journal about their thoughts and feelings related to a personally upsetting experience from the recent past, while others wrote about superficial topics like the configuration of their living space. The results, published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, showed that students who wrote about their negative experiences were in better health several months later and had visited the campus health center significantly less than those who didn’t write about their traumas.
Trauma and the Benefits of Writing About It
Research by my colleague Jamie Pennebaker and his colleagues suggests that one of the best therapies for this kind of psychological trauma is also one of the simplest: writing. He describes this procedure in a 1997 paper in Psychological Science. People are asked to spend three consecutive days writing about one or more traumatic events. They are encouraged to really explore the thoughts and emotions surrounding the event, and to tie it to relationships with significant others. In studies of this technique, people doing this writing are compared to others who write about unemotional topics like time management.
As you might expect, writing about these emotional events was very difficult for people. They did not enjoy the experience, and they found it painful.
However, the long-term effects of this writing were fascinating. If you followed the people in these studies over time, they reported fewer illnesses, they went to the doctor less often, and they suffered fewer symptoms of depression in the future. They were less likely to miss work and school, and their performance at work went up. These effects lasted for months and years after writing.
The benefit is in creating a story that links together the emotional memories. Making these traumatic events more coherent makes memories of these events less likely to be repeatedly called to mind, and so they can be laid to rest.
Fiction, Reality, Fandom and Adulthood: a media academic and CSA/incest victim’s account
The Heart-Work: Writing About Trauma as a Subversive Act
Writing to heal
FICTION AND THE NEED TO BELONG
‘Losing Yourself’ In A Fictional Character Can Affect Your Real Life - Ohio State Research and Innovation Communications
“When you “lose yourself” inside the world of a fictional character while reading a story, you may actually end up changing your own behavior and thoughts to match that of the character, a new study suggests.“
Researchers at Ohio State University examined what happened to people who, while reading a fictional story, found themselves feeling the emotions, thoughts, beliefs and internal responses of one of the characters as if they were their own - a phenomenon the researchers call “experience-taking.”
And what is Experience Taking? : the imaginative process of spontaneously assuming the identity of a character in a narrative and simulating that character’s thoughts, emotions, behaviors, goals, and traits as if they were one’s own.
Do you mean trying to analyze the character? Trying to understand what they’re going through? Why they’re doing what they’re doing? I believe that’s also called critical thinking. Or even Perspective-Taking.
In one experiment, for example, the researchers found that people who strongly identified with a fictional character who overcame obstacles to vote were significantly more likely to vote in a real election several days later.
Nothing negative here.
“Experience-taking can be a powerful way to change our behavior and thoughts in meaningful and beneficial ways,” said Lisa Libby, co-author of the study and assistant professor of psychology at Ohio State University.
Meaningful and beneficial! WOW!
In another experiment, people who went through this experience-taking process while reading about a character who was revealed to be of a different race or sexual orientation showed more favorable attitudes toward the other group and were less likely to stereotype.
POSITIVE! NEXT!
“Experience-taking changes us by allowing us to merge our own lives with those of the characters we read about, which can lead to good outcomes,” said Geoff Kaufman, who led the study as a graduate student at Ohio State. He is now a postdoctoral researcher at the Tiltfactor Laboratory at Dartmouth College.
Experience-taking doesn’t happen all the time. It only occurs when people are able, in a sense, to forget about themselves and their own self-concept and self-identity while reading, Kaufman said.
It’s also not a common thing, huh.
While people are more likely to lose themselves in a character who is similar to themselves, what happens if they don’t learn that a character is not similar until later in a story?
Results showed that the students who read the story where the character was identified as gay late in the narrative reported higher levels of experience-taking than did those who read the story where the character’s homosexuality was announced early.
“If participants knew early on that the character was not like them - that he was gay - that prevented them from really experience-taking,” Libby said.
So if you’re not a murderer and read about a murderer, you’re not really going to be affected for days due to Experience Taking, because you yourself are not a murderer. Maybe you could Experience Take if they were abused or raped, if you were abused or raped– but not if they murder, cause surprise surprise, you are not a murderer and thus this isn’t going to make you want to commit murder days later!
“If people identified with the character before they knew he was gay, if they went through experience-taking, they had more positive views - the readers accepted that this character was like them,” Kaufman said.
If you didn’t know the character was evil and a murder you would possibly like them and relate to them in some way– but so far I haven’t met anyone who’s related to a villain or a fictional murderer because they too murder and rape and abuse.
Libby said experience-taking is different from perspective-taking, where people try to understand what another person is going though in a particular situation - but without losing sight of their own identity.
You’d be surprised how many of us who are actually critical of media, use perspective-taking.
I can’t read block text my medication wore off like seven hours ago dude r u gonna like and subscribe or nah bro?
That’s not even block text, it’s in paragraphs and everything. You’re literally just a lazy sack of shit who can’t formulate intelligent and coherent arguments with facts, nor can you seem to read or write correctly.
It’s like a six year old.
Thanks for showing your followers that you’re purposefully ignorant, doing my job for me.
I have adhd among other things.
I’m on mobile it is in block text.
You are very ablelist though I suppose in the long run it doesn’t matter to your followers since the singular brain cell you collectively share was nothing more than pocket lint.
Anyways are you done now? Did you get your point across that ur not gonna like and subscribe?
Well that’s a you problem, not mine, especially since on my mobile it’s still relatively easy to read and not in blocktext.
I have a bit of dyslexia, what’s your point.
I mean you’re the one who makes fun of people for being stupid or having no brain because they can actually separate fiction and reality and understand the nuances of it, unlike you– I’d say that’s pretty ableist too, especially since a lot of selfshippers or shippers in general are mentally ill or have some kind of mental disorder or disability.
And you can block me– I mean you’re 18, act like the fucking adult you are and use the tools given to you instead of making posts mocking people for not being abusive, suicide baiting, manipulative, gaslighting pricks like you over fiction, and maybe start caring about real people for a change.
Oh man, big L on my part bc I’m finally responding to this nonsense seriously…Anyways, thank you for being so abelist constantly and taking things so very out of context, was very helpful. Yes, I did actually read the sources, and believe it or not, I just didn’t fucking care enough about arguing the moral logistics behind why you shouldn’t create and publish content like this at the time. I really had better shit to do.
Alright, so let’s begin! I’ve seen quite a few people say that I am “denying science” which is funny because most of these articles aren’t scientific in nature. They’re either too dated to really properly be cited (even at the time you first responded) or simply opinions and not factual. But I’ll be nice and add to your little freak ego, I have the time.
The first four are posts off of your own blog, and I am so very disheartened to say that, you don’t really have the credentials to discuss this, now do you? More opinions than anything else, hmm? Opinions don’t really add to factual evidence.
The “research paper” is a share point. Last I checked it was mostly definitions, and no I won’t read it in full now. Because it’s discussing things on a technicality based off of the definitions. Oh, and what’s this? No author credentials? Guess that’s pretty baseless too.
The next “source” link doesn’t even work anymore, dreadful I know.
See, then you’re discussing statistics with no actual statistical evidence to back it up. Further more, just because the statistics have supposedly experienced a “decline” doenst necessarily mean that the media is the reason why. You’re big and smart, shouldn’t you know that those two things have no correlation? Or would you like an example?
Oh, scary movie source. Hmm, we were discussing pedophilic, incestuous, and generally abusive content. But, again, I am so very magnanimous and will simply tell you to get the fuck back on topic, we weren’t discussing the correlation between violence in media to the violent nature of possible crimes.
Oh this source, again, off topic, but I am kind. So here’s what it’s about!
“Drs. Christopher Ferguson and Cheryl Olson discovered violent video games such as ‘Mortal Kombat,’ ‘Halo’ and ‘Grand Theft Auto’ did not cause high-risk teens (those with symptoms of depression or attention deficit disorder) to become aggressive bullies or delinquents.”
Oh, nothing about that pedophilic, incestuous, or abusive content… Unfortunately, I would have to send a request to the journalist to see the article in full, and I’ve better thing to do at the moment, so we will leave it at that.
One about music! Fun, again, very off topic, but I am nice. The article discusses the possible ties of “extreme music” to violence. I haven’t a clue why you wanted to bring lesbians and unborn children into this. At the end of it, there is also a fun little tidbit, about limitations to the study and such.
“Although citing the limitations of the study, such as the experiment being conducted in a laboratory under controlled conditions (rather than subjects ruminating in solitude in a bedroom), the study refutes the notion that extreme music causes anger. It notes, however, that “further research is required to replicate these findings in naturalistic social contexts, and to investigate the potential contributions of individual listener variables on the relationship between extreme music listening and anger processing.”
Again with the movies and the video games, discusses similar things as the above ones. It’s not an actual research paper. It’s from 2012 so it’s a bit dated, but that’s alright. If you took the time to read the article in full you’d also know that at the end the author specifically mentions “know your children” just be careful with the media you give them access too. You know, like normal parents… Off topic, again.
Ooo out of context quotes from articles! Love those. Yes you’re correct, there is a lack of research and no correlation. But, again, not really what we were discussing. Same with The Odyssey, and everything else you’ve just said, not on topic.
Oh this source, I read it. Did you? Here are some excerpts
“I began exploring issues I would later examine more extensively with the aid of a therapist.”
There’s that “aid of a therapist” bit again. Almost like one should be in a safe and controlled environment when they write about these things… Again, no where in this article does this man discuss that he wrote pedophilic/incestuous content. No where does it say that he was coping by writing such content in unsafe environments like that. It literally says that he created specific characters and explores the issues with the aid of a therapist. He then later says that:
“I started therapy, took medication, practiced meditation.”
You took that whole article out of context and cherry picked a single quote from the beginning like that. You twisted this man’s words so it seemed like it supported your argument. Which is frankly, kind of gross all things considered.
This source, dated, but whatever. Not really a research paper or proper article. It’s mostly speculation about things we have already come to know. However, it doesn’t really say anything about creating pedophilic/incestuous/etc. content and posting it online. It also states that even though some studies have turned forth positives there are also some that “…not all studies have found positive effects for all types of problems”. Once again you take things out of context.
This one is from 2009…I’m, okay… This one is talking about writing about traumatic incidents, it’s rather short… It basically says that journaling can help you come to terms with specific traumas. Basically it can help you process specific events like “death of a loved one…Abuse you suffer…” not very in depth… also brings up a study done in 1997.
“Research by my colleague Jamie Pennebaker and his colleagues suggests that one of the best therapies for this kind of psychological trauma is also one of the simplest: writing. He describes this procedure in a 1997 paper in Psychological Science. People are asked to spend three consecutive days writing about one or more traumatic events.”
Oh, there’s that safe and controlled environment thing again…Oh and no mentions of posting it online for all to see…hmm, really makes you think.
Oh, I liked this source! A personal post off of someone’s blog. Funny how I never used victims as a shield here, also equally funny how you seem to be trying to… It’s so short… With no factual evidence, or academic merits…
This one is about identifying with fictional characters and the impact it has on voting and day to day life? Okay… Uh-huh, this doesn’t support your argument either big brain. You really seem to have a problem understanding academic papers… Anyways, the experience taking thing discussed is about how some people can incorporate that into day to day life. Does not mention creating the usual gross content lol.
Anyways!!! If you were so critical of the media you consumed you probably wouldn’t support Killing Stalking. The series that a lady created so that her and her fellow mlm fetishists (fujoshis) could jack it to torture porn. Woah… You support homophobic content creators? Doenst seem too critical.
Then you mention the usual “suicide baiting” and “gaslighting” and boy I don’t think you know what those words mean. But you’re so incredibly smart, so brilliant, you can look it up. But I wonder if you’ll take that out of context too… You seem to take a lot of things out of context.
Anyways, that was very long. Your view about “fiction not impacting reality” is not only very bad and often twisted to support your freak arguments. It’s also a super dangerous mindset and very irresponsible especially if you’re a grown ass adult. Because this entire fucking post? Your whole response? That was irresponsible, it was bad. You are part of the god damn problem.
As I mentioned before, none of these articles said shit about producing and publishing your freak content for all the see. Most of the people that did use this as a form of therapy did so within a safe and controlled environment, and I don’t know if you noticed that none of these people published what they wrote about. They didn’t publish it online for funsies or whatever.
What you seem to fatally misunderstand is that when you create and publish this kind off content online, you are giving ammunition to people who do not have the best intentions. You add fuel to an already burning fire. Furthermore, you normalize and diminish the impact these kinds of vile things have on the world around them. Because people see this shit in your media and in your art and think its fucking normal, when it’s not.
Your intentions may not be bad in nature, but by creating content like that you create safe spaces for people who do have bad intentions. It’s irresponsible. All this abuse apologism shit this entire subculture of supporting gross shit like this is irresponsible, and if you cared so much for people like you claim you do, you’d realize that. But most of you are too petty to realize that what you’re doing is wrong. Because at the end of the day, you don’t care who the fuck you hurt in the long run. As long as you get the last laugh and “own the antis” it doesn’t really matter to you.
P.S. motherfuckers fiction does have an impact on reality, and claiming it doenst is racist on top of everything else. Now kindly go shove your whole ego right back up your ass and get fucked, cunt.
i cannot believe the person who originally said all that dog shit is majoring in criminology and thinks reverse oppression is real....woah..we rlly do live in a society....