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JO MARTIN CONFIRMS THAT THE FUGITIVE DOCTOR IS PRE-HARTNELL

Ever since the Fugitive Doctor was introduced in Series 12, her placement in the Doctor’s timeline has been a source of debate within the fandom because the reveal of a hidden incarnation of the Doctor happens in the same series it’s revealed that the Doctor has hidden incarnations before Hartnell, yet some fans argue that the Fugitive Doctor can’t be before him because her TARDIS was disguised as a Police Box, which happened with Hartnell’s Doctor when he and Susan came to Earth and landed in 60s London. And so some theorised and believe that the Fugitive Doctor is a hidden incarnation between the Second and Third Doctor because we never saw the regeneration, and like the Second Doctor, the Fugitive Doctor was working for the Time Lords. But after years of debate, the answer has been given by the Fugitive Doctor herself, Jo Martin…

Who Corner to Corner Podcast

“And I think it was like, literally 24 hours later, I got the call saying, oh, the job's yours. So I was like, oh, great, great. And they said, but do you know who you're playing? And I'm like, yeah, the tour guide. And then it was, no, you're going to be the incarnation of the doctor. You're going to be the first doctor in the canon.”

Doctor Who Magazine (Issue 613)

“Quite a few want to know - where in the canon do I come? They'll come and ask me on train journeys. I'm like, 'Listen, you'll have to ask Mr Chibnall, because I didn't write this. All I know is that, when I took the job and they were trying to explain my Doctor to me, I was told how it was going to work - that I was the first Doctor.”

Whooverville Panel (2025)

“But I was told that she was, where they've put her, she's the first doctor.”

I don’t think it’s as literal as, she’s the First Doctor like we think of, it’s just an uncomplicated way of saying that the Fugitive Doctor is before Hartnell’s Doctor, and that she’s the first Doctor we’ve met before Hartnell, unlike fleeting glimpses such as the Mind-Bend Doctors in The Brain of Morbius and the Children in The Timeless Children.

So the Fugitive Doctor is Pre-Hartnell, but how can her TARDIS have been disguised as a Police Box then?

The TARDIS is a sentient Time Machine who can archive console rooms from the Doctor’s future as she said herself in The Doctor’s Wife, and so if the TARDIS that Hartnell’s Doctor stole from the repair shop was actually their former Division-TARDIS, then when she was being used by the Pre-Hartnell Doctors, the TARDIS could have seen that in the future she becomes stuck as a Police Box. I think that when the Fugitive Doctor and Lee went on the run from Division and needed to hide, the TARDIS deliberately brought them to Earth so that the 13th Doctor could meet her past forgotten self and so that she would recognise her own TARDIS, it took on the form of a Police Box when it landed at a Welsh Lighthouse in December, 1999. After Fugitive of the Judoon, the TARDIS drops the Police Box, and the Fugitive Doctor keeps on running, pushing the TARDIS right to its limits to evade Division, which wears the machine out and causes the chameleon circuit to degrade. When the Fugitive Doctor is recaptured by Division, the TARDIS escapes and goes to the repair shop to wait for the First Doctor.

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Why the Fugitive Doctor isn’t 6B

As the Fugitive Doctor’s TARDIS is in the shape of a Police Box, uses the title Doctor, and works for the Time Lords, some people think that she’s in-an incarnation between the Second and Third Doctor because of the Season 6B theory. Which is that the Second Doctor had adventures after The War Games working for the Time Lords as we saw in The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors, and that Fugitive fits as a hidden incarnation after the Second Doctor and before the Third Doctor.

But there’s an issue with this idea that means the Fugitive Doctor isn’t 6B.

In Fugitive of the Judoon, when Time Lord and Division-operative Commander Gat confronts Lee who’d gone on the run with the Fugitive Doctor and hid on Earth, she says to Lee that she couldn’t find him and the Fugitive Doctor because they hid on a backwater planet in a random part of a random galaxy…

But the Time Lords would know of the Doctor’s interest and history with Earth if she were after the Second Doctor, because of his trial in The War Games. Yet Commander Gat, tasked with finding and returning the Fugitive Doctor to Division, did not speak of Earth as if the Doctor or Time Lords had history with it, and actually compliments Lee and by extension the Fugitive Doctor, for hiding on such a random unheard of planet.

The fact that the Fugitive Doctor’s TARDIS was in the shape of a Police Box when she met the 13th Doctor says it all, that the TARDIS took on her future Police Box shape from An Unearthly Child for the 13th Doctor, as that shape is how she would identify her TARDIS. Meaning the TARDIS the First Doctor stole from the repair shop was actually his TARDIS from before his mind-wipe, which makes a lot of sense because the Fugitive Doctor’s non-stop running across time and space to escape Division, would’ve worn the TARDIS out.

The Fugitive Doctor using the title Doctor isn’t an issue as it doesn’t just mean a healer or physician, it can also mean a scientist or a doctorate of a subject. And so when the First Doctor chose the title Doctor as his Time Lord title, it meant healer and physician, but when the Fugitive Doctor and possibly her previous selves were using the title Doctor, it meant scientist or doctorate of science and/or engineering.

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Also to add to this Fugitive's TARDIS is explained in one of her audios, the audios are said to take place before the events of Fugitive of the Judoon so it can't be because of 13 but it is given an explanation

Basically it's in the story 'the legend of Baba Yaga' which is a story about legends and myths

here's the dialogue of Fugitive:

"The (TARDIS) hit a vast psychic storm. There's a minor malfunction and on landing it does what all TARDISes do - it, it tries to blend in. But the Telepathic Circuits are overwhelmed by belief in a local legend and it tries to conform. They all do it. Mine keeps latching on to the image of a Police Box. No idea why."

The TARDIS picks the image of the police box, based on the legend of The Doctor in The Police Box.

There's also the fact that we've now seen the regeneration of 2 into 3 in the War Games colour version so Fugitive cannot be between them and is Pre-Hartnell.

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Tecteun survived (Bi-generation theory)

I haven't seen this theory anyway else but I think it makes some sense:

So Tecteun supposedly is killed by Swarm at the end of "Survivers of the Flux" after her confrontation with The Doctor I believe that before this Tecteun had already Bi-generated and this Bi-generated incarnation is already in "universe 2"

Okay so we still don't quite know how Bi-generation fully works in "the giggle" it seems 15 is in 14's future and has been sent back however in the episode "the devil's chord" 15 says his soul was torn in half which implies an actual split? Only the future theory works for this so I'm gonna go by that for this theory.

Firstly how much does Tecteun know about Bi-generation? We know it's a Time Lord myth but has anyone else experienced it we know it can't happen too often to Time Lords as it wouldn't have been a myth if it did but has Tecteun Bi-generated before during the dark times maybe? So she could know how to trigger one or she hadn't figured it out for a long time but did during flux? I guess it is possible it could have just happened without planning but I feel like she used the Flux and released Swarm to trigger her Bi-generation

We know she released Swarm to damage time by releasing the Mouri she even says this was intended, so I think she figured out with both the damage from the Flux and Swarm letting time run wild she can trigger her own Bi-generation so this most likely happens during episode 3 of Flux "once, upon time" when Swarm gets rid of the Mouri making time go wild so I think while the Doctor was in the time storm Tecteun Bi-generated

Tecteun 1 = "Awsok" Tecteun

Tecteun 2 = Future Tecteun (in universe 2)

So Tecteun 1 triggers her Bi-generation into Tecteun 2, Tecteun 2 already knows the fate of Tecteun 1 at the hands of Swarm, Tecteun 2 explains as much as they can to Tecteun 1 (just like 15 did to 14) maybe getting Tecteun 1 to have the conversation with the Doctor at the end of the "once, upon time" episode and bringing her to Division HQ in "Survivors of the Flux" or Tecteun 1 could just do this without information from Tecteun 2, Tecteun 2 goes into universe 2 while Tecteun 1 talks to The Doctor at the end of "once, upon time" about how this universe is over and she released Swarm etc

Then the events of "Survivors of the Flux" happen with the Doctor and Tecteun 1 having their confrontation and then Swarm touches Tecteun and she disappears now this is a big theory of what most people think will happen to 14 is that when he is on the verge of death he will fade and appear back at UNIT as 15 so this is what I believe happens to Tecteun

Tecteun 1 disappears and goes back to the point of the Bi-generation becomes Tecteun 2 and leaves for universe 2.