Filing An Emotional Distress Claim Against Earl Carpenter's Phantom for:
How softly he whispers "sing" during the title song.
Nearly putting his arms around Katie Knight Adams while singing "soooarrr" during MOTN but chickening out.
The emphasis he puts on "lead me save me from ~my solitude~"
Hands (see items 5-9):
Directing Christine (and honestly the music) during the title song like he's literally pulling the melody/sex out of her.
Doing that wrist twist thing during the cape twirl and MOTN.
Doing all the things during PONR.
Always holding Christine's head/hair during the kiss and sometimes even putting his hand on her cheek. [Melts.]
Reaching for Christine when she returns because he thinks she's coming back for him only to try to refuse the ring when she gives it back.
Falling to his knees during the ring return and offering the ring to her AGAIN?!?! This is very intentional infliction of emotional distress wtf!!
Going all the way to the floor like a baby during the whole "go now and leave me" sequence.
Reaching through the damn portcullis with the damn veil in hand while singing "you alone can make my song take flight."
The fact that he came back to the West End for a limited run in 2023 and destroyed us all over again.
And then ended that 2023 limited run with the ultimate sad wet cat "noooo" after the ring return in the final lair. Who let this happen?!?
So honestly this is a respondeat superior case bc the producers of POTO allowed Earl Carpenter to victimize us all in the 2000s and then brought him back aged like fine wine just to find devastating new ways of milking our tear ducts all over again.
This has to be actionable. My lawyers will be in touch.
Stream Notes: Hey gurl wanna sex jeggings and chill?
Saturday, June 27th, 2026 (link to Deb's post)
World Tour (2024): Harry Mills, Grace Roberts, Matt Leisy
This post is inspired by and written for @greenstripedcat who usually does the stream notes but couldn't make it tonight.
Pre-Stream POTO Animatic: Link
Notes on the Show:
@GlassPrism: Also just to let everyone know, this was filmed VERY early in the World Tour run and as Harry Mills is an understudy, he has even less opportunity to go on, so you know, just bear that in mind @GlassPrism: And by early I mean the first month of the World Tour
Ian Jon Bourg is playing Andre
Making Sure SWM is Not Present:
@beyond-this-illusion: All stream guests have to complete a captcha to prove they're not SWM
@FreakofNature: I am not SWM (<--- chat determined that this was very sus)
@Bway-Ghost: Statistically one of us has to be SWM
WIFE
@lonlranching: m’lady
@wismoth: COLOURFUL WIFE HAPPY PRIDE
@motelpearl: aww last stream of pride month….will love win….. @paper-faces: no motel probably not!
Il Muto, Think of Me, Dressing Room
Noted by @glassprism (and a few others): Thabiso Masemene is probably the longest running Piangi!
Picture from July 11th, 2013
@carlottadefender: what a lovely singer, I sure hope nothing bad happens to her @carlottadefender: I'm so sorry signora I spoke it into existence
@Rose-Margaritas: Love that they say local places that they’re touring in @Rose-Margaritas: Okay so I looked the place up based on what I heard, and apparently it’s a beach! Dameisha beach :> @Rose-Margaritas: It’s a beach in Shenzhen
@eaggesalat: europe is not real @eaggesalat: but what do i know im just an egg
@64feet: this giry has the creepiest intonation ever
@warpweight: MAX SAYS THEY SAY HI. raising awareness (HI MAX! @tangerinegem)
"Bravi"
(Sorry for the squished image, I had to squish a lot on my screen LOL)
@lonlranching: hate when im flirting with my girl and her man whispering in her ear…
@litloverscorsetlaces: Every week I think I may finally be normal again and then I hear "bravi" and it goes down the drain @funeral_lilies: there's no way to be normal with this @from-aldebaran: Ari Normal is not worth it @paper-faces: ari down the drain you say?
On Raoul
@lonlranching: what the hell welcome back steve barton
@wismoth: raoul sounded so SLEAZY
@jennyfair7: noo matt leisy is babey!
@funeral_lilies: get a job leave her alone
@dimmedghosts: this roaul and rik should kiss
@faceofbeast: this guy is giving Barton but it's in the lake. must be his diction, and his di-
Mirror, Title Song
MANY positive comments about Harry's voice
@warpweight: oh my god he sounds SOOO like the bad boy in a boy band. and i'm buying the CDs
@Gummie: that crotch shot
@funeral_lilies: the crotch shot
@warpweight: HE SOUNDS SO SWOOPING AND SMOOTH AND DIVA
@GlassPrism: It sounds like we're hearing it from the lake
MOTN
@lonlranching: putting him in the freezer
@GlassPrism: Nice body rub
@nerdywriter36: he is very leg
@CowboyJ: i am in physical pain rn omg his voice
@Rose-Margaritas: Genuine painted on pants
@dimmedghosts: SLUT
@PhantoonsOfTheOpera: "Hi-Def Harry", "Finger-Me Phantom." all the nicknames are coming out tonight.
@paper-faces: IM GONNA BE SICK
@from-aldebaran: I think I will just replay this whole song at the end of the show @from-aldebaran: Because "Sex Jeggings" caused me to momentarily leave this plane of existence (<-- I'm so sorry, I didn't catch who initially said sex jeggings.)
@jennyfair7: grace move so i can see my girl
@wismoth: OBLIGATORY ISNT HE SEXY
I Remember, STYDI
@funeral_lilies: cant take that british anger seriously what you gonna do. have tea about it
Audience member goes "Oh!" when he starts yelling
@faceofbeast: HIT THE DECK
@daaesviolin: love a man who SPLATS
@kyannnite: WHNE AND SOB AND SHED TEARS AND SQUIRM!!!
@motelpearl: HOP ON THE DECK AND FLOP LIKE A FISH
@litloverscorsetlaces: They gotta stop saying "come" like that
@lonlranching: barb telling rik later you totally recovered from that well dont even worryyyyyy girl
@Zhenyus: Fridge down
@from-aldebaran: Celina… @glassprism: Deb……………………
Notes, Prima Donna
(on Harry's line reads) @motelpearl: hes very much giving hugh panaro here
@opera-ghost: girl who only thinks about hugh panaro: getting a lot of hugh panaro vibes from this
@carlottadefender: it's so awesome being a carlotta fan because it seems very rare you get the role if you can't slay so you're always in for a fun time
Ramin Karimloo Side Quest
@from-aldebaran: Wishing Ramin the very best because many many people who are in the fandom and who are streams attendees are big fans, and also the showing of his performance online during Covid brought so many people into the fandom @from-aldebaran: or back into the fandom @from-aldebaran: And I am very grateful for that
@opera-ghost: the deblomat @opera-ghost: debplomacy
@GlassPrism: This is how Deb admits she's secretly a Ramin fan
@from-aldebaran: I have actually never seen the Ramin Royal Albert Hall show!
@lonlranching: i like ramin but it’s like…. wanting to go out to rik dinner but you have ramin rik at home
@motelpearl: true i got back into phantom during the pandemic (all that talk about wearing masks and isolating oneself yknow) and had never heard of the 25th before then so ill always have a soft spot for the 25th bc it brought me back into the fandom
@kyannnite: i got back into phantom because of 25th anniv RAH (stuck inside due to ice storm for a week and ended up watching it like 20 times)… so i will always have a soft spot lol
@GlassPrism: I am fine with Ramin as the Phantom and I totally get his popularity, but I am miffed that he'll be coming in solely for one stop and booting the current principal Phantom into the alternate spot
YURI
@carlottadefender: everyone lock in for yuri
@funeral_lilies: i want the high femme lesbian scissor bed
@carlottadefender: weak ass herrr
@LeeringSatyrs: Carlotta isn't letting that baritone flex more than her
@warpweight: she coop on my er til i grode in @warpweight: [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST]
@wismoth: I love how technicolored the bed looks today
@daaesviolin: pride il muto bed and wife
@funeral_lilies: they trying to forcefem my girl christine
(\o/ the ballet) @motelpearl: bring the shreksaphone…..NOW!
@daaesviolin: c cause he got cooped
AIAOY, Reprise
@lonlranching: rik back there like…. what if i jump….. jkjkjkj….. unless…
@beyond-this-illusion: They've got a heavenly glow about them from the phone boot quality and I love it
@from-aldebaran: Phantom hiding gives new meaning to "being roofied"
@GlassPrism: I know actors in the floating angel will do stuff to while away the time @paper-faces: ryan vona would be tweeting in the angel right now @eaggesalat: like joj texting @dimmedghosts: jrox would be making ai art @PhantoonsOfTheOpera: Crivello watching a Pater Karrie boot @beyond-this-illusion: ryan vona would be felting his little frogs @kyannnite: what phantom is buying bitcoin in the angel @wheel-of-fish: @ kaya thiago
@opera-ghost: who needs childhood friends to lovers when you have scary basement dweller who kidnaps people
@wismoth: OH no he's saaad :( WHINE AND WAIL MORE
@kyannnite: SOPPING WET AND SHIVERING IN A CARDBOARD BOX ON THE STREET
@britishchick09: voice catch! :'( (<-- he had SO many of these that he used TACTFULLY against us)
@haunted-hideaway: He is a sad ugly fellow.
@Zhenyus: harry mills you are exquisite
(On Deb's generous rewinds) @jennyfair7: YAY let's watch him suffer again
@paper_faces: hes holding the angel like hes in a spin class
@funeral_lilies: he's going through the seven stages of grief @funeral_lilies: 6 7 (<-- damn you curse you etc.)
@Bway-Ghost: is there a greg mills boot like the stollebot or do i have to get to work @Bway-Ghost: sighhh redownloads imovie
Intermission
THANK YOU SO MUCH MORGAN FOR THIS HARRY MILLS/MOLLY WARD REEL COMPILATION: (Shit I can't find the link)(But trust me it was GLORIOUS)(as is everything Morgan does)
WELL HERE's ANOTHER (LINK) TO MORGAN'S POST, which is where I pulled the below gif from:
@opera-ghost: this phantom guy seems like a really nice and upstanding individual @opera-ghost: he would never kill someone and drop their body in front of a live audience
@paper-faces: this is all canon btw
Masquerade
@opera-ghost: let's all make each other worse @wismoth: Morgan is that not what this chat is for @litloverscorsetlaces: You all bring out the worst in me (/pos) (<--she's either saying "positive" or "piece of shit")
DEB FANFICTION LINK DROP: @from-aldebaran: Electric, because I can (link)
@wismoth: communism . our mom now
@funeral_lilies: monkë……my dream role
@LeeringSatyrs: It's hard to tell because of picture quality, but from here the Star Princess dress looks nicer than the NA Tour dress
@bway-ghost: not to self promote but would anyone want to see my star princess cosplay I made…. (chat says yes, of course!) (LINK)
@litloverscorsetlaces: Two pixels in a codpiece on deck
@Gummie: the peacock
(On Madame Giry) @from-aldebaran: She is having staff envy
@opera-ghost: she fr said come along come along and follow me take a peak at the freak @opera-ghost: just had a 15 minute long flashback sequence
A Couple of Side Quests
@dimmedghosts: she cod on my piece till i don juan triumph @kyannnite: she don on my juan till i cod in my piece @wismoth: she shame on my capsule til I red death @motelpearl: she turn my scorpion till i hop jolly high @motelpearl: she bathe my beach till i say hello @faceofbeast: she celina on my pedia til i gave my mind blindly
@opera-ghost: deb once let me borrow her rolls royce @kyannnite: deb fought a grizzly bear to rescue me once @paper-faces: deb paid for my college @haunted-hideaway: deb's hais is insured for a million dollars @faceofbeast: Deb fed me to a shark once, but i forgave her cuz she's Deb @dimmedghosts: deb once performed open heart surgery on me in just 30 minutes @paper-faces: deb invested a dollar for my brother and it became 3 mill
@opera-ghost: whoa mama you sold me to the freak show @dimmedghosts: woah mama can i have two kisses @paper-faces: woah momma my first scrap of clothing @faceofbeast: whoah mama you've been reincarnated as the object of my desire
Wishing
~~~~~ DADDYING, TRIO ~~~~~
@kyannnite: my love it never die christines are my favorite guy
@from-aldebaran: The Phantom is hoping for some grace by the grave @paper-faces: @ deb he is… wishing
@faceofbeast: and now for the next segment, Saving Grace
@opera-ghost: this suspiciously fridge-shaped cross
@funeral_lilies: the way the phantom is sort of like her cross to bear cigarette emoji
@Bway-Ghost: so glad she is going to get to move on and live a better life without he grief waying her down wait who is that
@haunted-hideaway: bless his creepy little heart
@motelpearl: also i just pulled out my handy copy of the de mattos translation and i didnt remember they actually referred to christines dad as daddy daae lol
(On no fire) @dimmedghosts: chinese osha said no pewpew @opera-ghost: he's hitten em with the pervert mist @Forestscribe4: puff the magic dragon….
@glassprism: Shares a (link) without any other comment @funeral-lilies: Celina thank you for this insanely invaluable piece of information. I absolutely agree
@Forestscribe4: fun fact, puff the magic dragon frolicked in the phantom mist
Egg's T-Shirt Quest:
I think this started from saying that the phantom is t posing behind the cross (???)
@eaggesalat: i have created a stick figure t pose
(LINK) TO THE AMAZING ART
I don't know if this ever got answered or not, but @eaggesalat requests information on how to make a t-shirt!
(I am a HUGE fan of this interpretation. Thank you, Egg)
SECURE!
@IamTouring771: Erik likes no buts and he cannot lie
@faceofbeast: Erik lik no buts but a HUUUUGE…bustle! @motelpearl: erm actually this was the natural form era when bustles were at their smallest
Point of No Return Side Quest
This was likely started by @wheel-of-fish's recent merch drop based off some... sketchy translation work. (Link to store)
@dimmedghosts: when is the point of no return
@paper-faces: what is the point of no return
@opera-ghost: who is the point of no return
@dimmedghosts: where is the point of no return
@kyannnite: when is the point of no return
@funeral_lilies: when's the point of no return
@from-aldebaran: How much is the point of no return
@dimmedghosts: how is the point of no return
@from-aldebaran: Donde esta el point of no return
@dimmedghosts: cuando el point of no return
PONR
@Forestscribe4: rik wrote panties out of the opera
@faceofbeast: Thong Juan triphant
@motelpearl: the sex jeggings have evolved into the sex snuggie
@opera-ghost: his green line is angled toward her or whatever
@warpweight: sometimes grace's voice has such a nice like…. old-timey quality to it ugh @paper-faces: warpweight would you say its… classically trained?
@funeral_lilies: her little screm
@warpweight: HE HAS A FULL LIKE 90S CENTER PART BOWL CUT SHAWN HUNTER BOY MEETS WORLD STYLE UNDER HIS WIG
@GlassPrism: Full on duckling hair
@phaptomoftheopera: his voice breaks are doing somthn to me
@wheel-of-fish: he's so voice
@Forestscribe4: man, it's something about the understudies
"Christine, why? WHY?"
On the Tempo:
@dimmedghosts: THE TEMPO?????? FUCK YOU LONDON
@daaesviolin: this is how the tempo should always be. it's lets all these amazing moment and actors just breathe
@warpweight: like how when there's a spare minute in final lair it gives it the breathing room to feel like you are watching him Make Bad Decisions instead of just a lighting combo of behaviors
Final Lair
(He's just YELLING at Christine and whining)
@carlottadefender: he won't make it to coney island if I have anything to say about it
@GlassPrism: She slid like a golf ball into its hole - oh wait wrong Phantom
@litloverscorsetlaces: I love Phantoms that age 40 years in their posture after the unmasking
@opera-ghost: from peanits to pee paw
@motelpearl: your lover takes a passionate pee
(There was an issue with the lasso)(Damn I should've screenshotted it RIP sorry pham)
@probablynotben: is the lasso rope going sideways? @GlassPrism: Yeah I think the rope fell lol @paper-faces: i think something went wrong with the lasso bc he got it on raoul late
@jennyfair7: it's truly a magical lasso
@64feet: it's better than electric portcullis at least
@warpweight: his lasso defies gravity @lonlranching: the lasso is….. defying gravity
@warpweight: half mast lasso. hard to stay erect in this stress
@kyannnite: they cant import australian lassos because they would be upside down
@lonlranching: she kisses him and the lasso snaps right back up
@GlassPrism: I think you can tell sometimes that it's early on in his run but when Harry Mills lets loose he really goes for it
@mirrorbride: she is glowling like an angel
@dimmedghosts: he is already decomposinjg
@opera-ghost: pervert mist is ejected from the lasso
@paper-faces: VOICE CRACK @litloverscorsetlaces: VOICE CRACK @litloverscorsetlaces: this is fine
@phaptomoftheopera: i like that both christine and raoul seemed very hesitant to leave
Harry Mills' Age at the Time of Filming Side Quest
@GlassPrism: Oh someone asked about his age and I think Harry Mills is 27
@faceofbeast: HE'S 27 WITH NO MONEY AND NO PROSPECTS AND ALREADY A BURDEN ON HIS PArents. AND HE'S FRIGHTENED
@opera-ghost: two seven 🤷
@GlassPrism: No wait, he was 27 in 2026 lolol. This was 2024. He's 25
Final Thoughts
@kyannnite: oh hes. hes not making ut out
@Bway-Ghost: oh my
@mirrorbride: he needs to be put down
@TheEggSaysHMills: no coney island for him
@dimmedghosts: FUCK
@Bway-Ghost: oh
@warpweight: he's never getting out of that chair again after this
Anyway I'm incapable of being succinct. Oh well. Also I'm not going back to double check my work. Please let me know if anything is wrong. If you're tagged incorrectly. Anything. Thank you to you all for the best Saturday, as always. <3
I love the way Earl Carpenter telegraphs the whole range of Erik's thoughts and emotions after the kiss. Like he doesn't say a word but you can literally see the whole internal dialogue and it's like "I've always wanted to know what that felt like but WTF have you done to me what are these feelings and I can't even let you see me like this *whimper* but that was single handedly the best thing that's ever happened to me I might cry WHY DID YOU DO THAT CHRISTINE AND WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW?!?! Oh....Goddamnit. I have to free your boyfriend."
I never make claims about "the best" but after much consideration I've broken my own rule and have come to the conclusion that '06 Earl Carpenter was the best Phantom kisser IMO. I have no further comments at this time and will not be taking questions.
An Essay on Why David Shannon and Gina Beck Are My Favorite Final Lair Coupling
They are just absolutely brilliant together. And I think it's a combination of bouncing off each other's spontaneous reactions well, but also having a plan and complete synergy in how they understand their characters and the arc of the scene. It all works together to secure the Phantom's transformation and redemption while also leaving the audience feeling like Christine made the right decision, which is such a hard line to walk in the final lair.
I think Gina's Christine genuinely loves Erik in this one, but there was absolutely no way she was going to stay with him after everything he'd done. The decision is questionable for other Christines, but her particular take on the character just wasn't going to allow for that, especially given his Phantom's more aggressive approach to the final lair.
And unlike other interpretations of this scene, both she and David/the Phantom know that and it plays out in their body language post-kiss. Up to that point, David had literally been grabbing Christine at will and throwing her all over the place, all while desperately denying that his actions were dooming their relationship. And now she comes back to return the ring and he literally can't make himself touch her because he knows he's pissed away every claim to that kind of intimacy with her. There's no verbal or physical bid for her to stay; that unfulfilled caress says "I recognize what I've done and that I have no right to ask you to be with me, so I'm letting you go." And even worse is the fact that David also plays Erik with chronic pain, so we can hardly tell if the face twitch/wince he does is literal or figurative (let's just say it's both).
Resisted every temptation to make 10 gifs of the kiss and ring return alone. Shout out to Will Barratt (Raoul) because this is one of the best final lair triangulations I've ever seen. This final lair is not a performance; you are literally watching Christine and Erik fight for their lives, and you are fighting for yours. Also why is Shannon the only person who plays Erik like his face might actually cause him chronic pain? Why hasn't anyone else run with this in ALW Land?
Saturday, June 13, 2026 • 9 p.m. EST: David Shannon, Gina Beck & Simon Bailey (London 2010)
You've most likely heard the phrase "Here goes nothing..." usually spoken before someone tries something that is seemingly impossible, something they are not at all sure is going to succeed, but hoping so very much that it will.
Well, that is certainly applicable as I prepare to step into the role long filled by a person who has demonstrated a dedicated commitment to building community. A person who changed my life with just a few words, and, as I have learned especially these past few weeks, changed so many people's lives for the better over the years.
That person is @wheel-of-fish, and this past Saturday was her 300th Saturday Stream of so many versions and visions of The Phantom of the Opera.
Fish has built an amazing and enduring community in the Saturday Streams. She brought us all together weekly, gathering amid the highs and lows of our internal lives, the highs and lows of the real world swirling around us, often shadowed and dark and incomprehensible these last several years.
Fish's Saturday Streams are a refuge, a source of companionship and wit, of shared heartbreak and sadness, as we long each week for a different ending for our trio despite knowing it is not meant to be. And amidst the tragedy on stage, there is always that glint of compassion and redemption, sparked by a kiss--and the specter of hope for the future held in an empty chair.
One of the truest things I know is that shared pain is lessened and shared joy increased. Thank you so much, Fish, for what you have made here in this place you have built, and thank you for entrusting it to me so that it can continue to be a place for us to gather and share joy.
This week we will be watching a performance that has significance in Streams history and personal significance for me.
The Streams had been a bit intermittent in the fall of 2019, with two Streams in October, two in November, one in December and then...had gone quiet.
Meanwhile, the Fourth American Phantom Tour was nearing its end and came through my home city in November 2019. It was then I saw Phantom for the first time, with Derrick Davis as the Phantom, and I was thunderstruck. I saw it twice, in November and December, followed it to a neighboring state for a third show and then to Chicago for a fourth and last performance. The show was closing at its next stop in Toronto January and February 2020 and the pieces almost came together for me to get to the closing show, February 2nd...but work had other plans and I was not able to go.
What was I going to do now?
I was not yet on social media at all, but had been poking around as a visitor to tumblr and fate smiled when I saw an announcement for something called Saturday Streams:
"Special reappearance of Saturday Streams!
Saturday, Feb. 15 • 9 p.m. EST: David Shannon, Gina Beck & Will Barratt (London 2010)"
And written in that announcement, the words that would change my life in such a profound fashion: "shy anons are welcome."
This stream that we are playing again this coming Saturday was the first time I saw the brilliant original, and not the restaged version which contained enough of the heart and soul of the show to already hook me completely. To say the stream was a profound experience is a profound understatement.
I was not yet a tumblr member and so I missed the announcement a month later--as we all became aware that the world was heading into a crisis and we had no notion of how it would all turn out--that Fish was bringing back the Streams on March 14, 2020 with stream number 34...and well, we all just experienced number 300 this past Saturday. I missed 34 and 35 but then saw the announcement for 36 and here I have been ever since.
This performance is a Streams favorite and has been played five times since that first showing in 2020--once for Fish's 100th stream! The last showing was in a colossal marathon of eleven productions of London Phantom that began on August 2nd, 2025. Both Fish and @glassprism -- keeper of Phantom knowledge-- agree that "this is a much-requested pairing with great chemistry and acting and a classic", and that Gina Beck is widely regarded as one of the best Christines of all time.
And so, after all that being said, I get to post for the first time the words that brought me into Phantom fandom, onto tumblr, into POTO fanfic writing, and led to more friendships and experiences than I could ever have possibly imagined:
As always, the stream will be on cy.tube and
shy anons are welcome.
Thanks for all of it, Fish.
Here goes...everything.
⭐PFPs featured on the Saturday Streams banner are left to right Streams Founder @operaofthephantom, 300 Club Streams Host @wheel-of-fish, new host @from-aldebaran, and our Phantom Founder, Gaston Leroux. Massive thanks to @opera-ghost for the PFP additions to Fish's original banner.
⭐For more info, please see the Saturday Streams FAQ
⭐Remember to follow @from-aldebaran for stream posts going forward.
⭐Streams announcement posting schedule after this outlier on Wednesday will go back to the usual Tuesday and Thursday posts, a post noonish on Saturday and then the showtime post Saturday evening.
“Meanwhile, the father died; and, suddenly, she seemed to have lost with him her voice, her soul and her genius. She retained just, but only just, enough of this to enter the conservatoire, where she did not distinguish herself at all, attending the classes without enthusiasm and taking a prize only to please old Mamma Valerius…”
Processing the anniversary of my dad’s death and thinking (again) about how much I relate to Christine. I told my therapist today that missing my dad is the “easy” part of grief, because the sweetness of the love we share, which is permanent, is as powerful as the bitterness of missing him.
The hard part is grieving who I am without him—this person with anxiety and depression who can’t seem to do anything as well as I used to when he was alive. I worry for the parts of me that feel “lost with him” that I can’t seem to function without, but also don’t know how to get back.
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