Artist Interview: Philip von Zweck
Philip von Zweck is an artist based here in Chicago, IL. I had the pleasure of interviewing him about his life and work.
I noticed you were from Slidell! How do you think your background relates to your work, both art-related and otherwise? What brought you to Chicago, and what kept you here?
Thank you, it is an interesting question about how background relates to work and life, etc. but not an easy one. I mean, isn’t that kind of what therapy is about? I feel like I could answer it in a few different ways (and will), and they might all be wrong. But I’ll give it a shot and try to not be on this couch for hours….
I was/ am not a good student.
I think I started school too young and am self-diagnosed as a dyslexic with some degree of ADHD. Shocker but… Louisiana doesn’t have the greatest public education system so when I was really struggling with reading at the end of the second grade my parents put me in a very small secular private school. There were between 16 and, maybe, 20 students per grade. By the time I got to junior high (6th grade) skateboarding was the common fascination of the boys and the small basketball court, which was pretty much the only piece of pavement on the school grounds, was usually taken over by skating at lunchtime. Skate culture was the thing all the guys did, like if there were 30 boys in junior high, I bet 25 had boards. Skating had a tremendous influence on me, especially in relation to art. Not only through board graphics and magazines but in particular street skating trains one to reimagine the built environment as a playground, to imagine and enact potential, and that expands out to looking for the creative potential in any circumstance. Skateboarding also introduced me to punk and post punk music which, in time, led to experimental and avant-garde music which has also been very important to me over the years, especially in terms of community post college.
Another important aspect of being in Slidell was just proximity to New Orleans, one of the greatest cities on earth even if it wasn’t as interested in the versions of contemporary culture as I was growing up. Perhaps it has changed now.
If we’re talking about background relating to work then of course, parents play a big role. My parents seemed to theoretically like what might broadly be categorized as “culture” but they are people of science and that sort of skepticism has defiantly been impactful but not necessarily helpful.
That background stuff said, which probably only scratches the surface: I took the Amtrak from Hammond on my 18th birthday to attend the only college I applied to: SAIC. A few months after graduating I started producing/hosting a weekly radio program which I left after 15 years, so that was one thing that kept me here, plus friends, relationships, etc. I considered moved to LA for grad school but I got a better deal from UIC then Art Center so stayed put. After grad school I taught for a year at Brooklyn College but being broke, lonely, and NY’s lack of allies led me to leave.
Now I have a job I generally like; I’m married with a daughter, two cats and a home; I have a gallery I like to work with; and although I haven’t been active lately some folks still remember me, so I just sort of feel settled.
You've been involved in the Chicago art scene for many years. In your view, how has the art scene changed over time, and how do you see it developing in the future?
I have been involved with a Chicago art scene for a sometime but having moved away from most of my community to the far Southside seven or so years ago, having a child and a pandemic I’m not as active or in the know as I once was so I may not be the best person to ask.
What I think I’m seeing, and this may be more of a 30,000-foot view, is that the art scene I was trained for by SAIC, the one that aspires to blue chip galleries and “encyclopedic” and “contemporary” museums, an art scene which comes directly from European colonialism and white supremacy is, to some extent, becoming less resistant to acknowledging other art scenes, other traditions or practices. As for the future I can’t make predictions but the hopeful side of me wants more of that.
You work with many kinds of media, including radio and sculpture. What do you like about each medium? How is your approach different for each?
I don’t really think about mediums. I often think more about access and possibilities, how can I take this thing I have access to and use it. You’re going to give me access to a xerox machine, I’m going to make zines; you’re going to give me access to a radio station, now I’m doing a show, or two; you’re going to give me an office, now it’s a gallery…
I used to say that my projects stemmed from two conceits 1) a desire to make stuff, to participate, without knowing what I wanted to make 2) a desire to make work for a non-art audience. These weren’t necessarily represented evenly in every project but for me there is very little difference between Something Else which was a weekly radio program of experiential sound work that only broadcast work submitted for airplay and Temporary Allegiance which was a 25ft flagpole on UIC’s campus where folks could sign up to fly whatever they wanted for a week at a time. They’re both public space so can find a non-art audience and they both allow me to participate without generating some of the content. I think of it as nested authorship, I make the pole someone else makes the flag…
That changed to an extent when I started wanting to free myself from a certain orthodoxy, I wanted to feel free to make anything, not just the sort of projects I already mentioned because that sort of liberation, to feel free, was the goal from the outset and I was in a rut. My problem remains content, the question of what to make but now I’m outsourcing that less frequently…
Even now though I think my approach isn’t medium specific, but I do like to spend time researching materials and techniques and I guess that would be medium specific. I’d probably be better off if I spent less time doing that and more time actually making things in the studio.
What is it like running an art gallery out of your own living room and office? Would you recommend it to other curators or artists?
There is a long tradition, especially in Chicago, of what’s known as Apartment Galleries or Artist Run Spaces. Some of these, like Western Exhibitions, are now well-established commercial galleries, but many have a short shelf life. For me doing shows in my living room was great, I only worked with people I wanted to work with, with people I trusted with keys to my apartment. I got to engage with these artists one a different level, like, if you’re an introvert it can be hard to just talk to people but doing a show, writing the press release, hanging the art, having an opening, having gallery hours, those are all excuses to connect with people. So for me it was very rewarding and it is a great way to build community. I highly recommend it to artists and curators; I almost think it should be a requirement, like a rite of passage. I don’t want to do it in my house and they changed the building access policies so I can’t really do it in my office anymore, but if someone wants to give me a space I’d go back to putting on shows and programming.















