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Manon talking about Celaena (even obliquely) is what sways the Ironteeth to follow her, because of course.
Anti : *points out the issues with SJ/M’s books*
Stans :
AC*TAR? Is that you, bud?
Imagine liking something so blindly that you have to be rude and condescending to people who see the raging homophobia, racism, toxic masculinity, sexism, and heteronormativity because you refuse to acknowledge that it exists.
well and good:
loving sjm’s books
loving sjm’s books despite/in acknowledgement of their flaws
loving sjm’s books in your own fandom space
identifying with the characters in sjm’s books
requesting that antis stay out of fan tags if their post is tagged incorrectly
bad:
loving sjm’s books and refusing to acknowledge their flaws
attacking people who want to discuss said flaws
attacking people who have been hurt by the books with reductive, hollow arguments
expecting sjm’s representation to work well for everyone
invading spaces meant for critique of the books
reducing everyone who criticizes the books to “bullies” and “haters”
bad:
telling POC they shouldn’t be upset by cultural appropriation
telling any POC that one woman of color read the books and loved them and didn’t find them problematic and using that as evidence for why the books aren’t racist
telling LGBT+ people to be happy with the “representation” we have in the books when it’s either nonexistent, unimportant to the plot, evil, or dead
referring to the one bisexual character in ac0tar as a “slut”
recommending the books as something other than what they are (feminist, diverse, epic, well-written, etc etc)
conflating critique of a book with hate toward an author
Clickbait is starting SJM novels because they’re “diverse” and “feminist” but really getting racist, misogynist, homophobic, GOT and LOTR plagiarism, with a heavy side of fae porn.
Deadass, Sarah J Mass novels have become PWP (Porn without plot, plot what plot) fanfics.
“how women should treat people” yikes tell us how u really feel
“Sjm is so good at creating strong women”
Stans: Mess didn’t appropriate South Asian culture!! She just used it on White characters to appreciate it!!1!!
Me: *silent judging in Hindi*
The only good thing Rice has ever done was dying and he couldn’t even do that right
“But S/JM is trying REALLLYY hard to inlcude diversity and POC people—“
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
so many things on nesta’s wiki make me wanna scream. ofc her alleged aunt gets a name, but heaven forbid her parents do. and whyyy the fuuuuuuuuck is cassian listed under “romances”??? she hates him. vehemently. i mean we can all assume sj/m will shoehorn them together.
but hey, stans, piece of advice: just bc you ship it doesn’t mean it’s canon.
ALSO WHY IS TOMAS MANDRAY UNDER ROMANCES WHEN HE FUCKING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER I’M SCREAMING FQATRGDPHEGQIB3QTEGAGRADV
probably bc that’s romantic to her stans. they do ship ratalien and fey/sand after all.
I just really love Sorscha okay???? And d/orscha singlehandedly puts Ratelien to shame. *drops Mic*
S0rscha: risking her life by healing the crown prince and aiding underground rebellion against a tyrannical king
D0rian: combatting an ancient demon inside his body and trying not to get killed by his nasty ex girlfriend; planning on moving into a beach house
Alien: threatening to burn people and become an empress
R0wan: thinking about Alien’s ears
D0rscha: soft, pure, helping each other cope through hard times
Ratalien: making ass prints in sand on a random beach
Stans : *trying to explain how the T0/Gand AC0/TAR series aren’t problematic*
Me :
“haha i wonder if r.hys would break a lesbian’s bones or fetishise her :)”
(thank u @viragay for supplying me with this)
okay but let’s give it up for viviane, lady of the winter court who spent FIFTY YEARS DEFENDING THE ICE COURT. viviane DESERVES to be high lady. unlike feyre who only has a position of power because she was rhysand’s mate and he “loved” her.
What an icon. I’m still salty she didn’t become high lady.
It would have been cooler if Viviane had the honor of being the FIRST High Lady. Now, I’m bitter, more than I was before anyway.
You know it’s also told us that kallias loves Vivian very much and respects her. He loves her more than himself. It Dosent make sense that he dosent make her a high lady or even she Dosent ask to be high lady. It’s probably because Sjm wants only Farye to be the most specual. But in reality vivian would be the first high lady. Atleast for me she is.
That, and how the fandom mostly depicts her as the mere pretty lady in pretty dresses surrounded by winter aesthetics and in love with her husband instead of the bloody awesome warrior queen she is.
But, she demanded Kallias makes her high lady in ac0war, so I assume this actually happens? It’s just that, as usual, Mess forgot about her secondary characters and their achievements when they don’t serve to promote and praise her faves :( she also took the winter aesthetics away from Viviane and Kallias and threw them allover Failsand in ac0fas I can’t even
Anyway, I’m forever bitter that Mor x Viviane was never a thing or that Mor preferred to come out to Fayrug instead Viviane who had been her best friend for 500 years
oh yeah, the entire court system is set up in such a way that faerug can be The Best and Most Speshul fae to ever grace the earth as high lady. that’s likely why the court system is so sexist, too (and to prop up riceman), but i think that’s been discussed a lot.
I’m sorry what
~SJ/M stans please PLEASE stop giving this woman credit for representation when she has shown repeatedly that she couldn’t give less of a fuck about anyone who’s not white, cishet, or conventionally attractive~ challenge