it's crazy how V's "harassment" started as people telling her not to make posts romanticizing how she abused someone. not that her poems are shit, not that shes a bad person (albeit that did sneak in the second that she disregarded every attempt at communication and posted a second poem references leaf's sexually abusive ex partner), not that she should harm herself in any way, not that she should deactivate. no. the insisting "harassment" was people telling her it's gross to romanticize her abusive actions and it's gross to continue to victimize herself in the breakup.
viscerast is sited as "harassing" V by... making a post in the dailyverse community tab, informing folks that she's being removed from the lore, server, community, blogs, etc because of her actions and to not interact with her. later, a screenshot of that was uploaded onto the dailyverse-updates account for members that aren't in the community. viscerast is a moderator in the discord and helps manage data about the dailyverse, like how many accounts there are, which ones are active, which post lore, what their blogsonas are, etc. this was well within its scope of duties.
also, tagging people in a post because they were "harassing" someone is weird. that's opening them to harassment for not supporting an abuser. you're weird as fuck. what viscerast, jesus offical, and dvupdates did is nothing like that. you can't just tell a group of person "hey we're removing this person from the story you're weaving, don't interact with her!" and then not specify which lore blogs she runs at the least.
i wont deny that V got hate anons (and those were harassment. i've already publicly and privately condemned harassing her especially with asks of that nature because i knew they'd cut deeper than any generic hatemail), but i can vouch for every other horseman that the asks that we've sent can be counted on our fingers, and that they were all public, neutral and civilized in some manner. none of them got answered because they were all trying to establish boundaries and temporary communication with V. a point i've seen brought up repeatedly is that V tried to cut contact but we wouldn't allow her. the poems themselves are proof that's not the case, but outside of that if you check her personal blog and god offical, you can see that she checked in on the dailyverse to see the 'drama', and that she was even going to enter the discourse herself. not once did V state in the dailyverse server before she was banned that she was going to work on herself, not once did she say she'd like to go no-contact (contrarily, her headmate & made a sideblog so we could keep in contact), and not once did she own up and properly apologize for her actions without twisting it into a self-victimizing, guilt trippy mess.
but the fact that yall immediately assumed that every hate anon was made by leaf's friends, those who are condemning literal abuse, is worrying at best.
why is it every time there's an abusive situation, the victim has to stay silent and hold their tongue and be cordial and sweet and soft lest they be accused of reactive abuse when they finally explode after months or years of poor treatment? my defence of leaf and our conclusion of abuse happened before i even heard the worst of V's actions. i'm nowhere near having heard it all. leaf snapping at V isn't abuse, it isn't harassment. it's a MOLECULE of treatment they received in their relationship.
i once considered V a friend. she used that status to hurt me in her own way. she never apologized to me- not even a lousy 'sorry' which is all leaf got- and i'm sure i'll never get that apology.
the entire reason for the horseman accounts were, originally, because an anonymous account was going from post to post of anyone condemning V's actions, accusing us of harassing her. even personal vents that she would not reasonably be able to see. the original horseman, famine if i recall correctly, is still completely anonymous. I don't know who they are, leaf doesn't know who they are, none of the other horsemen do. none of us told them to make that account, none of us even pitched the idea.
the horsemen (past famine) were also made because we had reason to suspect that anonymous-shitposter was in the discord server and posed a threat to the members. 90% of the posts were bait in some way to see if they'd provide information that you could only get from the server. this feels like fair action due to the anonymous nature and the fact that the owner himself felt incredibly unsafe due to the amount of personal information that could have been easily dug up and posted if anonymous was malicious enough.
then they were goofy troll accounts. even this blog was originally a parody because the famine horseman seemed so overly serious that it was goofy. that's why my first post is even like that. then came the circus. self explanatory, really. honestly, how can you see a blog called "the clown horseman" replying to posts with pictures of clowns and take it seriously.
i sincerely apologize to anonymous shitposter, alexi (sorry i honestly cant remember how to spell your username and i'm NOT risking losing this post to check), noelle sharktranny, clover (again im not checking the username) and anybody else who got dragged into this situation.
anonymous and alexi, on the behalf of clown and myself, i apologize for how we've acted towards you two. the shipping, albeit a funny joke at the time, did not take into consideration romance/sex aversion, boundaries and related triggers. i'd offer to delete the post, but i don't know how much good that'd do now considering how every reblogged iteration will have the originating post (and it has 99 reblogs as of typing this).
noelle, clover, and everyone else who received aggressive asks "in defence of the horseman" or something to the like, i apologize. this isn't your fight. you aren't automatically evil for being friends with someone who's hurt someone. i hope you can find some good out of this interaction, even if its minimal (looking at you alexi and noelle. you two seem like you'd be good friends /gen)
our actions do not reflect leaf. our actions do not excuse V's actions because she got backlash. V's actions do not excuse real harassment, however her actions have opened her to consequence and criticism, especially if she continues to publicize it through poems.
further communication with this blog or clown horseman's will be ignored. i don't even get notifications. we big you adieu.
