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So hanging out at Epic Universe in Darkmoor cause that’s my home (clearly) and all I can think is…man Armand and Victoria Frankenstein would kind of get on well…might be the only vampire she could stand and also like huge ass manor with its own lab and lab assistants willing to do crazy experiments? You’d have to drag Armand away.
god i just. man, this season was brilliant. i love that the purpose of this whole ride was to get to know lestat just as he is. an artist, a lover, a victim, a monster, a failure. the whole message of this season seems to be “no one can be normal about lestat, and lestat is incapable of being normal in return”, and it’s kind of crazy that it’s bleeding over into the fandom as well. he’s got his stans who think he can do no wrong, his overwrought haters who see him as a cartoonish villain, and people who want him to be what they see him as rather than who he is. the only person who sees him truly is, and will always be, louis. for better or worse, richer or poorer, headless or headstrong, it’s always been the two of them.
this is some of the most experimental and fascinating television i’ve ever seen, and i can’t wait to see where we go from here. whatever comes next, it’s going to be a hell of a ride.
The way people were vilifying this finale on Twitter, you'd think Rolin had completely decimated the plot. Except I saw a set up for two more seasons and us at least getting two more books. Also, it's very evident that the newer fans are simply not theatre kids. Sure they may watch theatre but they're not theatre diehards and it shows. Because that whole episode was like a well choreographed stage play if they decided Alice in Wonderland and Saw needed to be combined into a new adaptation. Everything we had questions about up to this point, were mostly answered. They gave us insight into things we didn't think we'd ever get and they set up new plotlines (not plot holes). There's only one scene I'm a little confused about only because of the meaning behind it if I interpreted it correctly. The only reason I'd be upset at that one is because if what they implied is true, then that means the one true act of "God" and not Lestat, was indeed also initiated by Lestat which goes against the books in a way that is unnecessary for the sole purpose of it complicates Loustat in a way that doesn't need to exist. Everything else felt very Rolin and Hannah and I'm genuinely sorry Apple fucked up the finale because this could've been really cool to have everyone experience at the same time and not days in advance, dodging spoilers.
as a fan of the vampire chronicles for 11 years and with tvl being my favorite book, i definitely have very mixed feelings on this season purely as an adaptation. it's obviously not what we all expected, and we know there was network/budget interference in some written scenes they wanted to film, but clearly certain choices were made for this to be a non-traditional adaptation regardless of episode count or them just filming in toronto. i've had ups and downs with that aspect of it, and have really, really missed my book accurate masc gabrielle, my lesmand scenes, my full nickistat arc, etc.
at the same time, i truly feel this has been a stellar season of television. i've adored (nearly) every episode beyond all reason, especially once i let go of my long-held book expectations and just enjoyed the show for what it is, this particular story that these writers wanted to tell. the head writers are all the same as seasons 1 and 2, and i personally do not feel any nuance or quality has been lost in that regard at all. it's been a huge stylistic shift, but i don't see how that wasn't the expectation from everyone, considering how much of a whiplash the source material perspective shift is. i've watched each episode at least 3 times and get something new out of them every time.
what ended up mattering more to me at the end of the day than specific book scenes being faithfully adapted was that book lestat was there in all his glory. to me, the most important aspects of my favorite character have been on full display - his chaos, his vulnerability, his love for humans, his theatricality, the violence inside him he reckons with. i love it all, and this season feels so unbelievably true to the character across ALL books in the series (specifically those 90s/00s years, like totbt and memnoch) in a way that s1 lestat actually didn't for me.
i used to say that showstat, while i also loved him dearly, was not quite the same for me as my bookstat, but that's really changed this season. this is the most book accurate the character has ever been, and again, that's the most important thing to me. i just love him so so much, and having a full season of him being so *himself* has made me extremely giddy.
"armand isn't owed an apology after all the shit he did to louis, i can't believe they made him do that"
hey guys? Do we maybe think that Armand's tit-for-tat mentality, and the way he's been tallying up his and everyone else's sins against each other is a problem? Is it maybe possible that Louis managing to find empathy for Armand in the face of the monstrosity being done to him, and that radical act of kindness and honesty (about the ways he unintentionally hurt Armand) moving Armand so much that it nearly breaks him, is idk a major theme of this whole season?
you know, sorta like how Lestat was holding onto his feelings of betrayal about the book, and all it did to serve him was make him absolutely miserable and lonely and push him into the arms of someone actively harming him. And how it was only after he let that go, and helped Louis even though he still thought that Louis didn't give a shit about him, that they were able to connect again and be happier than we've ever seen them.
Or like how Louis was able to look past his initial feelings of revulsion and betrayal about the Sophia lie, and offered comfort and a space to speak honestly, and how that granted him a deeper understanding of Lestat, and ultimately strengthened their bond.
Are we seeing the pattern here? How they're breaking the curse of loneliness when they stop seeing each other as monsters, and extend a bit of empathy, even when it's hard or not deserved? How addressing the gaping wound behind the actions might open the door to healing for both parties?
Anyway I f Ing loved the episode and understand it’s PART 1…PART 1….like….part one of IWTV also left off an a cliffhanger like are we all watching the same show? This is TVL. Next season is QOTD…liiiiiike I just didn’t expect them to wrap it all up? Hell for all we know part 2 has already been filmed…or is filming we don’t know
Like I’ve only connected this way with one of episode of TV in my life and that was one episode of the Mandalorian when I literally wanted to jump off the TV and tell Grogu to run because he didn’t want to end up like Luke and Ahsoka and…me who always had to shove their feelings down and put on a mask….i wanted to save that little green baby from ending up like me.
And this time it’s like…seeing the character I identify with most in the world just…finally let it out even in a fucked up way at someone who HE feels hurt him. When I’ve had so much of the same anger and hurt and I feel like I have this giant open wound and I can’t ever really just TELL these people what they did. And man how much I wish I could just have like three people? Alone in a room where they can’t hurt me but I can just finally FINALLY let them have it. And tell them how much they’ve hurt me and what pieces of shit they are and….its like that part of me…that gremlin got out and yes its not the same but it just made me like…finally it feels like the rage and hurt came out
Maybe I love Armand because he’s doing what I wish I could do to SO many people because I am so so so tired of people who’ve done so much wrong shit to me just getting away with it and I’m tired of being the doormat who tries to make everyone happy and is so scared of confrontation and just fucking…calling some people out. Maybe I’m angry that the people who’ve caused me literal nightmares and told me to kill myself just got to laugh it off and walk away and live their lives cause ‘it got boring’ meanwhile they caused me to have several mental breakdowns while my dad was having fucking surgery and pass up three professional callbacks cause I was literally terrified they’d be there and attack me and they got to do this for weeks and then just ‘moved on’. Maybe I wish I could lop of their head and fucking SCREAM AT THEM not jsut for this but for six years ago. Maybe he is me. Maybe he’s my inner gremlin made real….damn this episode is messing with my head
Agatha Harkness and Armand would be best friends
It was Armand All Along
Y’all I hate to break something to you but THIS IS ARMAND. He LITERALLY did this in the books. He is a deeply traumatized fucked up gremlin and that’s why we LOVE him. Because he does truly WTF things (loves his weird ass experiments) BUT YOU STILL GET WHY. Just…this is the character and I think someone forgot this was a horror show?
I LIKE THE VAMPIRE LESTATS MUSIC AND ACTIVELY LISTEN TO IT OUTSIDE OF THE SHOW
Not only that I got my parents who are 80s rock people to listen, my mom has them on repeat
Armand's Guide to Stopping Lestat's Stupid Great Conversion (with Daniel Molloy)
Step 1. Ask Very Nicely (Failed)
Step 2. Break Up the Band (Failed)
Step 3. Bring in the Boyfriend (Failed)
Step 4. Deploy Public Shaming (Failed)
Step 5. Start Chopping Heads (Results Pending)
Loustat is compelling because they constantly push each other to the brink of insanity but they also have kind eyes and say romantic things to each other.
Devils Minion is compelling because they’re both awful people who are so Insane about each other in such an unhealthy way that it’s kind of beautiful.
As someone who loves both, this is the most balanced thing I've seen on this site in quite some time. Long live the fucky couples.
EXACTLY. Daniel is the only one who’s seen Armand for who exactly who he is and went THAT ONE! Same with Armand with Daniel.
Y’all LET THEM COOK!
Season 4 which will be QOTD was ALWAYS going to be the full Devils Minion story. Because THATS WHEN IT HAPPENED IN THE BOOKS!! THIS IS JUST THE DAMN START! You see it this season and then we’ll probably get SEVERAL episodes about how it all happened!!!! Both past and present! LET THE TALE SEDUCE YOU! This isn’t instant gratification like Heated Rivalry!
I LOVE THIS SHOW
LOUSTAT FOREVER
DEVILS MINION FOREVER
All the wards for all of them (DEALAINEY HAYLES AND SAM REID ESPECIALLY)
GABRIELLA IS AN ABUSER
I STAND WITH DANIEL AND ARMAND ALWAYS AND FOREVER
MURDER HUSBANDS!!!
I opened a video on tiktok where marius calls him rotten boy and the comments were saying he is a liar and he knew marius was alive and that he deserved what was done to him because of claudia. half of this fandom is genuinely braindead like throw the whole thing out there’s no salvation
Oh no no NO we are NOT defending Marius in this fandom. Absolutely not. I may love the PORTRAYAL of Marius but I hate him. And that’s what he wants he wants you to go ‘oh look at the wise quirky mentor he HAS to be the good guy!’ And no. No he’s a piece of shit.
