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[mini-jiminie]

hiii,

Welcome to my little corner of tumblr :)

I’m a long-time army and koomi enthusiast🫶🏽 yay

I mostly share my rambles and thoughts!

(Thankfully I finally blew the dust off this account because, any longer on stan-twitter and my soul would’ve been completely leeched from my body).

☺️

if you’re a solo, anti or not ot7, kindly leave

- thanks

[jjungkkook]

[stormblessed95]

Saw on twt, it was to help voting, so go do that too. But I want to play this game here with y'all too! Feel free to reblog or send me your answers in an ask if you'd rather!

who in bts?

1) first who caught your attention:

2) first bias:

3) current bias:

4) bias wrecker:

5) first music video you watched:

6) favorite song:

Mine:

1) Jhope, Jimin

2) Jimin

3) Jimin and Yoongi

4) Jhope, JK

5) Make It Right

6) so many I really can't pick and you can't make me

[beautifulpersonpeach]

who in bts?

1) first who caught your attention:

2) first bias:

3) current bias:

4) bias wrecker:

5) first music video you watched:

6) favorite song:

Mine:

1) RM

2) Yoongi

3) RM, Hoseok, Yoongi, Jimin

4) Jungkook

5) No More Dream

6) Dis-ease... I think.

[mini-jiminie]

This is fun!!

Who in bts?

1) first who caught your attention:

2) first bias:

3) current bias:

4) bias wrecker:

5) first music video you watched:

6) favorite song:

My Answers -

1) jungkook

2) jungkook

3) jimin

4) lately joon

5) dope

6) this honestly had me lost for a bit but, the song I’m always in the mood to listen to is ‘Tomorrow’

,,,my fav bts body of work is, LY: Tear though!!

[mini-jiminie]

Hello, I am writng on behalf of my friend Ahmed Ashraf from Gaza.

He cares fro his whole 11-member family and 2 children of his late sister.

Their situation is truly horrible, they are battling hunger, sickness, and constant fear of danger, and it has already exhausted them to the point where they are starting to lose hope.

Please share the camapign, it is a lifeline for them.

Donate here: https://chuffed.org/project/124181-ich-helfe-meiner-familie-mit-essen-und-trinken Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

please help out if you can

[zackstriker]

what nonphannies don’t understand is that it isn’t about “knowing” it’s about dnp’s queer joy and comfort level. we’re not happy bc they told us, we’re happy bc they felt comfortable and joyful enough to tell us. “knowing” has a weird power connotation. If you “knew” all along you’re trying to establish power over information that you don’t have authority on, and it takes power away from the people (dnp) telling you the information.

[mini-jiminie]

jimin’s furniture is ugly as hell😭

…..jungkook’s too while we’re at it

[mini-jiminie]

Happy Birthday to my loveliest love<3

[mini-jiminie]

Willing to sacrifice Bang Pd in a blood ritual just to get these two together in the same frame

[chevelleneech]

I wish jikookers could just be normal. The entire jikook tag is moving like taekookers post-taennie reveal. Saying the statement isn't real, saying they didn't date/weren't romantically involved, making up conspiracies.

The statement is real and its a press-release, something totally normal for BH to do and which they have done before. Why wasn't it released through an official channel? Because its not related to his career or work, and its not meant for fans. Its a PRESS-release to address questions from the press as well as narratives they were creating about jimin, and probably also to indirectly address the other party (d*eun). Also use logic here, if every single news outlet was saying "BH said this", they would have put out a statement within the hour denouncing it if it wasn't officially from them. The statement was actually incredibly well handled and anyone with any modicum of PR experience or understanding can see that. It ended any speculation about a current relationship between them, didn't say anything that may incure more drama on jimin, and also addressed the harassment she was getting.

Why did they defend her? They didn't, they defended jimin from rhetoric that he was condoning harassment. That statement cleared him from being responsible for backlash she got for her own actions on social media. Why didn't they go harder on her? Because the optics look bad in korean media with her clearly being unstable, saying she's been harassed, and the power difference between their fame levels. It would have made it look like jimin was piling on her. I also think jimin doesn't want to go the legal route if he doesn't have to, it can be messy and personal, so its better to just hope the statement puts an end to her behavior and only go that route if it continues. The media will probably also be on his side now if he doesn't have to take legal action because he already spoke out about the harassment and admitted she was ex from years ago. Basically he's positioned well PR-wise for if he does need to take legal action in the future.

Why didn't they outright say they "dated"? Because its still taboo to be quite honest and their vague description encompasses all possible scenarios of a romantic relationship without specifying (i.e. dating, talking, getting to know each other, friends with benefits, etc.). I need jikookers (not you because you seem to be more grounded) on this website/app to make one thing VERY clear though, all koreans and korean news sites understood that this was clearly admitting to them having been romantically linked years ago. Regardless of translation issues, the intention was not ambiguous. This is like jada pinkett smith and her "entanglement" with someone outside of her marriage, everyone understood what that meant even if she refused to call it an affair.

Also the conspiracies are too much. We're all allowed to have our own opinions, but is it really that hard to believe that during the pandemic, two people in the same building might have had a fling? And that one of them might have turned out to be a fame-fucker clout chaser? Like people are trying to come up with all these off the wall reasons (of course relating to jikook) why she did what she did when its clear as day she hasn't been able to get an acting job in years and was doing all this hinting at jimin while trying to make money off livestreams. The attention LITERALLY pays her bills.

Its just frustrating because I still like jikook as whatever they are and I'd love to follow blogs who aren't pushing all this nonsense just to avoid admitting they were maybe wrong. I also wouldn't even mind hearing from jikookers who still believed jikook are together and him dating her fits into their timeline. All this conspiracizing and denial from the majority of the tag has turned me off the community entirely. All that behavior does is put further shame on jimin for having had a normal human experience because they don't want to accept it and makes it harder to normalize the members dating. Jimin was cornered and basically harassed by his ex for years, forced into this position, and then had the courage to put out this statement and be the first member who admitted to being in a romantic relationship even though he is so incredibly private and its pissing me off seeing people try to twist it because they can't accept it. Jimin deserves better, he deserves fans who will acknowledge and accept his human experiences and don't put further shame on it because it doesn't fit the narrative they created in their head.

I agree with you, anon.

Only thing is, I’m pretty sure Namjoon was the first to confirm a relationship. He did it after the fact, if I recall, when he was talking his albums and about going through breakups and stuff. He didn’t say with who, obviously, but I think the issue is that majority of the fandom only cares if it’s maknae line. Not you specifically, but Joon put out a whole album about missing an ex, getting over them, dealing with the messiness of fame and dating, etc., but people are only losing their mind over Jimin’s ex having a face and name.

It’s ridiculous, honestly. They date. We know they do. Tae and Jennie were literally blasted all over social media, yet still Tkkrs denied that. Now, some Jikookers are denying Jimin having dated someone, becuase they don’t want to be wrong or are stuck on the fairytale they’ve built up in their heads. It’s unnecessary, when people can just ship them loosely or look at the overall situation and apply the new information where it fits in.

There’s no one forcing us to ship them nor believe every aspect of their lives are black and white. People fall in love. Some people fall out of it. Some people never realize their feelings for someone else, other’s do and keep it to themselves. Some people act on their feelings and have them required, but still a committed relationship never happens. We don’t know where they are in their journey, even if it seems obvious they have non-platonic feelings. Resting with that is totally fine, and ranting about Jikookers being wrong and idiots and so on for not slamming the “deny, deny, deny!” panic button is silly.

[mini-jiminie]

The first time I saw Jeon Jungkook, he was 18 years old, had purple hair and was sporting a police man outfit….

….I was blown away.

Now, we’re here celebrating his 28th birthday, 10 years later from that pivotal moment that changed my life (lol).

For all the hardships and challenges that the world seems to constantly throw his way, he always emerges even more humble, kind and compassionate. I hope he knows that he’s become every inch of the person he’s always aspired to be.

I say this every birthday but, I hope 28 treats you better<33

[beautifulpersonpeach]

RM has outgrown kpop, at least musically.

I will admit that I have not been an army for almost 3 years now and that mostly happened because I grew up, went to college and my music taste changed completely. When I say completely I mean completely. I don't listen to pop music anymore. I am listening to jazz, jazz funk, bossa nova, neo soul, indie electronica, and folk music these days. You will find artists like Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman, Astrud Gilberto, Tom Jobim, Stan Getz, D'Angelo, Aaliyah etc. and just more and more indie artists like Swans more in my playlist than The Weeknd or Dua Lipa. I think this change was inevitable for me because I always gravitated towards pop music that was influenced by these genres but now I am listening to those artists and genres themselves.

Needless to say I outgrew BTS's music but I still respect and like them as people so I occasionally keep up with them. More specifically RM and only RM after he released RPWP. I feel like I have found my member. I don't know in detail what is happening with him but I follow him on instagram and he sometimes posts tidbits about his life.

My opinion mainly stems from the fact that RPWP exists and I HOPE that it's not a one off. I just don't see how an artist can reconcile with releasing music like that as his solo project and then doing poppy fan songs as a group. Groups inherently have an expiration date on them. It happened with Jackson 5, Destiny's Child, Motown, Nsync, One Direction, Spice Girls, Fifth Harmony etc. It happened with kpop groups. It IS possible to prolong one's career as a group sure but it's rare. Groups mostly transfer to solo work and comeback sometimes on their anniversary and such.

I think the members want to work together for a long time and I 100% believe that but I don't really see a musical vision going forward. BTS's concept was youth and the natural course forward for them was always going to be individuation as they grew up in their own identities and their own tastes started taking priority. This is why Map of the Soul: 7 always felt like it was having an identity crisis to me. It was a project trying to highlight the individual tastes of all 7 members. This type of project is always ambitious and can go two ways. Either it results in something grand or it results in a mess. MOTS:7 according to me was a mess.

I don't see a way in which their future group projects wouldn't be a similar mess that basically showed musical compromise. Not to mention their company has other goals now.

In that case I wonder about RM. It's painfully obvious from his album and the fan reaction to his album that he isn't aiming for your usual pop or pop adjacent audience. He is making indie and alternative hip hop music and that means people who listen to those genres should listen to him. In that case how does one reconcile with RM of RPWP and RM of BTS? Is it possible to do so?

I feel like I am mostly projecting my tastes here. Some people simply don't have any problem in reconciling the two. They are far more open to pop music than I am but I just feel like juggling the two will affect his musicality in ways I don't enjoy and I think that would be sad. Releasing something unique and experimental takes your all. When you are also obliged to be a world superstar and your company and group brand's face it's a bit difficult.

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Hi @maplelore

"You will find artists like Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman, Astrud Gilberto, Tom Jobim, Stan Getz, D'Angelo, Aaliyah etc. and just more and more indie artists like Swans more in my playlist than The Weeknd or Dua Lipa. I think this change was inevitable for me because I always gravitated towards pop music that was influenced by these genres but now I am listening to those artists and genres themselves."

It's cool you've learned this about yourself.

Some of us can eat at McDonald's and SubliMotion though. Just saying. Some of us can do both, and enjoy it.

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"My opinion mainly stems from the fact that RPWP exists and I HOPE that it's not a one off."

I actually laughed reading the "HOPE" in all caps because, man, same. RPWP was incredible and I too hope we get more like it.

The question of whether or not Joon has outgrown k-pop is a debate I've been seeing among Joon biases since he dropped Mono in 2018. The collaborators he had on that album were indie artists (space and glitch-pop) which was definitely not typical for k-pop. But then, the very next year, he made Boy with Luv with BTS, which in my opinion is the first 'neo-disco bubblegum' Western pop project BTS did. It was the prototype for Dynamite, even down to the same pastel colour palette.

I'm not sure this is talked about anymore, but when Boy with Luv dropped, a part of the fandom that included some OT7 Joon biases went through a crisis. Nobody was prepared for a song like BWL from Joon, especially after the subject matter and sonic approaches he took in Mono. The only thing that kept the peace was the interpretation that that song was supposed to be the mirror to Boy in Luv, and that Dionysus and HOME were also on the same album.

But then, the year after that, in 2020, Joon dropped Respect with Yoongi in MOTS7. That song that is their most no frills, true-to-form old school hiphop track to date.

Six months later, RM released Dynamite with BTS...

My point is: Namjoon is elastic.

I'll spare you a rambling segue into the physics of elasticity as a metaphor on RM's musical excursions till now, but the gist is, he's so far been able to find some kind of balance between very poppy BTS projects, and creating space for his own crazy, sometimes darker and more mature personal projects.

The definitions of "strain", "stress", "loading limit", and "fatigue" in the physics context work just as well to describe the constraints Joon might experience musically and in his sense of self, but again, so I don't write 500 more words than I need to, I'll just say as much as we have concerns, only Namjoon really knows what he's willing and not willing to do. Only he knows how much he can and can't take. He might disappoint you, or not. I suggest you watch him to see, for as long as you're interested.

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"I think the members want to work together for a long time and I 100% believe that but I don't really see a musical vision going forward. BTS's concept was youth and the natural course forward for them was always going to be individuation as they grew up in their own identities and their own tastes started taking priority."

Lol how about we actually hear the album first? Your POV is understandable of course and I share some doubts myself but I also think it's a waste of time to engage in this kind of speculation.

We share similar concerns though. I have no idea what their music will sound like but that's less because in chapter 1 the concept was 'youth', and more because I have concerns about the abilities and priorities of their current team given the slow but now sure Scooterification of HYBE groups including BTS since 2019/2020, which ironically coincides with your comment about MOTS7.

By the way on that note, I don't think MOTS7 was "a mess". Granted the cohesion in that album was more thematic than auricular, but it still had a certain logic to it. You're right that in the spirit of trying to do something grand they might miss the mark, but then, so what?

I have no doubt the guys feel a great deal of pressure to deliver something truly incredible for their comeback album. They've been out of the game for a while, the scene has changed, and they possibly feel some pressure to prove themselves, maybe even to themselves.

In a way the stakes are higher... but again, if they bomb it, so what?

Joon will just continue working on his next project, whether solo or OT7 BTS or both. And that one might be better. Also, it's not like the fandom will allow their next album to bomb anyway. In fact, I am 100% certain BTS's next album will be their best-selling album yet, by orders of magnitude. It's one of the only reasons I've not pulled my money out of HYBE yet lmao.

Even if sonically, cerebrally, and critically Namjoon's next few projects with BTS are a failure, it might be disappointing, but he's already shown he can make something worthwhile. And after BTS's next album he'll be more than cashed up to take some legit daring risks if he wants to. The question of whether you'll be interested enough to stick around for that, is one only you can answer.

[theangryjikooker]

this is random, but why do you think so many people in the jikook community are so mean when you have an opinion that doesn't align with the majority? it doesn't feel like a nice community at all sometime, unless you follow a specific script.

Be prepared for a doozy because boy, do I have thoughts on this.

I think when it comes to any cultish community, naysayers are generally demonized. And just to be clear, any community that blindly devotes itself to an idea and ostracizes anyone who questions it is a cult.

I expect overzealous Jkkrs will be offended by this branding because they’re so used to slinging these barbs at Tkkrs (who can be absurdly obnoxious and evil in their own right), but they are one in essence.

It’s why I’ve always said that Jkkrs and Tkkrs are two sides of the same coin. Sure, one side takes it to unfathomable extremes, but Jkkrs aren’t too far behind either. I’ve said before that, comparatively, Tkkrs don’t bother me at all because they’re plainly nasty, and I expect it; Jkkrs, on the other hand, often insist they’re better and nicer people when all you have to do is push the right button and they go rabid just as easily.

When I was at my most active, and partly because I suspect everyone was also locked in during SIP and had nothing better to do, I received really heinous messages from Jkkrs because I didn’t think they were dating or could entertain the idea of it. That was literally it, and I received death threats for it. And the fact that that’s all it takes? It’s pathetic.

Being a Jkkr doesn’t have to mean you think they stick their dicks in each other. If you like Jkk as individuals, recognize their specific bond/friendship and appreciate how special it is that they have each other to rely on, you’re a Jkkr. And if you think they’re romantically involved or hope they are, that’s wonderful—as long as you’re capable of understanding that not everyone believes that.

Don’t even get me started on the big Jkkr accounts (on Twitter) who shit on TH just as badly as Tkkrs do with JM, but god forbid you point out the pot’s black too.

So I’ve said it from day one: “all” shippers are the same.

Obviously, I don’t mean every Jkkr are horrible people. Some are very reasonable and grounded in reality, and I not only follow profoundly entertaining, kind, and die-hard Jkkrs (on Twitter), but I’ve also been fortunate to have “met” some sweethearts on here who were 100% Supporters of Jkk and still recognized that my opinions were just that—an opinion. (And Jkkrs will refuse to believe so, but there have been really nice Tkkrs in my DMs too.)

[mini-jiminie]

oh jm…..why do the kindest, most gentle people have the worst type of evil directed at them

[batfiend]

family

[curio-queries]

I gotta say, on one hand it's extremely reassuring whenever I see a litany of posts in the feed complaining about whatever funk the current general fandom is in embroiled in. Reassuring because I rarely see any of the actual awful posts...Just the posts complaining about them. So I guess that means I've got my blocks/follows set correctly.

It makes me weary for those that are wading through all of the muck though. I've recently heard of more unpleasant words being targeted at some of those who chat with me and I hope y'all know that such behavior is not what most of us believe the members would endorse.

It also get me thinking about the overall state of our fandom and what this next comeback will be like... hang on, I need to share a video for y'all to get the analogy:

(Note, I'm not making any endorsement of any further content from this source other than the EXACT statement shared in the clip.)

So, obviously I'm not talking about a romantic relationship but the relationship within ARMY itself could definitely do with some work (I mean, it always could but the present always feels the most problematic).

In a few months, we're going to be gearing up for end of year activities and then shortly thereafter will be the spring comeback. If ARMY is going to expect united/close-knit/powerful fandom behavior then (voting, streaming, attendance) ...we gotta be investing in united/close-knit/powerful community building now. And constantly tearing eachother down for this viewpoint or that opinion just is not going to do it.

Idk, just philosophical thoughts from the sidelines...

Definitely don't risk your personal peace for the sake of arguments with strangers on the internet. It's never worth it.

[mini-jiminie]

clicked on the jikook tag for the first time in a while and it’s bonkers in here guys😍

an evil ‘ai edits’ acc, tkk truthers wilding out and jikook divorce allegations..

[mini-jiminie]

Alright, genuinely what’s up with these interactions that bts are having w/ problematic western artists??

First fuckass Charlie Puth and now Diplo?

I love the boys and I’m so excited for any new music but, I just have sigh wearily when I see the type of people they surround themselves with sometimes. And yes I say ‘they’ because you cannot convince me the company is forcing them to do anything atp.

They’re bts. When you’re this big of an artist and when you’re this influential, I’m expecting that they at least do some research when it comes to the people they work with (especially considering they’re shouting them out or mentioning them publicly).

I loved the range of people that collaborated with them on their solo music (ik jk worked with diplo before).

If anything, I hope that these Instagram mentions are simply just them hanging out with these people in their spare time (again, questionable associations).

Idk, this is a messy rant but just needed to get it off my chest.