[S] ACT 5 ACT 2 ==> to John and Dave: Respond to memo.
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As I said in a previous post, Karkat, after viewing John’s life through the spectative lens of Trollian’s time travel view port, finds himself utterly smitten over the absolutely deplorable John Egbert. When John gets hurt, Dad egbert is there to nurse away the booboos. Dad Egbert plays with him, loving spending time with his son, whether it’s baking, playing piano or playing pranks on eachother. He gets him gifts that show that he supports and is aware of his interests. Dad Egbert isn’t even vindictive nor expresses the slightest blame on John for the death of Nanna. John has a great homelife, he grew up in an environment were he allowed to be his genuine self, with a supportive loving father. Karkat can’t help but hate his “easy” upbringing, so far from what a troll faces when they grow up, lacking all the trials and violent feats a troll must face to survive, he’s allowed to just have fun and be apologetically himself, and for this, Karkat lands himself being pitched for John.
Anywho! I love this flash, the loading sequence going from Sgrub to Sburb is a nice touch. This flash is a great start to this act ( within an act ) going from trolls back to humans by Karkat watching John. It serves as backstory for Karkat’s hate aswell as just backstory for John. I also love the touching music they put to this flash, I find any song that name drops the title of the medium always makes me emotional, so the track “HOMESTUCK” really does it for me, another great example of this is “UNDERTALE” from well, Undertale!
Karkat: Troll this worthless human.
FUCK YES. IT’S FINALLY HERE. Look how excited John is!! The full force hate ridden Karkat rant is finally here.
I love this line so much. It’s so passionate and poetic, exactly what you can expect from a fully riled up Karkat. How romantic is a cosmic love written in the stars you made for someone? Oh Karkat how I love you.
The dorks are fighting again!!!! This was an audio I heard ALOT as an early fan, so it’s pretty much engraved in my head, they’re one hundred percent absolutely adorable, just really good lines in here!
Karkat and Terezi get so childish with eachother and it’s SO fun to read, either flushed giddiness or pitched arguing.
The panel of Vriska watching John is so pretty, Vriska’s look of aggravation yet intrigue at a peacefully sleeping John. I can’t wait for their slowburn. Spider8reath is my favorite homestuck ship btw, I just find them very interesting!
As i said in a previous post, John always gets heartbreakling close to his aspirations, such a saving Jade or reuniting with his father, John always gets dealt a deck of the world’s most poetically tragic rug pulls and shitty circumstances that aren’t any fault of his own.
Mom Lalonde’s sympathetic gesture of sharing a drink, her most effective coping mechanism, is very ( bitter ) sweet at this moment. The detail of the sights in the skies being Rose’s land when we look at Mom is a nice touch.
Aswell as in a couple panels back we see a sneak peak of Jade entering her land!
So this is where June came from! It would be sweet if the name that sparked from her first conversion with Vriska stuck with her, trans girl solidarity! :33
Vriska giving John her roleplay name upon being asked is adorable, even more so is John’s reaction of disbelief but immediate accommodation, what a gentleman!
Another one of my favorite spider8reath lines.
Also a note here, in case I don't remember this comparison later on, San’s redemption monologue in Undertale has the slightest resemblance to Vriska’s. They both in some way or another pose the question, is redemption possible, even for the most condemned sinners?
Vriska and John have few things alike, yet those are strong aspects of them! Such as genuine heroism aswell as other things such as movie taste. Yet they have important differences that separate the two in morals and beliefs. And these lines are a great showcase/example of them!
I wonder if Vriska’s dramatic display of distaste for John’s earth movies is disingenuous? Also John is so accommodating for the trolls, such as translating his movie titles for Vriska, he’s such a gentlemen it’s adorable.
The upward shot of John's house towering up is simple yet very pretty panel. I love complex creative shots like these, so cool!!!!
The writing on the wall’s for the Beta kids failure most likely being the code they subconsciously wrote on the walls is a very cool foreshadowing bit from Rose!
Rose is ominous and brief, as John refers to it “spookily mysterious”. She is this way in this point of time because this one of her biggest lows in her arc, she has isolated herself deep into destruction and the whispers of the horror terrors, which are gradually becoming clearer. It’s a parallel to Aradia in a way, the difference is that Rose will have a much easier time in overcoming this veil of darkness clouding her vision. ( Courtesy of being a light player. )
The Friend Leader Pesterlog! :B
( I also find the copying of lines the kids do, John’s “pff laaaaaaaame” copying Vriska’s, even down to the 8 A’s, whether it’s subconscious or consciously very cute. I find myself doing this in my conversations aswell, it makes them more authetnitic I believe. )
I love more stylistic panels such as this, ESPECIALLY action shots
Rose is quickly accustomed to Kanaya’s mannerisms which I find endearing, even if in this state, she doesn’t have the nicest tone to it.
I enjoy how the familiar duos talk to eachother, they all talk in this genuine way that is solely unique to them. Examples such as Rose and Dave, John and Jade, aswell as these cute lines from Karkat and Kanaya.
Another Karkat and John parallel, and in turn, a Rose and Kanaya parallel! I find John’s iterations of these bits much more endearing, Karkat finds a way to sour the bit with his own hubris and pride if that makes sense.
The “FLIGHTY BROADS AND THEIR SNARKY HORSESHITOMETER” is a very cool play on John’s ( and co’s ) Trickster's Gambit. Lines that hint at the very least Kanaya’s curiosity on Rose are very fun, her asking Karkat if Rose really had intentions of harming the trolls and their session, in a futile hope in Rose, whom she admires so. Aswell as her alien infatuation with her, such as being surprised at her lack in horns and lines expressing her desire to look at Rose. The witty broads combat in fields of intellect and snark is just really cute, all of these factors are exemplified with lines like “The FLIGHTY BROADS AND THEIR SNARKY HORSESHITOMETER ticks a few notches in her favor. Your aggravation and curiosity are simultaneously piqued. You wish you could get a look at her.”
“The horseshitometer swings back to her side / You win this round, Lalonde.” BLUH what a dork!! Kanaya getting invested in a rivalry with Rose that she isn’t even aware about yet is beating Kanaya at is adorable.
John and his noble feat of unknowingly trying to undo his feat of setting lesbains back by a few years.
The word maddening is used numerous times in Homestuck, i most closely link it with Kanaya however, it is mostly used in reference to her relations with Rose. Kanaya finds Rose maddening, how she is able to match her in prominent ways, such as intellect, humorously and personally. It’s all utterly maddening.
Kanaya has an affinity for bright things. ( it is apart of her counterculture aspects to Alternian which I very much enjoy. ) And lucky for her, Rose is the brightest there is. In numerous ways.
OMG WINTER ROSE LOOKS SO ADORABLE?? And Kanaya thinks so too!! Augh I love these pages, RoseMary galore.
I love Kanaya influenced narration, all of her writing is so poetic and romantic. “She has been toying with you all along. Oh, the curiosity. How it persists. The maddening, maddening curiosity.” The urge to draw more RoseKan is strong.
That moment when your when your girlcrush destroys the obvious gateway to entry to the next step of complementing her quest for seemingly no fucking reason at all besides she felt like it.
Kanaya: Have eighth conversation.
IT’S HERE. John and Rose both have awaited conversations with their patron trolls that were foreshadowed by their patron trolls. This is it for Rose! I wonder, If Rose is simply curious of Kanaya’s Name, and trolls as a whole in order of addressing them in a polite informal manner or in a way that she can more easily communicate about them to the furthest ring, enacting some sort of spell or ritual.
GUHHH THEY ARE SO CUTE I’M KILLING THEM.
“EB: i am the wind waker. it's me.
AG: I know you are, John.”
BREATH ASPECT MENTION!!! I wonder what her opinion on the aspect? I know she’s not a fan of pages of course, but breath is a pretty lucrative aspect and I'm pretty sure she's aware of that too!
I find Rose's assumption of Kanaya being a Derse dreamer intriguing. In matters of what defines a Prospit dreamer vs a Derse dreamer. I am still an amateur in terms of the Moons, I do not fully understand the classifications of what differentiates the dreamers.
Kanaya states that she does not trust the dark forces of those in the furthest rings, those that would eschew skaia’s light. I find this contrast in Kanaya and Rose very fun aswell as interesting. Their connections to light and dark, being represented as Prospit vs Derese, have many similarities, in this regard, their affinity towards light and brightness. I like that Rose’s light is dimmed during her descent into the dark forces of the furthest ring, through mental clouding, darkening her outlook aswell as wearing darker clothes, her descent into grimdarkness darkens every aspect of her, which I find very very interesting.
“GA: I Think You Might Be Dangerous”
Kanaya calling Rose dangerous, besides the obvious connotation of this line, is in a way a call back to Kanaya’s perception of Vriska, and therefore her “girlcrush” on her, which Kanaya now has her eyes set on Rose, even if not pale and if not as hard, YET. Kanaya still is starting to meddle, and Rose of course, can’t help but play along.
Kanaya trying to steer Rose from her brash destructive tendencies by trying to set her mind on more relaxing playful activities, such as playing dressup, Kanaya already having sketched out outfits for Rose ( frist of all i am dying to see what they look like aswell as her artstyle oh my FUCKING god???? Do you think she would draw Rose in the outfits aswell posing all smug or just a simple manicanequin? ) Imagine a timeline where Rose for some reason took this opportunity? New MSPFA minicomic idea that’s all i’m saying!
Kanaya is over frivolous pale endeavors, she has wasted her time on smart girls such as Rose before, and therefore once she is conscious of her meddling, rejects the action of pacifying Rose. Rose inturn follows up this with a playful disappointment that will Kanaya no longer play along, Rose, even if somewhere deep inside is being a little genuine, can’t help playing along with a good bit.
In Vriska’s impatience she makes a mistake in her larping-esque typing quirk ways, using 9 exclamation marks instead of 8.
People forget that despite everything Vriska has humanity. I find her so adorable like are you kidding me. Precious.
I would totally max out the images I'm allowed to post on tumblr per post if i screenshotted everytime John used 8’s for Vriska but it’s just so cute, and Vriska grows slowly fonder of him each time, ack!!!!!!!!
“EB: thanks for all the help. bye, ms. serket!
AG: Ok. Til next time, Mr. Anderson.
John’s stupid giggling after ever successfully prank he pulls will never not make me smile.
Oh Mr. Strider the Gentlemen you are!
“TG: egbert stfu and give me your goddamn boonbuck j3gus fuck
TG: ill turn it into a boonmint in an hour and youll get it back ok
EB: *narrows eyes suspiciously...*
The boys are neck deep in troll girl’s mind games!!!! Gosh they’re adorable.
Dave: Make a goddamn killing in the LOHACSE.
Also if i haven’t mentioned before I love the whole dave investing in LOHAC stock exchange via time shenanigans is a really fun concept I enjoy ALOT. Dave aswell as all the kids are still pretty young, so this is his first source of income and he goes deep into the shit, it's just so fun and so in character for Dave. Aswell as Terezi’s help on the whole shenanigans, so so cool.
Dave wearing Terezi’s shades??? C’mon that's just plain adorable.
TEREZI’S ART IS ACTUALLY GETTING SO GOOD??? Her use of colors along with expressions makes the whole thing just so good. Also her scribbling out Karkat is comedy gold.
How did Dave not make the connection that 413 is John’s birthday? All the same though good on him for even realizing the pattern.
This whole memo is full of references, to 4/13 to 6/12 aswell as in smaller amounts the blind prophets. I think the tie of John and Terezi to 413 is very cool aswell as very cute.
Dead daves are the enemy!!!!
This comic is so fucking beautiful. Put this shit in The Louvre RIGHT NOW.
Besides Equius being a freak here, look at Gamzee’s open eyes he looks so dumb omg. /pos.
Besides the silly sbahj call back, Tavros and Equius’s interactions specifically on this topic, are very intriguing to me. Imagine if Equius had the same infatuation with Tavros as he did Aradia, I believe Equius would have more decorum with Tavros, so issues of agency won’t be as prominent of an issue as they were with Equius’s handling of Aradia. Even if not romantic, I find their hypothetical friendship or at very least compilation ship over the course of getting Tavros used to his legs sweet to think about.
Terezi’s eyes are so pretty. :(
Ok I understand that Feferi would be congregating around Sollux, but why is Vriska looming over Terezi? To snoop on her next 8ig plans or just because she wants to be around Terezi Lmao.
Sollux gets bitches in 2FOLD!!
BABY DAVE SHENANIGANS!!!!
I wonder if Bro found feeding Dave as too much of a parental task, so he let Cal do so, finding it an ironic loophole. Also baby Dave flash stepping abilities are about as adorable as it gets.
Giving your literal baby a sword at the ripe age of too fucking young is a completely rational and normal parental decision courtesy of none other than Bro Strider.
AUGH! Terezi being protective over being Dave’s patron troll is adorable.
One of if not my favorite DaveRezi Pesterlogs!
Aswell as in general this Pesterlog is littered with good bits.
Terezi: Troll this awesome coolkid.
Dave is trolling Terezi full force, bits such as saying he’s a girl, lying about his species, aswell as his name TWICE, it’s pure Strider word vomit and it’s glorious. Terezi’s cultural differences which just end up trolling Dave back when she’s earnestly trying to get to know Dave and humans in general. Lines like saying she’s Six and that she doesn’t know what parents are, it’s so good.
Terezi is a master of manipulation, she has a way of getting people to open up, through their own volition no less, this is also impart of because she’s a Mind player! Dave tells Terezi that he’s not happy with his artwork, it’s just an impression of his bro’s work and that he needs to individualize more. ( which is a train of thought brought on by John’s considerate thinking, what a sweetie! ) Terezi understands this right away and knows just how to help. Dave hides shit so deep inside he forgets himself, Terezi tries to help him become more aware of the hidden truth, telling him to describe his “Mindspace” which just is Lil Cal. Hussie either was influenced by how he got used to writing Dave, in his present fear of Lil Cal or either Little Dave was still okay with expressing his fear of Cal, before hiding it away aswell in an act to cope with his fear. Despite Terezi’s help, Dave is discouraged after seeing Lil Cal and promptly drops this line of thought.
Terezi being the reason SBAHJ is the beautiful masterpiece it is in a backwards sort of way is really really fun.
OH YEAH THE DAVEKARREZI-ADJACENT SHENANIGANS ARE IN FULL FORCE!!!! I enjoy Dave’s childish “oh is he your boyfriend” jokes as always, aswell as Terezi's comparison of Dave and Karkat! Which I agree on very much :3 I believe Karkat and Dave end up working so well together because of how similar they are, which is also the exact reason they clash!
Complete dorks in the coolest ways. <3
The transition of Terezi trolling a little Dave making a bit of him crying, to him actively crying in the future is peak. Oh my god I'm so ready for these shenanigans.
“TG: our memes can cancel each other out this time”
Oh wow the call backs are in full force. Terezi using Dave’s I warned you about the stairs bit as well as flying off the handle to mock him is just perfect. Dave’s embarrassed rejectance at the notion that he is genuinely crying is also really fun.
“TG: there now i won't be satisfying your crazy red fetish either
GC: NOW 1 4M CRY1NG TOO YOU S33 WH4T YOU D1D”
OMGD4ANC3P4RTY Is my favorite “H3Y COO1 K1d 1S TH1IS YOU?” drawing btw.
The beta lands are so pretty. Dave’s land feels so intense and vast. Shit’s so cool.
THE FACT THAT DAVE PRACTICALLY JUST ASKED TEREZI IF TROLL IS HAVING SEX WITH A BABY IN A BUCKET. IS CRAZY IN HINDSIGHT LMFAO???
AHH! The nickname T-Z has finally been used :D! I love calling Terezi T-Z and also Terepi but I think I might have just came up with that stupid one myself.
Dave and Karkat’s first conversion! ( This is all just ramblings based of inferences and my poor memory btw. ) Karkat and Dave have an immediate distaste for eachother. They find eachother to be pretentious douchebags at best, I doubt either of them put much thought into the other though, through genuinely not caring and with the addition of Karkat’s spite, they generally don’t find eachother worth their time. Dave is the only human Karkat doesn’t go out of his way to troll. He said himself he took notes on all the kids and their mannerisms, yet he has not said a word about Dave. He probably in some fashion regards him as unimportant, seeing his nonchalance as an obvious coverup for his insecurity and he in turn finds that aggravating. I believe Karkat dislikes Dave in a purely platonic way, I don’t think he bothers enough with Dave to even hate him.
[S] Vriska: Watch street tough mavericks with nothing to lose.
Vriska can help but fall for the appeal of a rugged sweaty Nic Cage. Vriska’s little heart eyes, with all her 8 eyes? ADORABLE!! John totally has a mancrush on Cage too let’s not kid ourselves, joking of course sorry to all the male egos I just broke.
Karkat’s handwriting is so shitty I fucking love it. Of course that asshole would use the thinnest pen imaginable.
TG: luring me into your cyber boobytrap with shitty clip art who told you my weakness
CG: IT'LL WORK, WON'T IT?
John and Dave: Respond to memo.
This is one of my favorite Pesterlogs. Ever. Btw.
“?CG: SO DAVE, TRY TO KEEP ALL THOSE SICK FIRES CHECKED AND THOSE STOIC LIPS PURSED FOR A GOD DAMNED SECOND” Karkat so perfectly sums up Dave, in a mocking tone, JohnDaveKat will always be a great trio to watch.
Karkat rounding up all of Terezi’s fleeting flings and telling them to back off is so silly and cute and childish? They immediately call him out, then it unravels into a interspecies hitting on eachother party ( sorry that’s all i got, i’m sleepy give me a break. )
“?CG: SO DAVE, TRY TO KEEP ALL THOSE SICK FIRES CHECKED AND THOSE STOIC LIPS PURSED FOR A GOD DAMNED SECOND” I love how Karkat describes Dave, without even insulting flavor text, he finds Dave’s facade insulting in itself, so just stating the cold hard facts is insult enough.
?CG: YOU JACKASSES HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELVES INTO.
?CG: THEY'RE DANGEROUS, AND YOU'RE JUST BLUNDERING RIGHT INTO THEIR HYPERCOMPETITIVE MINDFUCK MURDER-THICKET.
?CG: THESE PSYCHO GIRLS HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN EACH OF YOU KILLED AT LEAST ONCE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.”
Karkat spotting Vriska’s mannerisms rubbing off on John! As I said, the boys are neck deep in Troll Girl mind games and Karkat’s shutting that shit DOWN. Albeit in the worst blunt way he could possibly go about, that's Karkat for you.
“CTG: sounds like a loudmouth inferiority thing going on here to me” Dave inturn immediately clocks Karkat’s deal, Karkat and Dave have eachother completely pegged.
“?CG: ARE WE FEELING JUST A LITTLE BIT WISER? DID WE GROW TODAY? THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL!” I can just envision Karkat saying this perfectly. His shoulders are tense, high above his head, he’s all boxed up posture wise, he speaks through a gritted smile and squinted eyes, each word exaggerated makes his eyes bulge out a little more, his hands gesturing for emphasis. Karkat is alot of things Dave is not, I like to think Karkat is VERY expressive physically, as much as he is verbally.
“CTG: see how i look right now thats a poker face might want to take some notes
?CG: I SEE NOTHING BUT A COWARD BEHIND DARK EYEWEAR CLEARLY DESIGNED FOR WOMEN AND A PAIR OF IMPUDENT LIPS PURSED SO TIGHT IT'LL SOUND LIKE AIR SQUEALING OUT OF A BALLOON WHEN I PUNCH YOU IN THE GUT.”
What can i say, they’ve got eachother completely pegged.
Oh my god the shipping chart is coming.
Oh my god it’s perfect. Karkat specifying what quadrant, being so smug about it, their faces IT’S ALL SOOOO GOOD.
( Sorry if this post is a little all over the place! i totally maxed out the image in a post so sorry it it's a little messy! :B )