Watched Iron Lung today and, without spoilers, I cannot recommend it enough. It was such a breath of fresh air, obviously made with so much love, and the theatre was filled with other people just as excited to watch it as I was. One of the best movie experiences I’ve had in years, just really freaking good.
(Also—there’s nothing quite like an entire theatre chuckling at a very Mark joke in the middle of a horror movie. We’ve all been trained watching him play horror games and I wouldn’t have it any other way)
This is a continuation of “Mummy” from my Risetober 2024! Feel free to check it out… my ability to draw the turtle tots has definitely improved since last year😆
Hey y'all, has anyone figured out a timeline for the Krang in ROTTMNT? I've been gathering facts from the show/movie, but I was curious if anyone had already figured this out.
I'm going to include all my notes under the cut, but My QUESTION is:
If the main Krang were sealed away 1000 years ago (as Raph says in the movie) does that mean that there were still Krang around to give Shredder his armour 500 years later? Or was Raph misinformed and the Krang were probably sealed around the same time as the Shredder, 500 or so years ago?
Edit: @pinkjunepeanut made a fantastic point in the comments! Basically she said that the Krang probably were sealed 1000 years ago, but contacted Oroku Saki from the Prison Dimension (likely via the Key). Go check out her comments if you want the full theory!
If you've got thoughts or answers, please share!
Please note I've made Edits to the original version of this post! I've indicated where :)
At this point I'm pretty sure that:
A Krang ship crashed at some point very early on (now within the Weeping Titan), allowing for Empyrean to create the Yokai. If we're following when Yokai entered our written records, that would have to be before 720 CE (so over 1300 years ago). (I'm specifically referencing the Nihon Shoki or Nihongi here).
A Krang (who kinda looks like Krang 3) gives Oroku Saki the Dark Armour, which eventually corrupts him and turns him into the Shredder. Karai seals them both in the Twilight Realm, but is released by the Turtles 500 years later (that's what she says, anyway). So it would have taken place in the Sengoku Period. Which makes a lot of sense, as this period started with the Ōnin War, and Karai refers to the Krang who gives her father the Dark Armour as an Ōnin. Probably not a coincidence on the writer's part.
The Krang were sealed within the Prison Dimension “many centuries ago”:
Raph specifically says 1000 years, which I believe would place the invasion in the Heian Period of Japan’s history. Due to the overlap of Yokai and Mystic powers, this probally would have had to have taken place AFTER the Krang in the Weeping Titan died. But I suppose it could be possible that specific Krang died in that battle, creating the Yokai later on, and we can ignore historical accounts of Yokai mythos within the ROTTMNT universe. But then we have the issue of WHO GAVE THE SHREDDER HIS ARMOUR?? Edit: As I mentioned above, Pinkjunepeanut offered a neat solution to this: the Krang were sealed 1000 years ago, later contacting Oroku Saki from the Prison Dimension, probably in a bid to get him to eventually free them.
If Raph was misinformed, and the Krang hadn’t been sealed for 1000 years, that changes things. Considering the Mystic Warriors seem to be wearing armour based more from the Edo period of Japan, 400-500 years would make more sense (I have more notes below). This would probably mean that the Krang were sealed in the Prison Dimension AFTER the Shredder was sealed in the Twilight Realm, so they could be around to give him the Dark Armour in the first place.
Notes on the Mystic Warriors armour:
So this is the picture we have of the Mystic Warriors that sealed the Krang ^
I THINK they're wearing (from left to right) a Kutsune Mask (mainly seen in the Edo Period, but also, to a lesser extent, in the Heian period), a Dō-maru kabuto (also appeared in the Heian period, but was also common in the Edo Period), a hitai-ate (Edo period) and Chronmage hairstyle (Edo period again), and finally another hitai-ate or maybe a Hachimaki (Sengoku period, but also later on). (Please note that this is all me doing some cursory research online, so I could very well be incorrect or misinformed).
All of this makes me think they were learning towards the Edo Period in the designs (this also could have been influenced by ninja themed anime, like Naruto). However, there is a fair amount of overlap with the Sengoku period, which is when Karai is likely from. This wouldn’t change a lot, just how long it was between Karai’s first interaction with the Krang and them eventually being sealed by the Mystic Warriors.
Edit: While I believe (again, this is based off my brief research) all their attire overlapped the most during the Edo or Sengoku periods, if we assume they sealed the Krang 1000 years ago (during the Heian Period) then most of this can be chalked up to creative decisions. I mentioned above that it's likely the show took influence from existing media focused around ninja's, so their blend attire from different eras can easily be explained away by that. Pinkjunepeanut's theory also answers a question I didn't bring up: the fact that none of them are wearing a recognizable emblem. If they were a part of the Hamato (or Foot) clan, then those symbols definitely would have been incorporated into the designs.
Anyway, all of this to say, does the timeline look something like this?
Krang scout (?) ship visits earth, crashes, accidentally creates Yokai and probably mystic powers with Empyrean.
500-800ish years later, more Krang appear and basically make the Shredder, forcing Karai to seal herself and her father in the Twilight Realm. This creates the Foot who worship the Krang and the Hamato's who work to prevent the Shredder's return.
Sometime in the next 100 years, the Krang attempt a full invasion of Earth, prompting the four mystic warriors (Hamatos? probably.) to seal them within the Prison Dimension (which appears similar to the Twilight Realm, as @pinkjunepeanut pointed out to me, and can also be accessed by a mystic warrior [Draxum gets them into the Twilight Realm, Mikey to the Prison Dimension]).
400ish years later, the Movie happens.
If this is wrong and the Krang were sealed 1000 years ago, it would mean that a different Krang gave the Shredder his armour. While that could be interesting (as that means there's more Krang kicking about), I think this was more akin to the "Hammer and Anvil" Strategy. Basically, the Krang probably sent a small force to weaken Earth or corrupt it to their ways (as seen with the armour corrupting Oroku Saki and the Shredder's later goals, ie. the conquest of humanity), before attacking with a greater force later on (this could have been a decade to a century later). However, this didn’t go to planned as they were sealed away by the Mystic Warriors (who they likely accidentally created with Empyrean in the first place... LOL).
Edit: It could also look like this...
Krang scout (?) ship visits earth, crashes, accidentally creates Yokai and probably mystic powers with Empyrean. This would have to be, at minimum, 1300 years ago (but was probably a lot earlier than even that).
1000 year ago, so during the Heian Period, the Krang attempt to invade Earth. They're stopped by the four Mystic Warriors and sealed in the Prison Dimension with the Key.
A little under 500 years later, the Foot Clan, led by Oroku Saki, is under attack and he makes a deal with a mysterious "Ōnin" (the Krang in the Prison Dimension) for the armour that eventually corrupts him and turns him into the Shredder. His daughter, Karai, created the Hamato Clan in response and eventually seals both herself and the Shredder in the Twilight Realm.
500 years later, the Turtles accidentally release the Shredder but then defeat him and reunite a no longer corrupt Oroku Saki with Karai.
3 (ish) years later, the Foot (who still worship the Krang who gave their founder the Dark Armour) release the Krang with the Key, and the Movie happens.
Honestly, I think this timeline fits better than my first, but I decided to keep the original as I don't like doing major revisions to post's after posting them. We show our work here😂
I know I'm probably making this more complicated than it needs to be, as there's no guarantee the writers worried too much about making it historically accurate. But, as I'm currently in the middle of a fic that's dealing with the Krang, I want to finalize my timeline LOL. Also, I'm sure I'm not the only person who's tried to figure this out, so if you have the answers PLEASE SHARE! I could be missing something obvious that answers all my question, and (if it wasn't obvious by this essay of a post) I love finding out more about the show.
Hi me again, last time I asked about your drawing abilities now I'm asking about your writing one. So same question where or how did you learn to write so well? Or was it just a god given talent?? 😭 I swear your witty dialogue and heartfelt moments will be the death of me
Hello again! (((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
That’s actually an easy answer, I’ve been actively writing stories for 10 years now! I have mountains of OCs and half finished works sitting on my computer. I’ve just… never shared any of it until now😅
I started writing as a way to manage my anxiety, and so it’s become a habit to pull out my phone and write scenes when I’m in between doing things. I only started writing fan fiction recently, but I’ve really enjoyed immersing myself in someone else’s world and characters! ROTTMNT in particular is just so FUN!
I honestly think they should teach writing fan fiction in schools. It’s a great way to explore creative writing AND your favourite things!
Anyway, thank you again for your lovely message! To sum it up, it’s literally just been a lot of practice! (And a lot of reading, I have so many books). I’m glad you’re enjoying New Normal!
The past few days have sucked, to put it lightly. My cats know I’m upset and keep requesting cuddles, so I thought I’d draw it. Mikey’s not the only one who needs an ice cream kitty!
Take care of yourselves everyone❤️🧡💙💜
(Ps. One day I’ll figure out how to draw cats in Rise’s style I swear😅😂)
Where or how did you learn to draw?? You're so good at it 😭
Aww thank you!! I'm mostly self-taught, so it's been a lot of trial and error. I started with realism before going stylized, and I still draw mostly still life, especially pet portraits, in my free time! I'm honestly still pretty new to digital art.
When I first watched ROTTMNT, I fell in love with its bright, colourful art style and attention to detail. It’s one of the few shows that's held my full attention LOL. I ended up redrawing a lot of screenshots, which helped me learn a LOT (legit finally understood how line art worked thanks to this)! Eventually I felt comfortable making fan-art, mostly thanks to the Risetober challenge. And SO many silly doodles in my class notes.
I've never been good at putting HOW I learned these things into words, sorry! BUT I'll include some more detailed stuff under the cut if anyone is interested. Honestly, drawing Rise makes me insanely happy, and I think that helps more than anything else!😂
Thank you so much!!
If you're curious what I use to make my stuff, I use Procreate and Procreate Dreams on the iPad.
I always start with a quick 'pencil' sketch, which I then do a rough inking over (I generally either use the inking brush Mercury or Baskerville for this). Once this looks good, I go over and do a final line art with the inking brush Baskerville. It has a pretty intense stabilizer, so it takes some getting used to, but it'll keep the lines smooth! Then I colour in everything (I have saved colour palettes for each of the turtles, which makes this step WAY faster), and shade (again with Baskerville). I'm sure better brushes exist out there, but these all come with the base app and they're what I've use for everything thus far😅
A really good website I've found for learning how to draw figures and proportions is called Line of Action! One of it's most interesting features (at least for me) is it's timed classes, which basically gives you 30 seconds to 10 minutes to draw a person. This helps you to learn how to quickly block out a pose, which is really handy when drawing.
Also, because I did mention class doodles, here is one of my first ever bits of Rise fan-art (drawn during a very boring lecture).
Can confirm. Go read @lasanya539's fic, make this heart beat on and on. It's phenomenal. It totally changed how I look at Ghost Story and gave it so much more meaning.
A quick drawing based off the newest chapter of my ROTTMNT fic: New Normal! Leo get's a battle shell! I wonder what for? o.O
If you're curious, I've included the AO3 link below!
New Normal (36247 words) by RavenTrinkets
Chapters: 31/?
Summary:
After the events of the Krang invasion, New York has managed to move on. For the most part. But a certain government agency has begun to ask questions about the near-apocalypse that the Turtles would rather remain unanswered. Shenanigans ensue.
Well, that’s it folks! I’m done Risetober! I honestly cannot believe I managed to make it to the end, this is the most I’ve drawn in years. Thank you to everyone who has interacted with me this month, y’all are amazing❤️🧡💙💜
Special thanks to @sariphantom! I don’t remember how I found your list, but I’m so glad I did! This has been so much fun!! I’ve loved seeing what everyone else has come up with for the prompts.