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We are astonished by what we want to imitate… The sun is the hero that fights the darkness at night and rises anew in the morning. The sun is associated with consciousness and we have to imitate the hero. And we see what we have to imitate everywhere and it reduces us to a state of awe and awe is an invitation to imitate. Imagine: so, you see what you’re not yet, but what you could be. And you need to see that because you need to turn to what you could be, because what you are is not sufficient to redeem you.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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Look at sacrifice, that’s a great inward point. I ask my students, especially children of first generation immigrants: what did your parents sacrifice to put you here? And they can answer that instantly. And sacrifice, we look at ancient sacrifice and we think about it as something primordial or even detestable, especially in its more extreme forms and no wonder. But we had to act out sacrifice before we could psychologise it and understand it. What we learned—and this is absolutely crucial, this issue of sacrifice—what we learned was that if we gave up something that we valued in the present—and that could be a false idol, that’s one way of thinking about it—if we gave up something in the present that we valued, the future would improve. We learned that we could bargain with reality itself, by sacrificing counterproductive values to move ahead. And so we acted that out long before we could make it into a psychological truism. And so there is that supplication element, but it’s also the case you should be prostrate in some sense in front of what’s ultimately ideal because otherwise you don’t have the proper humility.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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You sacrifice your short term impulses for the long term good. I suppose that’s one way of thinking about the discovery of the future.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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Chronos devours his sons. Well chronos is the archetypal tyrant and he’s also time. And both time and the archetypal tyrant devour their own sons so if you’re a tyrannical father, or a tyrannical statesman, instead of encouraging the development of the young people in your charge, you crush them and destroy them…  In Egyptian mythology you see Horus, who’s the son fundamentally… And for the Egyptians Horus and Osiris had to rule simultaneously. So Horus didn’t castrate Osiris, he rescued him from the underworld and joined with him so that the tradition, which was represented by Osiris, which had a Chronos like element because it was tyrannical and destructive, had to be allied with Horus, who was essentially something like, I would say, empirical attention. Because the symbol is the eye. And so it was like alert tradition. And that’s different than the castration of the father. That’s the rescuing of the father from the underworld when he becomes corrupt and senile.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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The amount of the world’s evil that’s a consequence of our voluntary moral insufficiencies is in-determinant.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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The amount of the world’s evil that’s a consequence of our voluntary moral insufficiencies is in-determinant. You know, so you might say, hypothetically speaking, that as part of god’s creation we actually have important work to do. And if we shirk it the consequences are real. And you might say well that’s just an apology for god, perhaps that’s the case, and perhaps there’s no god at all and what the hell are we talking about, but I do think it’s an important issue.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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“You are face to face with God. Bone cancer in children, what's that about? How dare you? How dare you create a world where there is such misery, that's not our fault? It's utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious mean minded, stupid God who creates a world so full of injustice and pain... Because the god who created this universe, if it was created by god, is quite clearly an utter maniac.”

Ivan in The Brothers Karamazov, right? So what happens in The Brothers Karamazov is that Ivan wins the argument. But Alyosha is the better person. So it's very interesting - *interrupted by Stephen Fry*

Let's take the argument you made there. There's a direction that goes in that's nihilistic and resentful and vengeful and angry and all understandable. But it doesn't look to me like there's anything good in it, it looks like it's entirely counterproductive. It makes the problem it purports to have been generated by worse. So then the question is, what's the appropriate attitude, given that the argument you make is actually an extraordinarily powerful argument? And I don't know the answer to that but I do know, I think, that resentment and anger—and even the motive that would make you want to say that to god himself—I think that's probably not helpful, even though it's so- *Stephen laughs*

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I came to that with great difficulty. I mean I've had my reasons to be resentful and angry, especially recently. Because I'm suffering a lot of pain and it makes me resentful and angry and wanting to shake my fist. But I found upon intense consideration that there was nothing in that that didn't make it worse and that therefore that must be wrong. Even though it's justifiable, right?

The amount of the world's evil that's a consequence of our voluntary moral insufficiencies is in-determinant. You know, so you might say, hypothetically speaking, that as part of god's creation we actually have important work to do. And if we shirk it the consequences are real. And you might say well that's just an apology for god, perhaps that's the case, and perhaps there's no god at all and what the hell are we talking about, but I do think it's an important issue. —Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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You cannot create your own values. The values impose themselves on you independent of your will. Well that's what your conscience does and good luck trying to control it.

Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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So Piaget looked specifically at the development of morality and he was one of the first people to emphasize the importance of games. And what he showed was that at two years old, let's say, a child can only play a game with him or herself. But at three, both children can identify an aim and then share it in a fictional world, (and so that's partly pretend play and the beginnings of drama) and then co-operate and compete within that domain. And then, what happens—and the game theorists have shown this—is that out of games reality emerges. So I'll give you an example and this is a crucial example. If you pair juvenile rats together, the males, they have to play, they have to rough and tumble play because their prefrontal cortexes don't develop properly if they don't. Anyways they have to play. You pair a big rat and a little rat, teenage rats, together and the big rat will stomp the little rat. First encounter. So then you say power determines hierarchy. Okay but then you pair the rats multiple times, like fifty. Then if the big rat doesn't let the little rat win 30% of the time, the little rat will stop inviting him to play. So you get an emergent reciprocity even at the level of the rat. —Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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So then you ask yourself, and this is a dead serious question: So imagine that people are exploring their moral domain, whose reality is blatantly obvious but difficult to formalise let's say. We're exploring the nature of the moral realm, tentatively, and we develop more powerful and more integrated theories as we progress. You end up with a unified god, so it's a monotheism, there's a god within. Then the question is: Well what exactly is that god within? Does it correspond to something that's real, or is it just a figure of the imagination? But then you say well if it's just a figure of the imagination, what exactly is the imagination?

I think partly, Christianity insists that this integrated god figure, also had a real existence. That's how Christianity tries to solve this particular problem. And people like C.C Lewis and Jung to some degree as well, would say well, once in history, someone acted out that unified god so completely, that something happened. That's the proposition. Okay well that's the limit of the proposition, and then the question is: How real is this moral striving? It's real enough so you torture yourself when you don't engage in it properly. It's real enough so you can't avoid its call. It's real enough so that you can make moral errors that are so severe that you can doubt the validity of your own existence. It's real enough for that.

This is an honest question, it's like... I certainly see how much good is done when people are good and how much evil is done when they're evil.  —Jordan Peterson, An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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SF: If my motive is to make money and I make a great discovery, it's as valuable as if my motive was to make a great discovery and I made a great discovery. The great discovery is made; how is the motive relevant?

JP: Well because your motives determine the decisions you make along the way. If I'm fundamentally motivated by the belief that Being is worth preserving, let's say, because on the whole it's good, I'm going to react and think much differently than if I'm ambivalent about that or if I feel at the bottom of my soul that the whole bloody project is of questionable utility and might as well be shelved. And that dichotomy, that characterises us, you know we have Cain and Abel inhabiting us, there's no doubt about that. That's a fundamental truth, and if Cain has the upper hand, even if it's in the scientific endeavour, the consequences of that manifest themselves and they manifest themselves destructively. —An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson Podcast - S4 E22

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“I'm not saying things that other people want me to say, it's like up yours.” Jordan Peterson & Heather Heying: Identity, Religion, Death

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You’re no longer active it seems, but I’d like to thank you for doing such a good job collecting Prof. Peterson’s quotes! It’s much appreciated!

I'm still here! Thank you for your lovely message. It makes it even more worth it that it's useful! I have one of those personality types that genuinely enjoys transcribing. I've just had stuff going on and haven't had a chance recently cuz it takes a while. I run other blogs too. I'm hoping to post more soon though :D I've had a few suggestions too for quotes. 

Sometimes I wonder if Jordan has a secret tumblr?! Who knows! Hehe 🤣💘

edit: Thank you so much too, @jeff-drake