Sobinova Daria

  Russian fangirl, feminist, ficwriter and critic. 

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Song: The Front Bottoms — Peach

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I see no difference

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Why do I ship Sabriel?

I ship Sabriel because I sincerely love both of these characters and wish only the best for them. I ship Sabriel because both of them need family – not just a family by blood, not just a “it sort of happened” family, but a family that was chosen knowingly and on their own. I ship Sabriel because I believe that they could build a relationship which would make each of them feel better than when they were alone.

Both of them are painfully addicted to their families. Both of them have tried to run away from their families and concomitant responsibility. But both of them have found the strength to come back. I ship them because they understand each other well because of this.

Sam is very attached to his brother. Gabriel seems to me as the one who could accept it (in fact, already did in a “Mystery spot”) and not to make Sam choose between them. I ship Sabriel because their relationship could fit into the Winchesters’ life without severing the brotherly ties.

Gabriel openly spoke of liking for Dean. Dean openly spoke of understanding Gabriel. I ship Sabriel because Gabriel can become a part of the family.

Sam is a hunter who has lost a lot of people he loved. Gabriel is one of the few people who don’t need to be worried about all the time – at least, worrying too much, as he is himself a part of the supernatural world. I ship them because their relationship is possible in the Winchesters’ universe.

I ship them because of the way they looked at each other when they first met. I ship them for consistently keeping each other emotional. I ship them because they couldn’t stay indifferent to each other from the very beginning.

I saw how Gabriel tortured Sam in the “Mystery spot”. I saw how he stopped because Sam asked him to. I saw how much Sam’s attitude to Dean has changed after that. I ship Sabriel because they can influence each other.

I saw Gabriel leaving Sam because he thought it was right. I saw Sam leaving Gabriel because he thought it was right. I ship them because they still remain their true selves when interacting.

Gabriel is as much of a “deserter” as Sam is a “hero”. Gabriel is as much of an “egomaniac” as Sam is a “martyr”. I ship them because in a best-case scenario together they can balance each other and find a middle ground.

Sam spoke about his faith in angels in 2x13 – and Gabriel appeared in 2x15. Sam spoke about losing his faith is 13x11 – and Gabriel appeared in 13x13. I ship them because Sam deserves a better support of his faith than vain prayers. I ship them because Gabriel can justify this faith.

Sam is almost incapable of having a good rest and Gabriel, apparently, of working. I ship them because their joint activities could be much more productive than when they work alone.

Lucifer. Asmodeus. Not just a torture, but a degrading torture. I ship Sabriel because both of them understand what it’s like and can help each other cope.

Both Sam and Gabriel took serious approach to permanent relationships and respected their partners. They both value their families equally. I ship Sabriel because I think that without this there could be no deep connection and long-term relationship.

I think that Gabriel is a lecher more often in words than in deeds and it’s the same with Sam being a prude. I ship them because I believe in a match of their sexualities on practice.

Sam and Gabriel have different temperaments. But I ship them because that wouldn’t let them be bored with each other and because a high level of understanding wouldn’t let it become a problem and because they hardly could spend so much time together that they would start annoying each other. I ship them because their interaction could be interesting but wouldn’t exhaust them.

I ship them because they could get one dog for both of them.

I ship them because they, within their abilities, tried to protect each other.

I ship them because someone other than Dean could make Sam smile more.

I ship them because Sam can see (and already did that) something human behind Gabriel’s facade.

I ship them… Because of many more reasons. But there is one main thing.

I ship them because they belong together. Because I believe: they could love each other and could have their “happy ever after” for a relatively long time.

That’s why.

This post was originally written in Russian for my blog on the social network VK and translated by my friend.

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Thanks so much for your responses, I’m glad to share this with you! I’ll try to move my other posts here  — about spn and sabriel and more, so there's plenty of other stuff to come ;)

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Why do I ship Sabriel?

I ship Sabriel because I sincerely love both of these characters and wish only the best for them. I ship Sabriel because both of them need family – not just a family by blood, not just a “it sort of happened” family, but a family that was chosen knowingly and on their own. I ship Sabriel because I believe that they could build a relationship which would make each of them feel better than when they were alone.

Both of them are painfully addicted to their families. Both of them have tried to run away from their families and concomitant responsibility. But both of them have found the strength to come back. I ship them because they understand each other well because of this.

Sam is very attached to his brother. Gabriel seems to me as the one who could accept it (in fact, already did in a “Mystery spot”) and not to make Sam choose between them. I ship Sabriel because their relationship could fit into the Winchesters’ life without severing the brotherly ties.

Gabriel openly spoke of liking for Dean. Dean openly spoke of understanding Gabriel. I ship Sabriel because Gabriel can become a part of the family.

Sam is a hunter who has lost a lot of people he loved. Gabriel is one of the few people who don’t need to be worried about all the time – at least, worrying too much, as he is himself a part of the supernatural world. I ship them because their relationship is possible in the Winchesters’ universe.

I ship them because of the way they looked at each other when they first met. I ship them for consistently keeping each other emotional. I ship them because they couldn’t stay indifferent to each other from the very beginning.

I saw how Gabriel tortured Sam in the “Mystery spot”. I saw how he stopped because Sam asked him to. I saw how much Sam’s attitude to Dean has changed after that. I ship Sabriel because they can influence each other.

I saw Gabriel leaving Sam because he thought it was right. I saw Sam leaving Gabriel because he thought it was right. I ship them because they still remain their true selves when interacting.

Gabriel is as much of a “deserter” as Sam is a “hero”. Gabriel is as much of an “egomaniac” as Sam is a “martyr”. I ship them because in a best-case scenario together they can balance each other and find a middle ground.

Sam spoke about his faith in angels in 2x13 – and Gabriel appeared in 2x15. Sam spoke about losing his faith is 13x11 – and Gabriel appeared in 13x13. I ship them because Sam deserves a better support of his faith than vain prayers. I ship them because Gabriel can justify this faith.

Sam is almost incapable of having a good rest and Gabriel, apparently, of working. I ship them because their joint activities could be much more productive than when they work alone.

Lucifer. Asmodeus. Not just a torture, but a degrading torture. I ship Sabriel because both of them understand what it’s like and can help each other cope.

Both Sam and Gabriel took serious approach to permanent relationships and respected their partners. They both value their families equally. I ship Sabriel because I think that without this there could be no deep connection and long-term relationship.

I think that Gabriel is a lecher more often in words than in deeds and it’s the same with Sam being a prude. I ship them because I believe in a match of their sexualities on practice.

Sam and Gabriel have different temperaments. But I ship them because that wouldn’t let them be bored with each other and because a high level of understanding wouldn’t let it become a problem and because they hardly could spend so much time together that they would start annoying each other. I ship them because their interaction could be interesting but wouldn’t exhaust them.

I ship them because they could get one dog for both of them.

I ship them because they, within their abilities, tried to protect each other.

I ship them because someone other than Dean could make Sam smile more.

I ship them because Sam can see (and already did that) something human behind Gabriel’s facade.

I ship them… Because of many more reasons. But there is one main thing.

I ship them because they belong together. Because I believe: they could love each other and could have their “happy ever after” for a relatively long time.

That’s why.

This post was originally written in Russian for my blog on the social network VK and translated by my friend.

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I need you

That`s what Dean said to Castiel in 8x17 and that’s what Sam said Gabriel in 13x18. 

These words helped Cas and Gabe to recover. Between many shippers it is well settled that instead of ‘I need you’ in both cases Sam and Dean should have said ‘I love you’. That these words would convey the meaning more accurately. And that it’s the only reason for these words to have such a strong effect on Castiel and Gabriel – what can wrest a wandering mind out of the dark if not love?

Earlier, when we were considering the Destiel case only, I used to agree, but after Sam’s words I viewed these scenes from a different angle.

‘I need you’ or ‘I love you’?

It seems to me that one thing is overlooked here. Namely, that in both cases these words were said by the Winchesters. The ones with their complicated history. And they said those words to these specific people. Well, not people actually – beings! For them, Supreme Beings – an angel and an archangel respectively.

It is in fact an important refinement.

Both Sam and Dean, despite their heroic history, sincerely believe that completely everything what’s happening is some kind of a terrible mistake. That they are unworthy of a heroic title. That they are too weak, and moreover guilty of most tragedies happened (hard even to argue with that), so it would be better if somebody else saved the world. Ideally, someone more powerful and mightier. They actually have repeatedly cried for the Supreme, in their understanding, beings to shift the responsibility of the world. In eleventh season brothers came to the God himself, but even he didn’t deem it necessary to relieve them of this unbearable burden. So they had to put up with that.

Nevertheless, brothers have kept the faith in Supreme Beings. Well, this faith is no longer about all angels and all gods. To the point of the latest seasons this faith is a piece-good.

Dean believes in one and only angel – Castiel, his friend, companion, brother, as you like. And apart from personal stuff, Dean still sees in Castiel something so pure and light that he considers it absolutely unreachable for himself.

In Sam’s case the faith was initially very strong. He has believed in angels and in God since childhood, he wasn’t as skeptical as Dean about this. And it makes being disappointed over and over again even more painful. But there was someone who did justify Sam’s faith. Yes, exactly, it was Gabriel. Sam managed to get trough him once and Sam most likely remembered him as a hero.

If brothers see that these beings fight with them and stand with them (or in Sam’s case – just remember that there was a certain archangel on their side), there’s still hope. But when they see that the ones in whom they believe, the ones in whom they see a better, a worthy, a strong element, betray themselves – Sam and Dean cannot bear it.

Dean said ‘I need you’ not in a ‘I need you to stop beating me and start kissing me’ way. He didn’t actually seem to care about himself that time. He was worried about Castiel and what was inside his heart and soul. He said it because he needed Castiel as he was – as a strong, true angel of a high moral who wouldn’t beat someone to blood. He needed Castiel because he needed to believe in something bigger that he is himself and because he simply could not see how his last pillar of faith is falling. After all, if Castiel cannot cope, how can a worthless and weak Dean do that?

In destiel case it’s easy to confuse recognition of the need with a love confession, because Dean needs Castiel not just as Castiel himself, but also as a source of his faith – of course, Dean as well means being together, dealing with their problems side by side, drinking beer in a bar and watching Scooby-Doo at the TV. Castiel is close to Dean in many ways.

It’s quite different with Sam. Gabriel and Sam don’t have such an affinity as Cas and Dean, that’s why it’s easier to separate the personal from the faith aspect. And it has always been easier for Sam to admit this need and it didn’t even take someone choking with blood. Sam in general has always been more honest with himself than Dean. But there’s one thing in common between them – he couldn’t bear seeing his ideal being broken. In his case the ‘I need you’ phrase seems nothing like ‘I love you’ and may be even absurd a bit: why do you need that archangel? He has just been brought to the bunker; from where does this need even come and why is that exactly your need? But his ‘I need you’ is excellently supplemented with the unspoken ‘I need to see you as you were, to see you strong. Because if you’re broken, I am even more so’.

So yeah, now I don’t think that ‘I need you’ is a Winchester way to say ‘I love you’. For brothers this need of a pillar of faith is strong and deep but it’s not the same as love. They have loved many people, but it’s these beings who they need to carry their burden. It is quite a selfish feeling – it stands far from the ideal of light, warm, selfless feeling of love and affection. Well, one does not interfere with one another. But in these scenes it’s not love on the first place.

By the way, on the other side, for Castiel and Gabriel, things are clearer and simpler. Though the fandom doesn’t really pay attention to this.

Both Castiel and Gabriel come to themselves because they understand what the brothers actually ask for and why. These words appeal to their conscience and reproach for their weakness. From their point of view everything is different: if The Winchesters © that they admire (Gabriel hides that well enough but it can be seen clearly on Cas) stoop to begging, things are really shitty. And pleading reach the goal – in this meaning Gabriel and Castiel got really stuck in love for the Winchesters because when they go down to begging so humanly, when they admit that they will not cope alone, neither of Gabriel and Castiel can remain indifferent. And overcome themselves for the boys.

And that’s what cannot be named otherwise but love – what is more, it’s deepest and purest kind. Sincere love makes people become better and overcome their flaws and weaknesses and that’s what we see in Gabriel and Castiel.

This post was originally written in Russian for my blog on the social network VK and translated by my friend.