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//rebooting w new lore just give me a while to cook, maybea few days idk also thinking about changing the blog name to fit better with the silly au-ification
Is this the internet? Hi internet!! I took Dalv's phone I hope he don't mind :]
//currently cooking. Clover will have their own account again sometime but them stealing Dalv's phone was too funny to me lmao
//revival of this account is absolutely cooking btw. stg I'm attatched to this version of clover being crafted almost more than canon clover AND I KIN CANON CLOVER
Clover as well as frisk/chara will be asexual/they/them? (sorry for my bad english)
Clover is referred to with they/them throughout the game. But the specifics of their gender is left to personal interpretation.
gender and pronouns are separate things, just as gender and biological sex are. please fellas leave me alone skull emoji
omfg I swear this is the last post I'm making on this. I'm so tired of it going over screenshots sent in the discord in order so it might be off, sorry. I don't HATE anybody, im uncomfortable with people and thus don't want to interact. In fact I was one of the last people in the discord server to voice my concerns. It's not something to be 'fixed', it's simply a boundary. All I'm asking is not to interact, if you don't want drama change or just abide by our requests to not interact?? We aren't like banning you from roleplay or anything that'd be stupid. Just make your own space if you aren't going to change, please. Also. I've never told anybody specifically to avoid any of the blogs. This was a decision most of you collectively agreed on, this blog is just being focused on fsr so that's where we're directing the posts. 1// Queer erasure is essentially intentionally or unintentionally removing a character or person's queerness. This is a bad thing to do for tons of reasons which you can research on your own time. This post will be long enough already. They/them Clover IS strictly canon, as a quote DIRECTLY from the developers says. Please get your facts in order. The issue isn't that Clover's gender is being changed, it's that their pronouns are being changed from more genderqueer pronouns, to more cisgender pronouns. Regardless of if this is intentionally or not, this IS queer erasure, and makes a lot of people extremely uncomfortable. 2// Try not to think about yourself that way, it comes off as guilt-trippy to people. And I was trying to go over each of your points to debunk, it was just a short quip. Sorry. 3//"it's just the internet" is a bad way to excuse your behavior. Don't. 4//Aging up characters in order to ship them in a less controversial way is almost universally a REALLY gross thing to do for so many reasons. There are a ton of videos that dive really deep into this topic, highly recommend. No NSFW should already be a given. 5//I didn't say choose another ship, I said another character. Yaknow. An adult. Also yes PLEASE stop interacting with underblog. We are not attacking anybody, we've only been responding to when you guys come to us. Genuinely we just don't want to interact. We have never EVER wished death on anybody. Seriously if anybody has I'm EXTREMELY sorry about that, if anybody has please let us know that's literally the worst thing somebody could do. In the discord KYS JOKES are even banned. I don't hate you, I don't think any of us underblog folks really do. We just are genuinely really uncomfortable and don't want to interact but this keeps escalating. I assume it's because you guys are young but honestly, please genuinely grow up. I don't believe any of this was intentional but the way it was handled was extremely poor. I genuinely hope you guys realize with time because I know I was absolutely like this when I was younger. It's not an attempt to flame any of you, I've never tried to flame any of you, only responded in ways I wish I'd gotten responded to when I was like this. I don't think any of us on either side are bad people, I think reactions were just handled badly. You can make your own roleplay space, honestly we really just don't like interacting with you guys. It's extremely draining. Please stop. And this is NOT just from me. I review these messages with the rest of underblog before posting. We're all just really fucking tired. Speaking of any of you (underblog) are more than free to add on your own thoughts below just keep it respectful.
I am not responding to this any more unless like anybody comes forward with proof of underblog people wishing death (seriously) on anybody PLEASE leave me alone.
omfg I swear this is the last post I'm making on this. I'm so tired of it going over screenshots sent in the discord in order so it might be off, sorry. I don't HATE anybody, im uncomfortable with people and thus don't want to interact. In fact I was one of the last people in the discord server to voice my concerns. It's not something to be 'fixed', it's simply a boundary. All I'm asking is not to interact, if you don't want drama change or just abide by our requests to not interact?? We aren't like banning you from roleplay or anything that'd be stupid. Just make your own space if you aren't going to change, please. Also. I've never told anybody specifically to avoid any of the blogs. This was a decision most of you collectively agreed on, this blog is just being focused on fsr so that's where we're directing the posts. 1// Queer erasure is essentially intentionally or unintentionally removing a character or person's queerness. This is a bad thing to do for tons of reasons which you can research on your own time. This post will be long enough already. They/them Clover IS strictly canon, as a quote DIRECTLY from the developers says. Please get your facts in order. The issue isn't that Clover's gender is being changed, it's that their pronouns are being changed from more genderqueer pronouns, to more cisgender pronouns. Regardless of if this is intentionally or not, this IS queer erasure, and makes a lot of people extremely uncomfortable. 2// Try not to think about yourself that way, it comes off as guilt-trippy to people. And I was trying to go over each of your points to debunk, it was just a short quip. Sorry. 3//"it's just the internet" is a bad way to excuse your behavior. Don't. 4//Aging up characters in order to ship them in a less controversial way is almost universally a REALLY gross thing to do for so many reasons. There are a ton of videos that dive really deep into this topic, highly recommend. No NSFW should already be a given. 5//I didn't say choose another ship, I said another character. Yaknow. An adult. Also yes PLEASE stop interacting with underblog. We are not attacking anybody, we've only been responding to when you guys come to us. Genuinely we just don't want to interact. We have never EVER wished death on anybody. Seriously if anybody has I'm EXTREMELY sorry about that, if anybody has please let us know that's literally the worst thing somebody could do. In the discord KYS JOKES are even banned. I don't hate you, I don't think any of us underblog folks really do. We just are genuinely really uncomfortable and don't want to interact but this keeps escalating. I assume it's because you guys are young but honestly, please genuinely grow up. I don't believe any of this was intentional but the way it was handled was extremely poor. I genuinely hope you guys realize with time because I know I was absolutely like this when I was younger. It's not an attempt to flame any of you, I've never tried to flame any of you, only responded in ways I wish I'd gotten responded to when I was like this. I don't think any of us on either side are bad people, I think reactions were just handled badly. You can make your own roleplay space, honestly we really just don't like interacting with you guys. It's extremely draining. Please stop. And this is NOT just from me. I review these messages with the rest of underblog before posting. We're all just really fucking tired. Speaking of any of you (underblog) are more than free to add on your own thoughts below just keep it respectful.
Hmmm you need a better gun.
(You have gained a shotgun)
//sorry this account's on haitus until I'm ready to reboot it!! just had to respond to drama rah pls feel free to come back later tho disoriented child with a shotgun would be so funny
good job clover
//yea I spent way too much time writing that so thank you LMAOO I just want them to leave me alone fr
I sent him your reasons why you disliked him and here’s the reply
(me cuasing chaos lol)
//frankly I do not like you either for interacting with them and trying to perpetuate this. but ill debunk these as well since a lot of underblog shares my opinions on it. //1: For the first part, I already awnsered why its kinda weird to have a take like this here V
Secondly, I too am more comfortable roleplaying guys, as a trans guy myself. But it's much more fun to mess around with using other pronouns and gives genuinely good practice for using other people's pronouns correctly. For example, my it/it's character. On top of that, clover is stated to have a GENDER that is up to interpretation, while their pronouns ARE they/them. Frankly changing it feels like queer erasure. //2. You have annoyed us all for weeks on end now. If you're annoyed that people are uncomfortable with you for good reasons, I think that says more about you than it does us. //3. That is still shipping. /4. I already said this was a personal thing, being uncomfortable with -18 ships. This is not part of the argument. It is a personal thing I dislike. The issue is these are not teens, they are PREPUBESCENT CHILDREN. There is no reason to think about them being romantically involved. If you want to roleplay ships, you could have chosen another character that is not a child. //now outer I'd love if you could stop interacting with me as well. I have you both blocked, I don't know why you can. Please don't bother the rest of underblog either. We're fucking tired of this shit //edit: since somebody else pointed this out, also maybe don't treat this like a joke? People are actually really uncomfortable with this.
deputyclover is now from a different universe than the one your Clover is from and is mostly interacting
//frankly I'd rather not hear about any of them
//if it's info you're looking for? The issue w this clover is, just like one of deputy clover's, the misgendering. While I get AU stuff as a genderqueer person I get EXTREMELY uncomfortable when part of an AU is just changing a character's pronouns, especially from ones percieved as queer to 'normal' pronouns (despite me being he/him). //edit: actually yea no there's the shipping too. It might be a personal thing but generally my brain disapproves of shipping -18 in general, literal children much moreso. mostly personal but feels icky to me
Another… me, huh?
You… still have your… soul. Happy for you.
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*Clover wonders if the same might've happened to them if things were different... *Disturbing!
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they're probably after me but it's fine. I need to be here.
how do I work this site.
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