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I know everyone loves Yuna and Ilya’s relationship bc it’s so lovely for Ilya to experience a mothers love and warmth after not having it since he was twelve and I agree, but honestly David and Ilya’s relationship really gets me.

Like Ilya has never experienced kindness or warmth from any older male/father figure in his life, even his older brother was cold and spoke to him with such vitriol. All Ilya has ever known are stoic, cold or cruel men. Then comes boring and socially awkward David Hollander who welcomes him immediately, calls him ‘son’, buys good Russian vodka, cooks chicken Parmesan bc it’s Ilya’s favorite, does puzzles with Ilya and treats him with the tenderness and kindness of a quiet loving father, something that Ilya had NEVER had before.

This man of few words went to see Ilya the morning of his wedding specifically because he knew Ilya had no family there and he had a full speech rehearsed about how he and Yuna always wanted another child and now they have one, because he wanted to Ilya to know that they both see him as a son and that he has a family now, even though he was worried about over stepping.

Ilya knew a mothers love before but he’d never known a fathers love until David😭

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #shane hollander #david hollander #yuna hollander #hollanov #ilya x shane

mickeym4ndy

when I move cities and start over and fall in love and he falls in love w me but despite that all the problems I have still exist and I can’t outrun myself no matter how hard I try and once again I’m left w the knowledge that wherever u go there u are

mickeym4ndy

so noah kahan has actually just written a song about this exact feeling so that’s good

mickeym4ndy

so noah kahan has actually just written a song about this exact feeling so that’s good

the thing about hollanov in tlg is that they are 30 years old so they are Adults with Adult Relationship Issues but a big problem is there are too many 19 year olds trying to analyze hollanov’s relationship through a lens they’re simply not mature enough to understand no shade

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #hollanov #shane hollander #I’m sorry teenagers u mean well I know that #but I fear u just. Don’t have enough life experience for some of these conversations #you’ll get it when ur older dw xx

I know the close friendship between Ilya and cliff is fanon more than canon but people seem to think it’s canon that cliff is a raging homophobe and that Ilya never gave a fuck about him. when in reality, besides Ilya saying that the locker room in Boston wouldn’t have been as friendly to Harris being gay as Ottawa, there’s nothing in canon to suggest that cliff would disapprove of Ilya being bi or dating Shane. He’s barely mentioned in tlg but every time he is mentioned in both books it’s basically Ilya describing him as a lovable himbo.

And also, the show definitely implied they were pretty good friends and definitely made cliff seem like less of a dumbass. Really, they made him quite likable. If you’d only seen the show, you’d be forgiven for thinking they were pretty close and that that would continue in the later seasons. There’s nothing in the show to suggest that Cliff was a bad friend or that Ilya didn’t care about him. I don’t think he’s gonna be in s2 but idk why people complain when he’s close with Ilya in fics. It makes perfect sense for them to be good friends after watching the show.

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #cliff marlow #cliff marleau

I think people would make much better points about Ilya’s decision to move to Ottawa if they took into account that Ilya was probably… not in the best frame of mind when he made that decision.

#I do think looking back that his fathers death was probably the trigger for his depression to worsen #Yes it was his decision but the months following ur abusive fathers death aren’t exactly the best months to be making life altering dec #Decisions #heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #hollanov #shane hollander #the long game

idk if they’ll actually adapt the dream scene of ilya’s mother bc idk if it really fits the tone of the show (I could be wrong tho!) but I would love if in s2 they showed pictures of her at least. would be nice to put a face to the name that haunts the book so much.

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #irina rozanov

I feel like people are dooming so much over the cast/crew of this show that they’re forgetting (or just never grasped (extremely plausible possibility)) key plot points of the book.

By TLG, Ilya’s fear of being forced back to Russia & punished for being queer was lessened by moving to Ottawa & becoming official with Shane, because then the scary US immigration situation wasn’t an issue anymore and if he was outed & lost his job, he could marry Shane & that would grant him a Canadian visa - these are all points they discuss together at the end of HR. It’s why he’s so desperate to come out in TLG compared to his fear/reluctance in HR– Russia isn’t as much of a factor for him anymore. He even says in HR that he doesn’t think he’ll ever go back after his dad dies, he doesn’t want to. So realistically, Russia isn’t even going to be mentioned in that regard.

Shane is the one with more fear around coming out, for pretty fair reasons, so it would generally make more sense for the show to focus *more* on Shane than Ilya when it comes to this element of the plot, and tie in elements of his race that the book neglected to deal with – the pressure of being a minority in a predominantly white (and historically pretty racist) sport, how coming out would just add to that, how he doesn’t want to be a poster child but also doesn’t want to let people down etc. All of which the show has already given more weight to than the books.

Ilya’s struggle in TLG isn’t about fear of homophobia in Russia/coming out, it’s about resurfacing childhood trauma from his family & how that leads to depression. Russia barely comes up in TLG in the context of coming out.

Jacob has made some missteps in the last few months and definitely Shane’s Asian identity could’ve been explored even more, but in general the show has given more weight to Shane’s struggles than the books ever did, I’d like to think that would continue.

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #shane hollander #hollanov #Jacob tierney #Sorry for bringing Twitter drama here but I saw this and was like #so u either haven’t read the books or have let discourse about the cast cloud ur memory of the story #Or they just never actually understood it in the first place #only time i explore HR twt is to find fic recs #and the whole time it’s like trying to avoid landmines to try not to come across something insane #everyone needs to take many steps back i fear but they’re beyond saving atp

i followed you for gallavich so i have to ask: how do you think ian and mickey would react to heated rivalry? i think mickey would be apprehensive until he realized a lot of it was dudes banging. go in for the gay sex stay for the emotional vulnerability

Ngl I haven’t rly thought about gallavich in a long time but this made me laugh bc Mickey would probably be like “I heard there’s a bunch of gay sex in this hockey show let’s watch it” and then cry at the end of episode 5.

(I sorta feel like ep 3 would probs hit him a bit harder than expected bc the whole bit of Scott being a lil mean to Kip in the museum and them breaking up bc Scott wouldn’t come out would remind him of how he was with Ian at the beginning maybe. He also may have a knee-jerk reaction to the moment David finds them initially.)

Buuuut also he’d probably be like “oh ur scared of being called a slur??? Losing your brand deals?? At least ur dad didn’t try to kill you🙄 pussies”

#asks #Shameless

Ilya who loves his mother so deeply he has her on such a high pedestal and can’t blame her for leaving him despite the pain her death/finding her caused him because he understands so deeply the sadness and hopelessness she felt. Shane who struggles to understand how someone could put the person they love through the pain of not just losing them but finding their dead body and begins to slightly resent Irina for causing so much pain in Ilya’s life but he could never tell Ilya because that element of her death may never be something that Ilya is able to face

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #hollanov #shane hollander #Idk I just think it’s interesting the way he talks about her. She’s so revered in his eyes. She can never do wrong #even tho many would feel anger #She’s perfect in his eyes. His beautiful funny sad mother #But no mother is perfect #And maybe the version of her he wants to remember isn’t really who she was. He was 12 years old when she died. Did he truly know her?#As a person. Not just as his mother #He has so much sympathy for her bc of his dad #Some would feel anger that she left him to deal w her dad alone (ik he had alexei but still)#Ilya doesn’t seem to have that resentment #But I think it’d be normal if he did #And I think it’d be normal for someone on the outside looking in to think ‘aren’t u angry tho? How could she do that to u’#Shane would obviously have empathy and understanding for her it wouldn’t come from lack of empathy #but more from someone looking from the outside in that doesn’t share the rose tinted glasses Ilya has of his mother #That it would be normal to hear the stories Ilya tells and think ‘idk if that’s as good of a memory as u think’#I do genuinely think Shane would never express this tho bc he understands ilyas adoration of her #he’d never want to ruin the image of irina in ilyas mind #Maybe I should’ve made the tags a post. Might in a bit idk

connell waldron and marianne sheridan have a son and his name is ilya rozanov

#he really is a mix of the two of them #heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #hollanov #normal people #marianne sheridan #connell waldron

the heated rivalry fandom is just a humiliation ritual for all the actors and creatives involved

#man idk how I’d be a celebrity with such a embarrassing fans it’d be so humiliating #heated rivalry

re reading the long game and wow connor storrie is really gonna blow everyone away with those depressed ilya scenes isn’t he

#heated rivalry #connor storrie #its a crime he can’t be nominated for playing ilya #the talent that man has is unmatched

in a severe depressed ilya fanfic drought i feel like i’ve read them all plsssss drop any recs plssss xx

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #shane hollander #hollanov

passively suicidal firefighter Ilya who frequently gets injured on the job because he has no regard for his own life so he constantly risks it to save other people & er doctor Shane who often has to patch him up

Shane has a big fat crush on this sexy russian firefighter but thinks there’s no way Ilya is into him to except Ilya is smitten immediately and flirts w Shane like crazy and eventually they get their heads out of their asses and go on a date and it’s all fun & games until Ilya gets injured one too many times and his boss calls him out for his risky behavior & lack of regard for his own safety & puts him on mandated leave and tells him to get a psych evaluation and to see a therapist and Shane has to try keep calm when Ilya’s in the er for his most recent injury and he sees in Ilya’s chart that Ilya needs a psych consult for suicidal ideation

#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #shane hollander #hollanov #ilya x shane #shane x ilya

#oh tlg Ilya I understand u on a cosmic level #the sad realisation that love won’t heal u and u just have to do it yourself #bc it’s about more than that #I wish I was only talking about ilya here #Genuine question if New York City hasn’t cured me then what will :)#heated rivalry #ilya rozanov #the long game #hr tlg #hollanov

genuinely need a fleetwood mac biopic

#stevie and Lindsey’s dramatic asses would only love to be involved in it I’d say #how has no one made one about the rumors era genuinely #Fleetwood Mac

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