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Caitlin & Julian | What About Us

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#Caitlin Snow #Julian Albert #Snowbert #caitlinsnowedit #julianalbertedit #snowbertedit #Videos #Mine #(look who finally finished this video... It's been months)

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someone: *mentions my favorite character*

me: *vibrating at frequency that shatters glass* yeah I love them a normal amount

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@fyeahsnowbert us with Julian

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Just a little bit..... 🤐🤐

#I miss my son so much

Tell us why Snowbert would be perfect for each other! What do you see as their main similarities and differences? I love your blog :)

This is obvioulsy going to be my personal opinion on Snowbert. Not everyone might agree with it.

First of all, they went through the same thing. Caitlin didn’t have control over her powers and over Killer Frost taking over, just like Julian didn’t have control over Savitar using him as Alchemy. They had someone they could talk to, who understood what it’s like to not be in control of what you do and say. I liked that they could share their feelings and fears about it with someone who knew what it was like.

Second, Caitlin helped him be less socially awkward and more open towards others. The whole “we need to work on your social skills”-thing was just great! Julian was definitely kept to himself at the beginning of season 3 (maybe a lot of it had to do with Alchemy). I mean, Barry and Julian had been working together for a year and, granted, they weren’t particularly fond of each other, but even then Barry didn’t really know that much about him (though this could be because of the whole Flashpoint thing and not remembering the year they worked together, but I still can’t see Julian opening up to Barry while they couldn’t stand each other). Caitlin invited him on the team and Julian finally had people to talk to and who cared about him (take that with a grain of salt, though, because they did force poor Julian into a lot of crappy situations).

What I also really liked, was that Julian wasn’t afraid to stand up to Caitlin during the whole Stone-story (when she kept part of the Stone without telling anyone). I truly believe Julian had every right to be mad at her for it. After all, by using that Stone, Savitar possessed Julian and made him do horrible things (to me, it’s implied that Julian killed the people on his team during his expedition to India and those CCPD officers. Imagine having to carry that around with you the rest of your life.). I feel like Julian was the only one who was mad at Caitlin for keeping it a secret...

But what I enjoyed the most about their relationship is the development! It’s an enemies to friends to (sort of) lovers scenario. Julian started out as someone who hated metahumans. Caitlin kidnapping him certainly didn’t help that. Going from there to respecting each other, helping each other deal with what they went through and eventually starting to develop feelings for each other, that’s just.... Amazing!! Enemies to friends to lovers is one of my favourite tropes so I was a sucker for Snowbert!

What I also really liked about their relationship is how happy Caitlin was with Julian around! I have to admit that I don’t remember much from season 1 and 2, but Caitlin just seemed to smile so much around Julian (just look at 3x9 when he showed up at the Christmas party, 3x10 when Julian and Cisco give her the necklace, 3x12 when they go out for drinks, 3x13 when they get dinner together, 3x15 when Julian arrives at STAR Labs and Caitlin is the one to initiate a hug, 3x18 when he bought her those opera tickets and after her surgery (it all went downhill after that ep...)).

As for main similarities: they’re both highly educated, both have a medical background (Caitlin a lot more than Julian obviously), they both have a not too great relationship with their parents, but the main thing is definitely that they went through the same thing.

For differences: Well, Julian is definitely more grumpy and blunt compared to Caitlin. He also has a lot of walls up (I don’t blame him) and seeing those walls get torn down, I really liked.

I think the most important things about their relationship were their similar story and the development they went through.

So yeah... I’m still mad we didn’t get more of them...

Thanks for the ask, Anon!!

#Replies #Anonymous

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So was Killerfrost in love with Julian too?

Or nah?

fyeahsnowbert

I kinda wanna share my opinion on this...

First of all, I don’t think Caitlin was in love with Julian to begin with. I believe that she was warming up to him and, if they had gotten more time which they deserved, she could have fallen in love with him and they could have had a great relationship.

That said, I do think that Caitlin did care a lot about Julian. She definitely liked him. I mean, she sought him out to begin with (to help get rid of her powers, sure, but still). She was the one to invite him to the West’s Christmas party, she invited him onto Team Flash so he didn’t have to go through the whole Alchemy crap on his own, she asked him to go for a drink,... She actually, in my opinion at least, started the possibility of a relationship.

Eventually, Julian was the one who made the first romantic move by kissing her (I don’t count their steak date as a romantic one, even though that scene was fluffy as hell). Julian made a lot of the more romatic moves in general, such as the kisses and the tickets to the opera but, in my opinion, Caitlin really liked it (mainly the fact that Julian bought them opera tickets and still wanted her to have them, even after their fight, and their scenes before, during and after Caitlin’s surgery in 3x18. She clearly trusted him and cared about him. Just go through their scenes and notice how many times Caitlin’s smiled with Julian around!! (especially in 3x13, aaarrgghhh!!))

But she didn’t love him (yet). Again, I really believe she could’ve if they’d gotten more time (maybe after Caitlin sorted out the whole Killer Frost stuff).

So did she love Julian as Killer Frost? No, because she didn’t love him as Caitlin. But she was still affected by the fact that Julian still cared about her and loved her (to be honest, I think Julian fell hard for her because he’d been on his own for a long time and she spent time with him, cared about him, helped him,... Did he really love her or did he think he did because he’d been so deprived of company? I don’t know. Maybe a combination of both? Though I like to believe that he genuinely loved her).

Julian’s confession of love clearly did something to Killer Frost. The look on her face is one of shock and you can’t tell me that if she weren’t affected, she’d make that face. Not to mention that once she left, Frost’s eyes changed back for a moment. So it definitely did something to her. Besides those moments at the elevator, they had their little stare during their scene with Cisco while working on a way to fix Barry’s amnesia. To me at least, there was a sort of sadness of Frost’s face when looking at Julian, as if she felt sorry for everything (I might look into it too much, but I don’t care).

So a long story short: she didn’t love Julian. Not as Caitlin Snow and not as Killer Frost.

Did she care about him? Yes, both as Caitlin and (in some way) as Frost.

It wasn’t love yet, but there was the possibility.

I’ve said it before: I’m really sad that the writers decided to get rid of Julian. I loved him as a character on his own and I adored his relationship with Caitlin. I truly believe that they deserved a happy ending (they both went through enough crap). That doesn’t mean that they needed to end up together immediately. Caitlin could have gotten her Killer Frost-storyline, time to figure herself out (if I’m being quite honest, I don’t think the writers are doing that good a job of it in season 4). They could’ve both gotten a storyline that didn’t revolve around the other (I would’ve loved to see Julian be a bus-meta!) and eventually be able to resolve their issues and get a fresh start.

So once again: lots of wasted potential there... Which I’ll probably be bitter about for a very long time.

#This got long #I'm sorry #Char Speaks #more like Char Rants #Killerbert

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Snowbert Aesthetic - 3x13

“I think we should find a local steakhouse and be terrified together”

#Aesthetics #3x13 #Mine #(Found this!)

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Snowbert Aesthetic - February 3, 2024 “I tried to find her something more humane, but… This is the best I could do…”

#I found this again #Aesthetics #3x19 #Mine

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ultra random personal thought/rant so dont mind me especially bc it has shit all to do with the latest episode but I miss Julian Albert. Im sorry snowbarry shippers but how can you all have seen Snowbert? Snowlian? and not swooned. Barry and Caitlin have shown no romantic chemistry once in the entirety if this show. Im not even saying that as a westallen fan but its also just an objective fact. Barry doesnt even bat an eyelash for her. You all took a couple of season 1 and 2 episodes when they laughed together and ran with it, aside more obvious reasons I wont even bother going into. But here you had Julian, and you could see all the love for her in his face every time he talked about her, and looked at her. Id especially take him back over gross asshole Ralph shitney anyday.

And on another note there’s no reason for them not to bring back Wally. its pissing me off how they’re treating him. Their excuse for sidelining him so heavily was because it’s difficult writing for two speedsters on one show, but thats no excuse for throwing all development into the trash. And barrys in jail so there’s no real reason at all not to bring him back. We want more Wally and Cisco action. More Kid flash solo missions. nobody fucking likes that shitty elongated man idk why they even introduced him to team flash what are these writers doing.

anyway i wanted to get this all out bc this is one of my favorite shows and i hate what the writers are doing. i dont even want to go into detail about that disastrous, shitshow of a trial. The only saving grace was the westallen scene in the midst of it and ugh i want to rant about the trial too but i wont. im not necessarily writing this for responses but just getting random thoughts out.

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Reblogging because the description of Snowbert is gorgeous!! 😭 (And because I miss Julian)

#reblog #text post

whenev's you get this you have to say five things you like about yourself, publicly. Then you have to send this to ten of your favourite followers ( non- negotiable, positivity is cool)

Ah crap, Brittany, this is so hard!!

Ok, five things about myself...

1) I know a lot of languages: Dutch, French, English, Spanish and German (the last two aren’t as good as the others because I use them less). Also, I studied Latin in secondary school but since that’s a dead language and all, it doesn’t really count (plus, it’s not as if I spend my time talking in Latin).

2) I have a pretty big imagination. I’d love to be a writer but I suck at creating own universes. So all the stories I imagine are AUs of different movies/shows but with OCs. I also mainly imagine the stories in my head because actually writing them down is uuuuuuuuughhhhhh...

3) I think I’m pretty good at making videos (not the best obv, but certainly not the worst).

4) I like that I have grey eyes (they have a little blue in them, but the greyness wins).

5) I’m pretty organised. I hate having my desk at home or at work (ESPECIALLY AT WORK) be a mess so I keep everything neat and tidy!

#About me #Replies #ithemetahumancrusader

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If you start watching The Flash 3x13 Attack on Gorilla City at 11:19:42 P.M. on New Year’s Eve, Julian will say “I think we should find a local steak house and be terrified together” to Caitlin right when the clock strikes midnight. Start off your new year sobbing over all the wasted potential.

theultimatea

Mate did you ACTUALLY fucking do this?!

fyeahsnowbert

LOL!! 😂😂 No, I didn't because it's "family time" and all but hey, it's always a good time to cry over Snowbert!