that clip was not tina's best moment but it wasn't just arky, she was falling into everyone's arms. it was embarrassing, yes, but i don't think that's indicative of their relationship status back then. the fact that foolish was even in that event was more telling than anything. in one of the vods when everyone was leaving, you could hear foolish calling out to her and of what she said about it after, he made sure to bring her straight home
i also kind of spiraled about this. we all have our own boundaries in a relationship, so i can only project my own experience, but i just could not imagine touching another guy like that. it was the type of touch specifically that made me confused, it didn't feel like a chummy, arm around a guy friend's shoulder commiserating about her performance; her hands like slid up his upper chest around his neck and then pressed herself to him, in a way i can only describe as more intimate than i would ever consider touching a male friend (note: hetero pov) while i'm in a relationship.
wish i could see a clip of it to see if i would still feel the same way viewing it today.
also, the only reason he was there was because she forgot something she needed at home and he brought it for her and stayed for the concert. when he ended stream he said he wasn't going to the concert so i genuinely don't think it was in his plans to go, not that him not going would have been indicative of anything. but similarly, i think his presence isn't very telling of anything because he went to take something to her.
hey, we all project here. but it meant nothing, she was literally rubbing her face on people she barely knew like nina, it was embarrassing but it wasn't more than a drunk girl being affectionate. his audience are the ones that blew it out of proportion and put meaning into a vulnerable girl who was clearly drunk.
we have to disagree, i think you're wrong, his presence means everything. this man lies after all. that was not his scene, he could care less about things like that, he only came for tina. he donated $500 dollars after her performance, took photos of her he never posted, was following her around when she was drunk.
i don't think it's advisable to apply typical relationship expectations and boundaries from a secret couple. like i hate the fact that foolish kisses men, that would be a deal breaker for me, but if it flies for tina then whatever.
